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Abbas' international treaties gesture could backfire
Itamar Eichner
Published: 18.04.14, 00:49
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1. We should rather start with suing our Quisling politicians,
tom ,   tel aviv   (04.18.14)
these various "Architects" of doom & destruction of Jewish lives. This Dr.Shoah Denier is a zilch, so are his Fakestinians together with the rest of the infested Europe. Time to take the gloves off. The Bolshevik 'founding Fathers" of our country didn't give a shit about brotherly love: they pursued their political opponents with all means at their disposal (with bloody consequences too). Look where it got them: in the Pantheon of our National heroes, damn their eyes!
2. Native Americans, Native Palestinians, are not terrorists
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (04.18.14)
Both native populations fought invading Europeans stealing their land, killing their people. A war crime since 1949 Geneva Convention.
3. First and above all
Mira ,   Vienna   (04.18.14)
a legal case must be made pointing out that Abu Mazen is NOT legitimated to sign anything at Intermational forums.
4. Palestinian’s hand is always strong.
atilla karagözoğlu   (04.18.14)
Palestine must keep to apply to all international organizations No matter if something good comes out or not, today. Look like, israel is not happy with Mr. Abbas’s aplications ! Look like, there is a little panic in israel ! Maybe not :) Anyway, Palestinian’s hand is always strong. Israel is World Most War Criminal. No matter when, Someday, World will move about israel ICC or others, UN or others, Will have to do better things done to punish israel.
5. Why are we spending all this effort
Sammy ,   Newcastle   (04.18.14)
On dead ends? We should be spending all our time and effort PREPARING FOR STATEHOOD These UN Shows are a digression and a complete waste of time more often initiated by groups of Non Palestinians who have NO IDEA of the complexities of Israel-Palestine narrative So when I hear sometimes well meaning but often so called supporters with very questionable motives from Non Palestinian Circles who would prefer to spout isolation and constantly caracturise Palestinians as bitter, resentful and victims where we see pride, optimism, creativity and prosperity....you really have to wonder wether we have anything in common Recently when in London I proposed to some BDS Campaigners that perhaps they could better turn their efforts instead to raising funds for ambulances, parks, tree planting in the West Bank...only for this moron to call ME a traitor Do we need friends like these?
6. Let the Umpire Decide
Darren Ben John ,   Townsville Australia   (04.18.14)
Sure, bring both sides before the ICC, to be tried for Crimes Against Humanity and War Crimes. If either side or both is/are found guilty by an impartial judge, then let them serve their time. But the umpire's decision must be final. I will be happy with that.
7. Bibi is opposed to the move because he
Why   (04.18.14)
Wants to protect Abbas. Love!
8. the world bows down to abbas so don't count on the swiss
zionist forever   (04.18.14)
Knowing the record of international bodies like the UN and the factor the western world seems to bow down to Abbas even if there are legal grounds to hold him responsible they will say no actually he is exempt. Abbas has another get out of jail free card because every time sometimes wants to punish him for something or order him to do something unpopular he says this is not good for peace. Firsst attempt we make to take him to the international courts you can bet he will say negotiations are over Israel is creating obstructions by taking us to the criminal courts.
9. court procedures
Bluegrass Picker ,   Afula   (04.18.14)
if they try to indict us as defendants, the FIRST step of the court will be to establish its lawful jurisdiction in the instant case. That is the correct legal moment to attack the validity of Abbas' expired "presidency".
10. It was a bluff from the beginning to extort more concessions
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (04.18.14)
11. Stop Idle Legal Talk, Let's Argue In Court
Jersey Jew ,   New Jersey, USA   (04.18.14)
If our position is legally strong & solid, why simply talk legal threats? Let's present the issues in a legal framework in a recognized Court, & have our Legal Position affirmed. Constant talk & threats with no action imply a weak legal position, & undermine our behaviours ...
12. Why wasn't Abbas charged with the assassination of the 11
BUILD BABY BUILD!!!!   (04.18.14)
Israeli athletes in Munich? He should be dead by now. ALWAYS BUILDING ISRAEL !!!
13. MR. ZIVIN, ARE YOU SERIOUS?
FO ,   Belgium   (04.18.14)
Isn't the Israeli leadership pretending that Abbas is a serious, reliable and moderate partner? And you, Mr. Zivin, you are going to accuse Abbas of being responsible for Palestinian terrorism? All means seems to be good to appease Israel's fear concerning the Palestinians acceding to the Fourth Geneva Conventions. All means should eventually been used, just not the truth, that should remain the eternal "family secret": the fact that the creation of a Jewish State was submitted at the San Rémo Conference in 1920 and got its legal confirmation by the historical vote by all the 51 members of the League of Nations, the 24th of July 1922, under the name, the "Mandate for Palestine". But the concept of a Jewish State had been rejected already earlier by the Left majority of the Zionist movement. (Read the introduction to the "History of Zionism" by Nahum Sokolov, who became the Chairman of the World Zionist Organization in 1931!) This catastrophic decision, while a Jewish State could have been born in the years thirties, will have as consequence the Shoah! Hitler would never have dared to apply the Final Solution if a Jewish State would have existed at that time, and would have been part of the Allied Forces. This is the family secret that should be preserved for eternity, it seems! So, the Fourth Geneva Convention is in no way applicable to Israel's presence in the so called West Bank. The West Bank is and remains a residual part of the Mandate for Palestine, a Mandate that gave the Jews the Irrevocable Right for a State, and to settle on the territory between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River, including the Golan Heights, a right that became International Law, guaranteed by the Anglo-American Treaty in 1924, a Treaty that became the Law of the State in the USA, a right that was reaffirmed by Article 80 of the United Nations, as well as all other decisions of the League. So, Mr. Zivin, what do you think after reading all this?....
14. #6, Racist Denier of Tibetan and Aborigine rights to States
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (04.18.14)
15. Native Jews have Israel, Foreign Arab terrorists to Mecca
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (04.18.14)
16. 10,14,15 not mine.
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (04.18.14)
Fan club.
17. # 6 Then you'll be happy to know that
BUILD BABY BUILD!!!!   (04.18.14)
only HAMAS has been formally charged with "Crimes Against Humanity before the Hague. So nice to know these animals are the side you support. Hopefully, they'll meet the same fate as Eichmann." BUILDING A MIGHTY ISRAEL.!!!
18. # 4 Sober up Atilla!
BUILD BABY BUILD!!!!   (04.18.14)
Your nation is sinking into oblivion. BUILDING HOMES FOR JEWS !!!
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