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Israel, Palestinians at UN accuse each other of sabotaging peace
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Published: 30.04.14, 08:40
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1. Hamas has reiterated that it will never recognise Israel
CJK   (04.30.14)
mahmoud al-zahar, one of the top leaders of hamas, has reiterated that hamas will never recognise israel. given the continued absolute rejectionist position of hamas, israel will not resume negotiations, nor can the jewish state be expected to resume negotiations with the arab palestinians. those who demand that israel resume negotiations under these circumstances are clearly siding with the arabs against the jewish state.
2. Serry, there is not a "current 'one state reality' "
CJK   (04.30.14)
israel has not annexed the territory referred to as the west bank and has completely withdrawn from the gaza strip. the arab palestinians who reside in the territory of the west bank are ruled for the most part by the palestinian authority. the arab palestinians have their own government, indeed two of them, one in gaza, one in the west bank. both governments have their own judicial system, their own security forces, their own prisons, their own education system, their own media, their own foreign envoys. the gaza strip is ruled by the hamas terror organisation which is recognised as a de facto government. it has a terror force of twenty thousand men and is supplied with advanced weapons, including missiles by the terror state of iran. the territory of the west bank is in large part de facto autonomous. it has its own president, its own prime minister, its own representatives to large numbers of countries and to the united nations. its security forces are significant and are well trained by the united states.
3. both sides must compromise
mat ,   uk   (04.30.14)
what did the Palestinians compromise all they do is wanting one example release prisoners for peace ? what a joke Palestinians got use to asking and get some of what they ask Israel ask and what do they get F A and the saying it takes two to tango is right
4. This is not Tennis...Its the BLAME GAME!
Sammy ,   Newcastle   (04.30.14)
But the irony? NOBODY Wins Every evaluation of the Talks so far shows just how CLOSE they are to complete agreement But its as if they WANT the negotiations to stall So they are BOTH culpable and Palestinians and Israeli Publics have to DEMAND continuation of these negotiations WITH ONE VOICE So if Settlements are an excuse for Abbas - Netanyahu call his bluff and halt them So if 'Going Solo' in the UN are an excuse for Netanyahu - Abbas call his bluff and halt it But as for Hamas they MUST be kept OUT of this equation. They have their own fanatical agendas, their own corrupt ambitions, their own loyalties which are light years from those of Palestinians in the West Bank. All THEY want is for the Palestinians in the WEST BANK to BAIL THEM OUT We have to complete the negotiations for Palestinian Independence in the West Bank FIRST and ONLY WHEN PA and HAMAS agendas CONVERGE can there be any hope of a Formal Unification
5. BOWEN Beeb - Dont blow it
Sammy ,   Newcastle   (04.30.14)
You have a considerable experience and knowledge of the Mid East But yesterdays Piece was NOT your finest hour You don't need to resort to the old trickery we thought was done and dusted to give your piece gravitas Talk about almost grotesque caricatures...you managed to dig up to interview So you interview not an average Israeli but find a fundamentalist gun toting Settler about the Peace Process Then you interview a Palestinian Family living in a cave...whose allegedly illegal house was demolished - were we told the facts? Was the family forewarned? How and why was it deemed an illegal build? One specific case of a family in distress and your cameras positively indecent panning of his child to make a further grim point. But what did it have to do DIRECTLY with the Peace Process? Are these people representative of average views of either side or carefully selected by you to mislead? What do you expect but extreme language from BOTH? And disappointingly too you failed to report the ACTUAL FACTUAL realities of the Process that any clued up observer KNOWS That MOST issues have been resolved. That Palestinians and Israelis are closer at this point to reaching and Agreement than at ANY TIME since 1967. That there is greater and closer practical cooperation at every level since 1967 But sadly Too Blind to See.....?
6. The Pals are a joke. Wont even recognize Israel exists!
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (04.30.14)
They would keep killing themselves in even greater numbers if Israel wasn't around!! LOL!!!! Pathetic LOSERS!
7. Pals hate settlers but hate accepting Jewish state even more
Sam ,   Canada   (04.30.14)
Palestinians hate having the Jewish settlers move in which is why they want a freeze but they hate having to accept a Jewish (majority) Israel even more. Palestinians aren't going to overcome Israel anytime soon so they can anticipate many more Jewish neighbours moving in to the West Bank. The Palestinian idea of peace is that Israel hands over the country to them and the Jews disappear.
8. Re-arrest the Terrorists We Gave Them.
Reuven Brauner ,   Raanana, Israel   (04.30.14)
Dumbest move ever was to give these ingrates 80 murderous terrorists. For what? So they could just "talk" to us? And we fell for that. Now that the talks are dead, we must demand that these criminals be recaptured and returned to prison to fill out the sentences for their horrific crimes.
9. Israel released 3 lots of murderers what did they get back?
Mike   (04.30.14)
Palestinian unilateral moves in the UN specifically breaking the 9 month negotiations and efforts to extend,. Unity Pact with Hamas the Anti Peace and Anti Jew Party, plus all the usual Invective blaming Israel and anybody else they can think of for the failure to negotiate peace. .
10. Obama's/ Kerry's mission caused
GS ,   Germany   (04.30.14)
this situation. But you have crowned these two, USA, with every single vote. You'll be hold responsible for any possible new violence in Israel's borders your (from the beginning) failed american "peace-talks" may cause! Not Obama-Kerry alone are responsible. You deserve reliable people in Washington D.C.. Somebody trustworthy in the White House again. - Israel and the Arabs are mature enough to find ways and solutions to live side by side with each other. It needs time and a basic understanding of Near East's customs and habits. And much more has to be understood: Go into history and learn what Mohammed did to jewish tribes. Nothing has changed until this very day. Nothing. A Hussein Obama knows.
11. #9 don't blame the Arabs
(04.30.14)
Abbas said he would talk with Netanyahu, if Netanyahu released murderers. Netanyahu released the murderers, so Abbas kept his promise and talked to him. If you have a problem it should be with Netanyahu who released the murderers just so he could talk to a Holocaust denier.
12. #1 democracy
(04.30.14)
Enough condemning the Arabs for being democratic. Both PLO and Hamas have a Charter. PLO calls for destruction of Israel, Hamas for genocide of the Jews. Both Charters can be changed, but until they are changed, members of Hamas and PLO must follow them. How can you condemn al-Zahar for saying he is faithfully doing his job and representing his people? You should condemn Israeli politicians from Rabin to Netanyahu who say one thing to get elected, and then do something else, whether for money or to escape prosecution.
13. # 12 Or how about a biblical solution?
BUILD BABY BUILD !!!   (04.30.14)
Of no non Jews in Israel? Both Hamas and Fatah should determine their new leader by a 'roof toss' from atop Gaza's tallest building. Whoever survives wins all. And After ANNEXATION of all the disputed territories , REPATRIATE the little exploding darlings to Jordan.
14. HAMAS Charged at the Hague with
BUILD BABY BUILD!!!!   (04.30.14)
Crimes against Humanity. So, that must mean that the PA will also be joined in the charges as a confederate of HAMAS. Which means they are both charged as was the nazi henchmen tried and convicted earlier like Eichmann. Which one ( if not all ) will be hung by the neck until pronounced dead? Annex all the disputed areas and REPATRIATE all pals out of Israel to Jordan or, 'their original homeland.' which ISN'T Israel. BUILD MORE JEWISH ONLY HOMES FASTER!!! Lose the pals.
15. 6 not mine.
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (04.30.14)
16. 12
CJK   (05.01.14)
i appreciate your irony.
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