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'In the next generation, US Jews will disappear'
Itzchak Tessler
Published: 15.02.14, 07:27
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1. The generation that Israel becomes a nation again and
Rivkah   (02.15.14)
retakes Jerusalem is the generation that the Jewish Messiah comes. That heralds the end of Gentile world rule. Many of the commandments are everlasting for a reason. They don't pass away. The Jewish ways are coming to the whole earth in all their glory, the ways of the Torah and Tanakh, of the seventh day Shabbat of the Lord and the Jewish Holy Days for the sheep nations that are everlasting, too. All this nonsense about the Jews passing away is just that: nonsense.
2. Culture defines Jews & they will not disappear.
Michael ,   California, USA   (02.15.14)
If Halacha disappears there may be a tear shed by a historian purist, a religious theoretician somewhere, but not by us who live the history. Chelsea Clinton is happily married, that's the history of current times, all of it positive.
3. Same here
Mark ,   London, UK   (02.15.14)
Meeting someone with a strong religious affiliation in UK is very rare - certainly not something that is discussed in polite society and definitely not in the work place. Is this a bad thing? In my opinion, this is why those who do have strong feelings are more likely to express them externally - hijabs etc. The blending of denominations in Judaism is very advanced in UK. To all intents and purposes there's also a blending of religious practice as far as I can tell.
4. Patriarchal lineage was valid in Acient Times, became
N ,   N   (02.15.14)
invalid in the past 2000 years and now should become valid again. - Because now one can prove that the official father is the real father of a child. (If there is a doubt.)
5. American Jews intermarry like there's no tomorrow.
David ,   UK/RSA   (02.15.14)
But that's America. They've lost their roots and traditions. They see it as just another religion and don't see being a Jew as being part of a People. But I guess maybe you need antisemitsm to reinforce that.
6. American Palestinians will also disappear
Observer   (02.15.14)
And get diluted in the ocean of America
7. US Jews: We don't want facts, only opinion
Avi Israeli ,   Tel Aviv   (02.15.14)
Remember the US Jewish outcry over Israeli expat 'return to Israel' ads on YouTube? One ad showed how the boyfriend of "Dafna" doesn't understand why she's mourning on Yom Hazikaron. Another ad shows a Skype video call between a young girl and her parents in America speaking with her grandparents in Israel. A lit Chanukia clearly seen in the background. When the grandparents ask the girl if she knew what holiday it was, she responds "Christmas!" US pressure forced the Israeli government to end the advertising campaign but the underlying message a death by assimilation won't go away anytime soon.
8. I'm not pessimist
Jewish Patriot ,   Galut   (02.15.14)
I'm not pessimist , if they and we Jews had not disappeared in 4000 years, I do not think we will now. American Jews are proud of their heritage, may not be that religious, cause they are mostly Reform, but their identity is Jewish. And many support Israel.
9. USA Haredim will be millions.
Zechariah   (02.15.14)
By 2050 Haredim with US citizenship ought be millions and their generally strict though at times insular Moral codes will be respected.The Humanitarian Aspects will hopefully strengthen and more will work.IT will suit them Plus electrical and Trading work.
10. Only the islamic cult will be victorious....
Beary White ,   Norway   (02.15.14)
..say they have killed each other by 2050, and allah will be very happy.. And Sarah Palin would be right.. And Judaism will survive..:-) Then there will be peace on the earth for one thousand years...
11. Response to #7
Alan ,   Tel-Aviv   (02.15.14)
Several years ago, the telephone company Bezek (then a monopoly) ran a series of local TV adds showing Israelis speaking from America to family back home (courtesy of Bezek, of course). One such commercial showed a happy Israeli family gabbing away on the phone in a typical American suburban home. Bezek was criticized for promoting yerida (emmigration) and the offending add was removed. It was replaced by a sad Israeli student celebrating his lonely birthday in a cold Boston tenement while his friends in Israel hold a party for him wishing him well by telephone.
12. Ay, gevolt!
AY ,   USA   (02.15.14)
Oh no! Jews having a Christmas tree! It's the end of the world! (Never mind that Christians have taken the Christmas tree from the pagans and that in MANY languages the tree is not called "Christmas tree" like in English.) As for the rest, it's bordering on ridiculous. It's time for us Jews to recognize both paternal and maternal lineage, because what matters is what a person can contribute to the Jewish civilization, not whether it's mother's side or father's. After all, we accept gers and many of them have made an important contribution to our religion and culture.
13. Jewish = "Nationality" rather than just "Religion"
Andrew ,   Miami,FL   (02.15.14)
14. Some truth here.
Charlie ,   Baltimore   (02.15.14)
My thoughts: American Jews dont like the extremism of the orthodox so they join the Reform. I have seen chabad in Virginia talk bad about other jews, such European Jews, Lithuanian Jews, etc. I am a witness. -- Some jews intermarry to escape certain things that they dont like. This is why they intermarry. There is a reason for everything.
15. It's time to assimilate ,...
split ,   US   (02.15.14)
Hopefully their schnoring oriented organisations and AIPAC with them ,...
16. Additional cause for anti-Semitism
Moshe ,   Israel   (02.15.14)
One of the reasons for anti-Semitism in US, and not only there, might be the preference of many non-Jewish girls to potential Jewish grooms, on grounds elaborated in this article. This anti-Semitism is of course presented as motivated by other drives.
17. The weakness of European and American Jews
Dror ,   Haifa, Israel   (02.15.14)
They are majority eshkentuzim. The shknoz have long been diluted throughout the centuries. The fact that they are going to disappear as Jews is not at all surprising. We are in the Birur. Many Jews will not make it.
18. In another generation, only the haredim will remain
Lewis ,   Tel Aviv   (02.15.14)
The key point to remember is that the kids of these intermarried couples will virtually ALL marry gentiles. (I say this as a secular Israeli myself).
19. Very sad prediction.
Wise Saba ,   Netivot area   (02.15.14)
And for this tragedy we have the Reformed & to a lesser extent the Conservative Movements to thank. The only way to fight this phenomenon is to give our children & grandchildren a proper Jewish education so they know who they are & where they came from.
20. #9 ,...
split   (02.15.14)
How long do you think you can milk the hard working six-pack-Joe before he gets really pissed off and shows you the door? ,...
21. To #18
M. Hartley ,   Atlanta, US   (02.15.14)
And what happens to Jews in a few more generations, when only Haredim marry each other????
22. Jewish boys going after non-Jewish girls
Scott ,   Ramat Gan   (02.15.14)
There are many reasons for this. JAPs can be difficult if not impossible to live with, for starters.
23. And here is a way to help cure this:
Moshe ,   Usa   (02.15.14)
1]Liberal parents are stupid & often"don't want to interfere in their childrens' lives & do not cogently advise them. Grandparents have more experience than parents & can better advise their grandchildren, but are often kept out of that role by stupid liberal parents. Interfaith marriages(IMs) are less sturdy & more often break apart. Often there is tension between spouses parents & families(such as antisemitism) that puts pressure on IMs. After 1800 years of murders,expulsions,theft & church sexual perversion, chrustionity is not good enough to pass down to any child. One day it might change for the better. 2]There should be Jewish prominant universities in every state that are run by Jews & Jewish organisations. And every synagogue should submit their membership list to solicit members' children as Jewish fraternities/sororities, Hillel & so on does not isolate young Jews enough at public universities to overcome the lack of guidance by their stupid liberal families.3]The world is more peaceful with more Jews. In addition to the caring,nurturing character of Jewish parents, it is only the malevolent opportunistic nature of goyim that has immorally increased their number over ours. Jews were 10% of the world's population at the time of common era.
24. Judaism in the next generation.
Ed Codish ,   Pardessiya   (02.15.14)
For the majority of Jews (and non-Jews), anyone who says she or he is Jewish is a Jew. There may be a problem in this for Orthodox rabbis (but not most self-defined Orthodox Jews). That is, for 90-95% of the American Jewish population this article is irrelevant.
25. intermarriage
Oded ,   Miami,USA   (02.15.14)
Jews from Russia,Poland and Northern Europe are Blond and Blue Eyed,where as Jews from Yemen are Dark skinned to the point of being Black with African Features...Yet we are all Jews. In the last 3500 years, Jews have intermarried constantly going back to King David whose Great Grandmother was Ruth The Moabite. Is anyone casting Doubts about David's Jewishness ? The world is changing and Jews need to become more and more inclusive rather than exclusive. When people declare that they identify as Jews and are proud of that fact...they should be accepted and embraced and encouraged !
26. A few random thoughts
Scarborough1414 ,   Scarborough, ON, CA   (02.15.14)
To no. 17, Dror: What the hell are you saying? Next time puh-leeze write in English. Tossing around Hebrew, Aramaic and Yiddish terms with no translation helps no one. Learn more English! While we're at it, here's something: Why do Jewish boys marry out at a greater rate than do the girls? (Studies back this up). Here's a reason: Our girls make no effort to keep our boys in the fold. The shiksas come prowling around for our boys and our girls let it happen. What are they supposed to do? Latch onto our boys like their lives depended on it and keep the shiksas away. Of course that won't happen. The level of self-hatred our girls have is immense and they see our boys as the symbol of their identity crisis. Our girls are messed up, but the rabbonim pick the easy target and rail against the boys for "marrying out". What they should be doing is condemning the girls for letting our boys get away. Why am I the only one who has any brains? (If you don't believe me, watch "Princesses of Long Island". It paints a sad but true picture of the state of modern Jewish womanhood).
27. worrying about lack of "Jews"...
Bluegrass Picker ,   Afula   (02.15.14)
...is like worrying about the loss of guys who knew the right way to fold up and stow the canvas Mishkan tent onto the donkeys. Change happens. We are the Hebrew ethnic people. That is our future.
28. Jewish women and Jewish men.
David ,   Virginia   (02.16.14)
In USA; Men claim: Jewish J.A.P.S. dont make an effort to keep Jewish men. They behave like somebody owes them. Give me this, give me that... Females claim: The Jewish men behave like Mommies Boys. So what happens: Both seek non-jews to marry. They both claim that they dont want the headaches. I speak from experience and listened to what my friends tell me.
29. To #24
Ralph ,   Rome   (02.15.14)
Where do you live?
30. Scarbourough, messed up is correct.
Dror ,   Haifa, Israel   (02.16.14)
Yiddish and Hebrew terms on this Israeli English news site are frequently used and who are you to question that? I was using a derogatory term for Ashkenazim which you obviously did not understand. "Birur" in Hebrew means examination or test. We are living through a serious period of examination by God. These are End Times. We are nearing the Days of Mashiach Ben David. Soon Jews will be left with two options. Live in Israel or perish as Jews. Those that choose to remain in the Galut will no longer remain Jews, this article makes it glaringly obvious. As for Jewish women, they have never been easy to get along with, ever. As for me, it was enough to bang one of them up and then divorce. Luckily I have a son. My chauvinistic, middle eastern, and misogynistic personality would have made it very hard for me to have a daughter. I prefer more sons in the future. Plenty of gullible Jewish baby makers out there. Problem that Jewish men have is that they are too nice. American Jewish girls are snobs and are unbearable gold diggers. Come to Israel and knock up some gullible Israeli girl, promise her the world and a good life in America. DON'T FORGET THE PRENUP.
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