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EU Commission chief says won't tolerate violation of religious rights
Kobi Nachshoni
Published: 21.02.14, 00:50
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1. Jews win, animals and babys/kids lose..
EU   (02.21.14)
2. Barroso is yet another pyromaniac fireman
Genuine Moshe   (02.21.14)
3. Gee thanks Europe! What a favor!
Israeli 2   (02.21.14)
Jews & Muslims united on this one, huh?
4. # 3
Avogadro ,   Tel-Aviv, Israel   (02.21.14)
Yes, both still hang onto stone aged customs and refuse to adapt these customs to the realities of more enlightened times. Science has moved on you know, does medicine ring a bell? perhaps hygeine etc.
5. I can't understand these pagans
Jerome ,   AKL   (02.21.14)
Have we ever asked you to stop using our Kiddush cup and pretend it's Jesus blood? Have we ever asked you to stop feeding your congregants our Hallah aka communion pretending it is Jesus flesh? (ok looks like a wafer, nevertheless the root is Hamotzi) So why interfer in our stuff?
6. Kosher Slaughter and circumcison
E Benedict ,   Miami, Florida   (02.21.14)
Finally Europe is coming to its senses. Female genital mutilation is forbidden, why allow male circumcision? Male circumcision is a barbaric requirement. And....the Jewish method of slaughter of animals is equally barbaric and cruel, and the Rabbi blessing the animal as its throat is slit and it is bled to death does not constitute a humane method of killing an animal for food. Disgusting..
7. 4 Avogadro: Africa where AIDS is rampant is circumcising
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even adult males to help contain the epidemic since circumcision is helpful in reducing the HIV infection risk. There is no science better than HaShem's science which says to circumcise male babies at the 8th day.
8. 6 E. Bendict, Miami: Why allow male circumcision? Because
(02.21.14)
the Lord who created humans as well as the Universe, does not want the flesh of the male penis foreskin to touch the male seed (semen) as it passes into the holy place of the female where conception occurs. Conception is sacred to the Lord and he wants it to occur in humans with male seed that is uncontaminated by the flesh of the foreskin. Uncircumcised in Scriptures is a Hebrew word that means pagan and heathen.
9. #8
NilsG ,   Helsingborg, Sweden   (02.21.14)
Here we go again. There is this entity. It has created the universe, so it must be more than 13.6 billions old. Galaxies, superclusters ... everything. The ecology of Earth asnd, most likely , countless other worlds with life. It apparently sees and knows everything. What is its obsession? Little boys prepuces. Yea right.
10. to all our intellectual elitists here
Arn ,   Yehud, Israel   (02.22.14)
Permit me to address all those supercilious elitists who point to science and our 21 century as reason to ridicule circumcision. Ritual slaughter is a separate issue. The Hebrews are the most ancient people on the face of the earth. How many mighty colossal empires have become lost in the sands of time while the Jews in their miniscule numbers continue to flourish. It is precisely the ritual of circumcision that stamps our singular identity. A Canadian Jew can wed a Jewess from Afghanistan and sit next to Ethiopian, Polish and French Jews in the same synagogue. Through circumcision we are all partner to the original covenant with God. Without circumcision we would be lost in a single generation. The Danish government has merely given us their (humane) version of the final solution.
11. Israel should close embassies
zionist forever   (02.22.14)
If these Scandinavian countries want to ban circumcission Israel should close the embassies, don't do much trade with them anyway and they have never been friendly with Israel. Should also go to the European courts to demand that both circumcission and Kashrut be allowed. Lets see if its possible to team up with the islamic world for once get a global pressure on the liberal EU who are obsessed with rights except religious rights.
12. Circumcision , or better Brith Mila
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (02.23.14)
Is done to babies as a sign that they belong to the Jewish people . And that's why seculars have this also performed on their boys .
13. #12
NilsG ,   Helsingborg, Sweden   (02.23.14)
... Jewish PEOPLE? So, not Jewish RELIGION? Then, why would the question of circumcision relate to religious freedom? Eh, Charles? You are secular, right?
14. 4Avogadro The more science
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (02.23.14)
advances,the more it gets closer to what the Tora states,See Rabbi Zamir Cohen Utube and read Science outscienced. Most interesting.
15. 13 NilsG There are plain Secular and
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (02.23.14)
Secular with a Jewish soul. Big difference For religious Jews Berit Mila is indeed a religious act .
16. 12 Charles,When Science will ...
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (02.23.14)
recognise that the world is as old as the Tora states,will you then consider the Brith Mila as a religious act? Don't shoot me. Shavuah Tov,Charles.
17. 10 Great comment Arn !
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (02.23.14)
18. Nils 13
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (02.23.14)
For religious people it's a G-D's commandement , for seculars , as I am , it's a sign that you belong to the Jewish people . So you see it's related to religious freedom and secular's freedom to choose for their sons to belong to the Jewish people . Is this clear to you ?
19. # 13
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (02.23.14)
For religious people it's a G-D's commandement , for seculars , as I am , it's a sign that you belong to the Jewish people . So you see it's related to religious freedom and secular's freedom to choose for their sons to belong to the Jewish people . Is this clear to you ?
20. #10 Elitisme
NilsG ,   Helsingborg, Sweden   (02.23.14)
OK, Arn. On the one aside is somebody not quite certain how the Universe came to be, but, feeling that we are working on the problem, things may most likely chagne over time, meanwhile, let's make the best we can for everybody on this planet. On the other side, somebody knows with certainty how everything came to be and, not only that, he/she also has a good insight into the mental processes of a alleged creator entity. Of these two, the second, calls the first elitist. Yea right.
21. circumcision
proudIsraelsupporter ,   Hermanus, South Afri   (02.24.14)
Statistics have proven that there is a 60% reduction in HIV/AIDS in circumcised men. For European countries to deny the right to reducing HIV/AIDS, is therefore, barbaric.
22. Ora , 16 TRY # 2
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (02.24.14)
For science the world is millions of years old . For Tora only some thousands . So , NO , for ME Brith Mila is what I wrote in my comments , not a religious act ... Fine to see you're OK
23. Ora , 16 . Fine to see you're OK
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (02.24.14)
For science the world is MUCH older than what the Tora states . Read my 18 / 19 for the rest
24.  23 Thanks Charles for the kind words
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (02.25.14)
25. # 13 Not just JEWISH people, Muslims as well
BUILD BABY BUILD!!!! ,   United States   (02.28.14)
as many non religious parents for health and cleanliness reasons. Studies in Africa have shown that males having been circumcised suffer less cases of AIDS and HIV than do the non circumcised. So, circumcision can be both religious and secular. Any government forbidding the ritual does step on the rights of the parents both religious and secular.... Don't you agree?? Non circumcised males are about as attractive as a smelly turtle necked penis can be to most women it makes them vomit. KEEP BUILDING ALL OF ISRAEL FOR ALL JEWS !!!!
26. # 10 Thank you Arn, Yehud, Israel
BUILD BABY BUILD!!!! ,   United States   (02.28.14)
Circumcision is what Jewish males did to signify obedience to G-d. In addition the medical evidence is that males who are circumcised have fewer cases of HIV AIDS than males who have not. "Father knows best." Danes aren't that 'humane' after all. KEEP BUILDING !!!!
27. # 22 Charles actually,
BUILD BABY BUILD!!!! ,   United States   (02.28.14)
the world is billions of years old. The Torah also states that 'with G-d each day is as a thousand years when it is past.' If you take that premise, and multiply 365,000 x's 5774 ( Jewish calendar ) it comes to over 2 billion years. In addition, one master Rabbi theorized there have been 7 worlds meaning, if you then multiply 7 times that amount you end up with over 14 billion years.. But, who counts? Einstein believed that time bends...KEEP BUILDING !!!!!
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