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Turkey: Nearing normalization of ties with Israel
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Published: 10.02.14, 10:01
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1. Insanity.
Bunnie Meyer ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (02.10.14)
2. Ties between Turkey and Israel are very important!
Michael Redbourn ,   Lisbon Portugal   (02.10.14)
3. Compensations for victims ?
Arn. ,   Sweden.   (02.10.14)
What is this ? Do Israel believe, Money can compensate for Murder ? If Israel is without guilt,, who She are, why ompensation. Israel has become a Sucker !. Disgusting !. Arn.
4. NO!!!!
John ,   Herzliya   (02.10.14)
Don't pay. A bunch of terrorists attacks your soldiers and you pay them. Are you crazy? What kind of message is this? Terror pays?
5. Israel-Turkish ties deteriorated a lot earlier than the MM
Zvi   (02.10.14)
incident, due to Erdogan's hateful support of Hamas terrorists and other anti-Israel and anti-Jewish activities.
6. 3
anton ,   istanbul   (02.10.14)
incase of mavimarmara which has been medias milking cow for years n israel is not only guilty part turkey is at fault too these compensation talks is nothin but face saving opportunity for both country,stuation in syria in particular drives them to work together at least brings out the desire, even lieberman keeps his mouth shut now dont feel bad that israel is paying money to turkey its a mean to find middle ground who knows maybe behind the doors no money will be paid whats important it how it looks like in media and enough with mavi marmara already regards
7. et tu Erdogan?
(02.10.14)
When Iran became dominant and Obama dumped them, the Saudis started sending out feelers to Israel. When youth (18-52) unemployment in Spain hit 58%, the Spanish announced amnesty to the Jews who fled in 1492. Erdogan, who sent IHH terrorists to support Hamas and then demanded that Shayetet apologize and pay damages to the terrorists, suddenly wants to normalize ties with Israel. I am sure that this has nothing to do with the collapse of the Turkish Lira just three weeks ago.
8. Trust Erdogan as you can trust a snake
(02.10.14)
9. It's all about the gas...
Robert ,   USA   (02.10.14)
With huge gas and oil finds in Israel's waters, Turkey wants "normalization" so it can participate in the gas pipelines etc. Israel is now a "player" in the energy supply for Europe, and this will keep Israel from being as isolated as it otherwise would have been..
10. It's already off the Turkish papers
Mira ,   Vienna   (02.10.14)
so this seems to be hot air.
11. Anton
David Israel ,   New York, USA   (02.10.14)
Good post. I agree in general. I must also add that, these days (before the mayoral elections) Erdogan having lost the little trust that USA and EU had for him and Israel going through her hard times with dealing with USA it may just be a way to get on President Obama's favorite list and nothing may come of this.
12. israel is not our enemy
dogan ,   istanbul-turkey   (02.10.14)
turkish people not seen israel people and jewish community as enemy.we respect jews in Turkey. Turkey anger is due to israilian politician and their cruel behavior against to innocent palestinians.
13. "Innocent Palestinians"?
Mira ,   Vioenna   (02.10.14)
Guy, you don't know what you are talking about. Either you do not read papers or only your Islamist government ones. Get real, guy!
14. David
anton ,   istanbul   (02.10.14)
regeardless of third parties which maybe true its high time nomore energy spent on this subject we have bigger fishes to fry and i would be priceless to see erdogan and netanyahu or davutoglu and liebermans kiss on cheeks either in tel aviv or ankara btw did u like erdoğan gone psyco on cemaat? its really amusing to see him and gulen curse eachother :)
15. #12
Yoni Melamed ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (02.10.14)
Dogan - why so one-sided? At least Israel attempts to target terrorists. Turkey regularly murders innocent Kurdish woman and children. Wake up and smell the Turkish coffee!!!
16. To: No. 6
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (02.10.14)
Israel doesn't need to "save face." Only Turkey does. Israel acted to prevent a breach of its fully legal and internationally recognized blockade of Gaza. Turkey allowed a vessel to sail from its port; a vessel which, despite its claims to be carrying "humanitarian aid" to Gaza, was found to be carrying nothing more than a couple of cartons of expired over-the-counter medication and a handful of mouldy blankets. The vessel did, needless to say, carry a bunch of terrorists on board; terrorists which ignored Israel's demand to cease and desist. That is why those terrorists ended up dead. It could have gone much, much worse. The Palmer Report took great pains to point out that Israel let the MAVI MARMARA off easy, and that Turkey was partly culpable because it allowed the MAVI MARMARA to be victualed and fueled at a Turkish port, even though Turkey was fully aware of the questionable nature of the vessel and the fact that Turkey knew that the MAVI MARMARA intended to breach a fully legal and internationally recognized blockade. And I really must add that if Turkey's feelings are that sensitive, it has no business being in the nation-state game. The fact remains that Turkey was at fault, and everyone knows it. If Turkey really wants to save face, they should do so at their expense; not Israel's. And no, Anton, you cannot have any of Israel's vast stores of natural gas and petroleum. Perhaps Turkey's great good friend Iran will help you out there -- because they are oh-so-considerate about Turkey's feelings with respect to Syria .... Speaking of, why is Turkey remaining so silent about Iran's meddling in Syria?
17. To: Robert at No. 9
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (02.10.14)
I mostly agree with your point. Yes, Israel's vast stores of natural gas and petroleum are of great importance, but even without it, Israel would not be isolated. There are reasons for needing Israel which far outstrip energy supply. But the last thing on earth Israel needs is a stamp of approval from Europe. Israel doesn't need Europe nearly as much as Europe needs Israel. What's more, Europe knows it ... they're just having difficulty accepting this as fact. They're used to docile Jews. Israel is not docile.
18. To: No. 12
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (02.10.14)
Oh, please. A whole lot less cruel than what the Turks did to Armenians and what they continue to do to Kurds. Who the hell are you to lecture us?
19. To: No. 14
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (02.10.14)
Turkey certainly does have bigger fish to fry. Remember a few months ago I told you that Turkey's economy was circling the bowl, and you laughed? Are you still laughing? How's the Turkish lira doing this morning, ace? (I know the answer to that question, by the way.) Turkey's economy is sinking fast, and it is taking Erdogan with it. No wonder he's trying to save face by dragging out the old dead-and-buried MAVI MARMARA. What do you want to bet that he will not be very happy if Israel pays off the Turkish families demanding redress for their dead terrorists in lira? What do you want to bet that Israel will do precisely that? We don't mind spending worthless currency! Of course, banks offering higher rates isn't going to help the Turkish economy. Turkey's trying to staunch massive blood loss with a bandaid. Long-term, it isn't going to work, of course. I don't think that the Turkish lira is salvageable.
20. Nr 3.
Arn. ,   Sweden.   (02.10.14)
How much must Turkey pay in compenstion to Armenia and the armenians ?. Turkey will pay nothing, so She will have to pay with Her Blood. Turkey is a Looser, and nobody should have anything to do with Her, She has no Rightousness whatsoever. Arn.Sweden.
21. #12 Dogan Kardes
David Israel ,   New York, USA   (02.10.14)
You talk about the innocent Palestinians in your post. Please google these names 'Dorit Benisian' and 'Yuval Abebeh' find out who these people are and what happened to them. You may learn something. Remember there is always 2 sides to each story. As par as Palestinians: Jews are as much Palestinian as Arabs. Jews have been living in the land called Palestine for over 3 thousand years which includes the 300 + years when it was occupied by the Ottoman empire. The property records from that era is in the possession of the Turkish Archives that proves that.
22. Not with Erdogan at the helm
Koose E Mack ,   NY USA   (02.10.14)
Normalization between the two countries in not feasible when Turkey has an Islamo Fascist Dictator leader. If their is a regime change, then we can talk. The Turkish People are not our enemies...just the current leadership. When Erdogan is out, the region will be a better place for all.
23. #14 Anton
David israel ,   New York, USA   (02.10.14)
I say ' Al birini vur otekine'. Unfortunately it will not change anything. The 50% of Turkish population are happy with the AKP stealing from them. The other 50 % is split to several parties therefore no hope in sight.
24. Turkey sent S.S. Struma Jews to death
Benny ,   Iran   (02.10.14)
Let's not forget a shipload of WWII Holocaust Jews ,who escaped the Nazi death camps, sick & emaciated, aboard the S.S. Struma, limped along with failed engines to Turkey. And the Turks, instead of helping them, tugged the boat far out to sea & the boat sank with all the former Jewish prisoners. Let Turks compensate their families also!
25. To All Commentators
Harold ,   USA   (02.10.14)
I don't believe this article until it happens.
26. Fool me (Israel) once, shame on you (Turkey's Erdogan gov)
Brooklyn Bridge ,   Being sold, Turkey   (02.11.14)
fool me for 10 years, sell my top secret secrets to Iran, give my military hardware to my enemies (Iran), punch me at every public opportunity for 10 year and if I think you are being true this time, than shame on me (Israel's government)
27. To One Commentator: You still don't have a clue & never will
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (02.11.14)
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