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Abbas still willing to seek talks extension, but will never recognize 'Jewish state'
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Published: 26.04.14, 16:31
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1. Just nonsense! He know unity deal killed all chances!
michael redboun ,   Lisbon - Portugal   (04.26.14)
2. No point in continuing really
Yeoshua F. ,   N.Y   (04.26.14)
The Palestinian strategy is right. With every year and every decade that pass, the demographics of Israel and Palestine change drastically. The two groups who have by far the largest demographic growth are Arabs (in Israel and Palestine) and Haredim orthodox Jews, who are indifferent to nationalistic extremism. Secular ¨Zionist¨ Jews are mass migrating to Europe and America and with the new ¨open sky¨ airline policy and countries such as Spain more eager to grant Jews EU citizenship, this trend will increase. Not to mention America granting Israelis visa free access to the U.S.. These emigrating Jews are being replaced by : 1) part-time Jewish residents from France or America who are more interested in depositing (or hiding) their capital in Israeli banks and real estate. and go back and forth. 2) Jewish American teens who want to ¨taste¨ the Israeli experience for a year or two and then go back to their lives in the U.S. Israeli society is already beginning to feel the demographic crunch with the sudden need to massively recruit ¨Haredim¨ to the army, and even create a whole new Haredi infantry brigade (sounds ridiculous ?.. it is). Which most probably ain´t gonna happen. What the Palestinians need to do at this point is concentrate on the micro.. just keep on building their society and improve health and education. The macro will take care of itself.
3. Israel should go for it.
simon ,   UK   (04.26.14)
It has been a big mistake to release prisoners, however Israel set the precedent by doing this in the past. Israel should agree to these terms. Stop any building in WB and Jerusalem and extend the talks. At the end of this 3 month period the Palestinians won't agree to anything they never have they never will. Their leadership doesn't want peace. They are not capable of transitioning in to statesmen. Come back in 200 years and may be they will have matured a little. Arabs don't want the ME to be judenrein just that Jews be subjugated as that's what they have brought up to believe.
4. Kick Abbas, Fatah, Hamas and Arabs out of Israel!
Alexander ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (04.26.14)
Enough is enough. Not a single independent and sovereign state out there, neither today nor in the past, would ever accept, in their midst, a hostile foreign civilization, trying to eat up and annihilate the host nation from within. Abbas wants Israel and the Jews dead and destroyed but he wants to continue talking to us? It's like Hitler wishing to speak to the Jews while he massacres them. The difference between Hitler and Abbas -despite their striking resemblance in Jew hatred, racism, evil and ideological outlook, is that Hitler had the power to destroy the Jewish people, whereas Abbas is a terrorist clown facing Israel - a military, scientific and technological superpower. Abbas the Holocaust Denier, Abbas the Terrorist, Abbas the Powerless Clown who is in "Power" only because Israel allows him to be, Abbas the Parasite that steals Jewish land and history, receives Money, food, running water and electricity from the Jewish State of Israel, declares war on Israel and demands this and that? Abbas - the leader of a rabble of racist Jew haters and terrorists, is threatening Israel - a nuclear power. It seems that Abbas and his Arab-Islamic brethren neither have brains nor moral dignity. Netanyahu and other Israeli leaders on the other hand, lack the balls to save Israel from these Arab speaking usurpers who belong in Asia, Africa and Europe - as evidenced by historical proof verifying the TRUE origins of the...ehuum... "native Palestinians" (LOL!). Too bad not a single ancient civilization has ever mentioned once in a single historical record anywhere, the existence of any "Palestinian" people, nation or country. But why bother with details?
5. I get it..
BUILD BABY BUILD !!!   (04.26.14)
The 'talks' are Abbas' non stop avenue for perpetuating this so called 'palestinian' fraud ad infinitum. Apparently, the real profit is the costly charade amounting to the release of convicted palestinian terrorists and the unnatural death wish Abbas would ( with obama/clinton/kerry's aid to) destroy Israel by 'demanding Israel all settlement activities'. Are you freaking nuts? By assisting the pals, obama has proven time and time again, he is the enemy of Israel, the USA and, of peace at OUR cost by squandering my tax dollars and yours on this folly of alienating our only trusted ME ally, Israel. But, how long it's taking to figure out why a so called 'peace' talk process has only produced more insanity and zigging and zagging from the two headed snake called Hamas and the PA. There's gold in them there wills. Another prolonged, agonizing, too painful to watch abortion by obama 'care.' Oh, I forgot, it's called his 'foreign policy.' Pretty damned foreign if you ask me. KEEP BUILDING ALL OF ISRAEL FOR ALL HER JEWS !!! we waited over 2,000 years for the privilege.
6. Abbas is a terrorist
Grant ,   USA   (04.26.14)
Why would Israel EVER negotiate with a group that denies their right to exist? Tell Kerry to stick it up his ass!
7. Wht about "no conditions"
Mira ,   Vienna   (04.26.14)
did Abbas not understand? And if he thinks that playing dirty games he will get eventually what he wants he will be mistaken. Go ahead Abbas with your unity movement, it will cost you your head eventually!
8. No more money...
Gady ,   Mexico City   (04.26.14)
for clitoris-mutilating, suicidal-vest-wearing, facece-covering, pedophilic, camel-riding, blood-thirsty barbarians. Let them eat sand, let them kill eachother, as well as the Iraquis, the syrians and the whole gang of islamofacists, every one they kill on themselves, is a bullet less for Tzahal.
9. a game of his own
Lwitiko Katule ,   D,salaam,Tanzania   (04.26.14)
I am not surprise to see how Abbas is playing the music of his own and expecting Israel to dance the tune, Reconciliation with Hamas is a bad step, enough is enough, Israel has no any reasons to dance the tune of this difficult fellow
10. The Israeli Solution. This tiny land is ours.
Chaim ,   Israel   (04.26.14)
There is no Palestine and certainly no "Palestinian president". This tiny land is all Israel and belongs to Jews. Nobody has the right to cede a single grain of our sand. Beilin should be prosecuted for treason over Oslo.
11. HEY ABBASS: here's how to start back the"piece" process...
Jewdo & Jewjitsu ,   AMERICA THE BEAUTIUL   (04.26.14)
1-haneyah must go on TV and state in no uncertain terms..."we recant the statement of "oblivion to Israel" and wish Israel all the mazel to live in peace next to PAL state...and not continue to try to take Israel piece by piece apart and drive Jewish people out of Israel...as far as recognition of Israel as a Jewish state, not all (not most) Israeli's need this caveat! 2-ditto Abbass- no more pieces of Israel for the asking. No more U.N. end runs. No more one way gestures....must be gesture for gesture. Israel to QUICKLY forward all collected taxes to the PALS if a transparent system could be installed to stop the stealing, skimming, fraud and theft. 3- call off the dogs (of HEZ and Jihad), sign a realistic peace treaty guaranteed by the Arab League. 4-convince the arab street they can/will become rich and famous if they embrace peace with Israel like a Hong Kong and a Singapore, a silicon valley, etc. 5-COMPLETELY demilitarize gaza so the gaza airport can get a rebuild, open up all the crossings to allow free flow of essentials with a warranty on their usage 6-make the proper Israel/WB property exchanges to ease the population issues, etc.. 7- right of return- only those who can prove they were pushed out/sent away by the then gov't can apply...case by case basis through the courts' and legal system of Israel. Arabs that fled/abandoned or were coerced to leave could get a priority in court calendar, AND all JEWISH claims of the same expulsion situation and issues are also court decided, but Arab League supported...both Israeli and PAL claims must be considered equally. 8-retire the "lifetime" appts of Abbass and Hanayeh -in other words NEW supervised open transparent free-elections (where's Jiminy Carter when you need him?) Everyone close your eyes swallow hard, and take your medicines.
12. "jewed, jew·ing, jews Offensive. 1. To bargain shrewdly...
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (04.26.14)
...or unfairly with. Often used with down. 2. To haggle so as to reduce (a price). Often used with down." -The Free Dictionary
13. There can't be a return to business as usual unless and ,,,
N.L.Katz ,   Qatzrin, Israel   (04.26.14)
.,.., until the Hamas - part of the coalition with the Fatah - adheres to all three requirements of the international community, i.e. UN, EU, US and Russia: 1) Accept Israel's RIGHT to exist 2) Cease all acts of terror and violence against Israel and decommission all illicit weapons, e.g. light arms, explosives, mortars, rockets 3) Adhere to all agreements reached with Israel and signed by the parties And, then, and only then, can the parties talk: Peace-for-Peace. P.S. And, while we are at it, it is high time the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) amended its Charter that it committed, in writing, to do 20 years ago. Lest it does so, the PLO Charter will continue to call for Israel's demise; for the "cleansing" of the ancestral homeland of the Jewish people of its Jews; and, for the use of all means to achieve these goals, terror and violence included. The US, incidentally, was a witness to the signature of this commitment that has never been fulfilled. Israel ought not be willing to deal with Hamas and the PLO until and unless both Charters are amended BEFORE all else, not after.....!!
14. Abbas and talks extension
Harold ,   USA   (04.26.14)
Abbas is fair and right. All countries of the world are backing the unity between Fatah and Hamas except one or two countries.
15. Dr.Shoah Denier may be right, seeing that absolutely nothing
tom ,   tel aviv   (04.26.14)
that the vile Religion of Peace does in the world can bring a significant change of attitude among the lobotomised Europeans & Americans alike. That old joke about crapping at your neighbor's door and then ringing the bell asking for paper is so working for the Fakestinians ; it almost has to be admired! (in a perverse way)
16. Hands up if you believe this statement from Abu Mazen
Alan ,   SA   (04.26.14)
Hamas would follow his political program, and work "under my orders and my policy",
17. I'm confused
frank ,   rehovot   (04.26.14)
If the terrorists can say they will never agree to recognize Israel and that is ok, but he is willing to continue the talks, why are we not saying: we also are willing to continue talks but we will not concede one inch of our eternal capital, there is no right of return, we will continue building, the terrorists must pay their bills and they are not allowed in Israel, including Judea and Samaria. Basically the same things that the terrorists are saying. Why can't we approach the "talks" on an equal plane? Why are these "talks" biased and slanted towards terrorists? They insist on equality, well let's start right here!
18. Abbas was, is, always will be a piece of dung.
David ,   Hartford USA   (04.26.14)
Holocaust 'expert' (what a joke), politician extraordinaire (bigger joke), and jihadist through and through (finally, the truth). The world has now seen Abbas for the duplicitous piece of filth that he is. Bibi must draw the borders and let Israel build wherever it needs to. Enough pandering to jihadist bullsh-t. The 'Palestinians' have had 65 years to get their act together and they haven't accomplished anything. Is there a more lazy, stupid, pathetic people on the planet? I think not. Annex Judea and Samaria and drag the poor, idiotic, lazy 'Palestinians' into the 21st century. Left to their own devices, they will accomplish nothing for the next 65 years, except make their leaders rich and kill a few Jews along the way. Abbas and Haniyeh have done nothing for their people- just enriched themselves. Did you see how fat Haniyeh is? Doesn't look like he's suffering too much in Gaza! Israel won all the wars. Israel must make the borders. Period.
19. Israel is a Jewish State
James ,   USA   (04.26.14)
Whether you want it or not. The UN, ICC, BDS will not help with the PA (Hamas) creating a make believe state and it will never be recognized by Israel because the votes are not there. Settlements will expand and no room will be left over for the dregs of the Middle East (meaning the PA leaders, not the good people wanting to just have a decent life) Sooner or later, due to frustration, the PA/ Hamas will lead/drag the Palestinians into a shooting war and the last of your ambitions will turn to dust. Your Arab league will not stand by you other than talk and Hezbollah will shoot a few missiles which will lead to a complete disaster for Lebanon. The best option for the PA is to shut its mouth up and stop leading innocent people.
20. Opportunity I Hope
Ed ,   USA   (04.26.14)
If Hamas does accept the conditions of the Quartet as has been hinted at by several sources, then this is a watershed moment and the ball truly is in Israel's court. If they don't then options to move forward are quite limited. Asking the Palestinians to declare Israel to be a Jewish state is ridiculous. I want actions in a signed agreement that protect Israel remaining as a Jewish state, i.e. an agreement that fixes borders and ends claims of right to return. Israel needs a peace treaty to protect the reality of it's status as a Jewish state, and doesn't need any other state to tell it what it already is.
21. no. 12 - that's the name of the game. Your side always loses
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22. Fatah and Hamas "Clean Break" unity is like a blood diamond
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (04.26.14)
23. Israel, at this stage, annex Area C with ensuring itself the
N.L.Katz ,   Qatzrin, Israel   (04.26.14)
right of first refusal for Areas B and A.
24. Expelling the Arabs to Jordan and Egypt is the only way for
Mario   (04.26.14)
real peace!
25. THIS JUST TOO FUNNY :))
les ,   canada   (04.26.14)
if bb would be Ben-Gurion, he would tell abbas the following. NO jerusalem, NO "right of return". Israel IS A JEWISH STATE. you stop all terrorist activities at once. after you except it, than we will "negotiate". :))
26. Deal-breaker
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (04.26.14)
"Abbas .... stressed he would never recognize Israel as a 'Jewish state.'" That's the quid pro quo. Without it, he gets nothing, and loses more. Time to end the charade. His ego has just made him slit the throat of any "Palestinian" aspirations to legitimate statehood. And no country which views Hamas as a terrorist organization is going to give the "Palestinians" a single dollar, sheqel or euro in aid. Let's just end the whole charade. Annex Judea and Samaria, and ship the Arabs therein to Jordan, or to Gaza. They will never be welcome in the Jewish State of Israel.
27. Nobody calls defeat victory like the aide guzzling Abbas
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (04.26.14)
12 not mine
28. Enough with the 20 year old deception by the Arabs. It is
N.L.Katz ,   Qatzrin, Israel   (04.26.14)
time to move on: to send the gangsters from Tunis back to Tunis, or alternatively to Gaza or Damascus; to annex Area C and retain the right to do the same with Areas A and B. We have been a playing thing in the hands of the gangsters of Ramallah for too long, for very too long indeed.
29. To nr 14 - Abbas a Holocaust Denier and Terrorist...
Alexander ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (04.26.14)
...is "fair" and "right" when the wants genocide on Jews and theft of the Jews' homeland? Are you on drugs or just plain stupid - or just evil? All countries support the unity deal? I beg to differ. The GOVERNMENTS do - not the peoples of the world. Don't confuse governments with civilians and the electorate. Most nations do not even have electorates since most nations are not democracies. Invoking the "majority argument" - "most governments oppose Israel and support the Arabs" doesn't change a few fundamental facts, namely, that Israel and the Jews are the historical and native population and owners of the land of Israel and Arabs and Moslems aren't, and that Jews/Israelis have historical and legal rights to claim all of Israel while Arabs and Moslems't don't, and Jews have just one single state and Arabs have 22 Arab states, and that Israel wants to live in peace while the Arabs want genocide on Jews, Israel is a democracy, while all Arab societies and states are dictatorships. Since "the world" has accepted massacres, genocides and civil wars for thousands of years - even after WW2 with little or no intervention, I wouldn't say that the "world" has any legitimacy to have any opinion on any matter of any kind involving morality, ethics and human decency. Besides -why do you personally care? Have you anti-Semites grave intellectual difficulties understanding that we are free human beings - slavery is over? You can "Think" whatever you wish - your racist genocidal ideology is no more legitimate than Israel's right to exist. Who gave you permission to be "superior" to the Jews or anyone else for that matter, and judge them?
30. Case closed!
Dr Ukas ,   Canada   (04.26.14)
What more is there to be said - no recognition of Israel as a Country - expell the so called Palestinians into Jordan or Iran!
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