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NYC Orthodox Jews protest proposed Israeli draft
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Published: 10.03.14, 09:08
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1. There once was a time
Raptor   (03.10.14)
when I was proud to be a Jew. Now when I see these folk and hear of their antics I hang my head low in shame. They are a blight on our People, Nation, Religion and country. They will be our downfall.
2. Lets see Section 8, food stamp schnorrers have a pre-Purim
Al   (03.10.14)
field day in NYC. Remind me again why I will never ever sponsor them. Useless feckless moochers know no borders. These 'Hassid Impostors' will the death of our religion and nation. They have learned nothing from the holocaust.
3. Who cares!
Saba Avraham ,   Netivot   (03.10.14)
Who cares what the haredim say in New York, if they don't like it in Israel let them stay where they are, but if they do want a say, let them make Aliyah like we did 20 years ago. No free rides for anyone here in Israel, including the thousands of secular youth who are opting out in record numbers. Either the new law is enforced for everyone of no one.
4. people
yhiela ,   paris   (03.10.14)
disgusting people
5. Gun
(03.10.14)
But it is okay for non religious men to hold a gun at the age of 18?
6. No IDF/alternate service, no voting rights or welfare checks
Dr. L. Brnd ,   San Diego, USA   (03.10.14)
There is nothing "Jewish" about the self-styled ultra-orthodox cults that refuse to serve yet demand voting rights and welfare checks for loafing and not working. Their fraudulent "Torah study" is certainly no service to the Jewish nation. Voting rights and welfare eligibility should be suspended for anyone, Jew or Arab, who refuses to serve in the IDF or alternate national service. All the great rabbis of the past, and their students, not to mention all the Jews of the Torah, had real jobs to support their families, none "studied Torah" full time - what, do you think the Russian Tsars or the King of Lithuania paid their ancestors to "study Torah full time" Of course not. The Lubavitch Hassidim - the genuine ultraorthodox - work, pay taxes, serve in the IDF and don't sponge off the taxpayers. Only the fake jewish cults like the Satmar "hassidim" and Naturei Karta and the other parasites demand a free ride. The US prosecutes anybody of any religion who refuses to register for Selective Service - conviction of this felony especially during wartime means prison, and no welfare checks or voting rights. Satmar included. Israel must adopt the same laws.
7. 1.25 million demonstrated in Israel and 1/4 million people
Anonymous   (03.10.14)
demonstrated in New York against the cantonist conscription of 2014 in Israel, at the same time a group of Jews went to pray at the grave of the holy great-grandfather of Lapid to "take care" of his wayward descendant the modern day Haman. In another few days all religious Jews worldwide will happily be singing "LaYehudim hayta ora vesimcha..."
8. draft
Moti ,   Surprise, AZ USA   (03.10.14)
And who will protect them the day the Arab hordes over-run the Walls of Jerusalem.
9. Thank God they live there
Gracey ,   Tel Aviv   (03.10.14)
Don't hurry over!
10. Mob rule syndrome
Haim   (03.10.14)
Quite honestly its none of their business. If they think that mob rule will save their holy backsides i suggest they think again. When the US had compulsory draft every fit man bin the required age range served including Elvis.
11. above
moishe   (03.10.14)
blood sucking leeches in black clothes. not even residing in Israel. modern 'makos' on the Jews! is this what GOD wants? a free ride to heaven.
12. They recited Psalm 79, unbelievable!
misha ,   TA   (03.10.14)
This is what the Haredim think, if they think at all, about the Israeli government and about their secular brothers and sisters who serve in the military. Shocking! O God, heathens have entered Your domain, defiled Your Holy Temple, and turned Jerusalem into ruins. They have left Your servants’ corpses as food for the fowl of heaven, and the flesh of Your faithful for the wild beasts.Their blood was shed like water around Jerusalem, with none to bury them. We have become the butt of our neighbors, the scorn and derision of those around us. How long, O Lord, will You be angry forever, will Your indignation blaze like fire? Pour out Your fury on the nations that do not know You, upon the kingdoms that do not invoke Your name... (Psalms 79)
13. Just curious
Goldi   (03.10.14)
Where this article was published in the new york nwspapers? New York Times? the wall street jounal? Daily news? Etc? Ynet sources?
14. How beautiful! What a KIDDUSH HASHEM!
Sharon   (03.10.14)
If only Htler would be here to see how his evil plans of eradicating all Jews was a total failure. And so is Ben-Gurion turning in his grave as over a million religious Jews demonstrated so beautifully last week in Israel and so will Lapid and Bennett turn in their graves as most Jews will very soon become religious. Religious Jews have learned who the Zionists are and have seen what they did to more than 5,000 religious Yemenite Jews. Never again will Jews go like sheep to the slaughter including the Zionist slaughter.
15. #1 If you're ashamed of Torah Jews, I wonder
Anon   (03.10.14)
how proud your ancestors are of you... ? and how proud the ancestors of most of these talkbackers are? I doubt there are more than 1-2 of you guys who are truly G-d fearing Jews keeping all of G-d's commandments as He instructed. Most of you should hang your head low in shame to the One Above.
16. #14 you and your ilk are impostors
Al   (03.10.14)
For the goy you will have respect for he will annihilate you. You know nothing of our history and thus you will experience it again and again. I need remind you that the overwhelming majority of those burned in Auschwitz were religious Jews who listened to their dear 'Rabbis' who told them America was treif and Israel was run by godless Zionists. Well guess what the Jews in America survived as did the Jews in Israel. Yes indeed you are that dumb. I wish you well as you will continue to suck on the teat of the goy, till such time he will decide to destroy you. You are not Jews and so I divorce myself from you.
17. Under Lenin Would Join in a Decade
Zechariah   (03.10.14)
Under Lenin they would join in a Decade and the Corruption with the Czarist Conscription was Foul.Thats where the word Chuppers came from.Still they have one great Value which Balances out their Faults They are Demographically Revunating the Jewish nature .Really they ought be in the Gallus but tHe less Religious would miss them .Ignore the Protests sooner or later every Jew Capable will have to Fight .
18. A robust blind guy and his weak ..
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (03.10.14)
friend after having lost their way hungry and exhausted,have finally reached a beautiful apple orchard .They are hungry .The blind don't see and the weak can't reach the apples. Problem? Not for friends.. The athletic blind man raises his sighted friend on his shoulders, and problem solved. .G-D created all Jews with each one a different purpose in life. and the needed instruments to achieve it. Now,to demand from spiritual men and athletes to do same jobs is as useful as distributing to all people, same eyeglasses. When G-D gave the Tora He intended 20% of Jews not to be drafted in the army but to serve Him. To day israel has 8% Orthodox Jews and many of them have joined the IDF. There is room for more than 12% Secular to serving G-D,Feel free to join them. Then ,defeating the hordes of Israel's enemies,will be possible.. Am Israel Hai !
19. Mitzvahs is Hebrew, not Yiddish.
Reuven Brauner ,   Raanana, Israel   (03.10.14)
It is the Ashkenazi pronunciation. Do your homework, ynet.
20. My ancestors are pushing daises
Raptor   (03.10.14)
So they do not think about me. They built Israel and not the black coat brigade.
21. What phonies
Sidney ,   USA   (03.10.14)
There was no exemption for these "students" when we had a draft here in the U.S.. If the draft were restarted they would serve in the military or prison. In any country but Israel, all you would need to trigger massive anti-Semitism would be a demand by the ultra orthodox for draft exemption in time of war.
22. NYC Orthodox Jews protest proposed Israeli draft
George Weiss ,   Teaneck, USA   (03.10.14)
No one is bor with the ability to hold a gun. This is a skill that must be learned and should be learned. Additionally, there are many other ways to serve than just by learning to use a gun. There is no excuse for not doing this.
23. Give them no food,no air or water, no money until they serve
Michael ,   California, USA   (03.10.14)
24. Let those bums do their share for the country – draft them!
Alex ,   New York, US   (03.10.14)
25.  A SCHNOOERS INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE!
Rafi ,   US   (03.10.14)
... for a draft evasion rally they come out of the woodwork! Otherwise they want nothing to do with the State of Israel (or the US govt) except for their welfare checks, free health care & voting their crooks into office.... They really are selfish & reprehensible ! At least the Amish in the US (who practice similar non-govt involvement) WORK and carry their own weight...
26. Bums, bums and bums again
True Jew   (03.10.14)
Skid row is too good for them.
27. 16 Al,some of your comments are
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (03.10.14)
brilliant. Not this one ! 1)Overwhelming majority of Jews did quit Judaism for other isms before the Shoa. 2)Very few listened to the Rabbis. 3)The goy ,when he is in a destroying mood,makes no difference between religious and non-religious Jews. 4)Divorce doesn't better anything.Quite the opposite. Conclusion: Concentrate on grounds to be together with the other thinking Jews, and make the best out of it. Peace is the most valuable thing on earth,therefor there is a price to pay. Much less than a divorce. Haredim are sponsored by families and friends from abroad.These dollars are very welcome in Israel The State of Israel gives less than !% of the budget to a population of 8%. Come on Al,you are a smart guy.Next time you are in a bad mood,let your steam of by writing everything that goes through your head, But don't submit. Enjoy life,Al,
28. #23: Sage advice
Harold G. ,   Jerusalem   (03.10.14)
from California . . . .
29. it's past embarassing
arne ,   chicago usa   (03.10.14)
it's shameful--if I wasn't Jewish I'd probably be laughing at this "event"
30. #15 Our ancestors would be ashamed of you
Sidney ,   USA   (03.10.14)
Even distinguished rabbis worked for a living. "The sages of the Talmud worked at many diverse occupations. For instance, Hillel was a woodchopper before he became the Nasi (President of the Sanhedrin) and Shammai the Elder was a builder. Abba Chilkiyah was a field laborer; Rabbi Yochanan b. Zakkai was a businessman for forty years; Abba Shaul was a gravedigger; Abba Chilkiyah was a field worker; Abba Oshiya was a launderer; Rabbi Shimon P’kuli was a cotton dealer; Rabbi Shmuel b. Shilas was a school teacher, Rabbi Meir and Rabi Chananel were scribes; Rabbi Yosi b. Chalafta was a tanner; Rabbi Yochanan Hasandlar was a shoemaker; Rabbi Yehoshua b. Chananiah was a blacksmith; Rabbi Safra and Rabbi Dimi of Nehardea were merchants; Rabbi Abba b. Zavina was a tailor; Rabbi Yosef b. Chiya and Rabbi Yannai owned vineyards; Rabbi Huna was a farmer and raised cattle; Rabbi Chisda and Rabbi Papa were beer brewers; Karna was a wine smeller (he determined which wine could be stored and which had to be sold immediately); Rabbi Chiya b. Yosef was in the salt business; Abba Bar Abba, (father of Mar Shmuel) was a silk merchant; and (Mar) Shmuel was a doctor."
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