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Ya'alon calls for 'iron fist' against anti-Arab hate crime
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Published: 05.05.14, 17:22
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1. the real problem
(05.05.14)
A talented person like Boogy can only get so far in Israel. Earning only some tens of thousands of shekels each month with constant pressure, and then what do you do when you are finished? Retire unseen and unheard like Shamir and Ahrens? Or do you join the lecture and talking heads tour, earning millions for just babbling? To get those millions in the future you have to invest now, and that means attack the Jew. Ignore the dead Jews, ignore the physically assaulted Jews in Lod, Shiloah, Mount of Olives, French Hill and Road 443, ignore the tens of synagogues and Jew graves desecrated or the thousands of anti-Jew graffiti. The only thing that is important is a few, maybe less than ten, cases of graffiti (maybe drawn by the Jew, maybe by a Leftist) that insulted the Arab overlord. Once again, Jewish leaders take money to be dhimmi.
2. Against and for
Sjoerd van der Velde ,   Hoorn, Holland   (05.05.14)
Let us never/not commit war/genocide against a, more or/and mutiple people(s). When/if we study history, we know why (not). And (almost) all of us know, for example what "islam" meant/still means. Also. Israel, forever,ever and always!
3. total waste of recourses
zionist forever   (05.05.14)
Going to get the intelligence services spending their time investigating graffiti when they should be dealing with serious issues like security. You cannot stop the price tag because you just need a can of paint and a wall or an arab car to spray it on. Its carried out by individuals not gangs, you cannot protect walls and cars with locks and you have no idea where the criminals will strike next so this is a loosing battle the police & security services will be fighting as the dedicate their recourses to on graffiti and every minute sent investigating graffiti is a minute not being spent addressing security issues.
4. iron fist hate?!
yosef, phd ,   florida - israel   (05.05.14)
These Jewish teen-agers are not hooligans or bandits - they only express the pent-up impotence and total inaction, when falastyn mobs vandalize, assault, stone cars THEY KNOW TO TREATED WUTH IMPUNITY by the various Israeli power agencies, on direct orders of Bibi, who has become the yellow bellied sycophant . What a difference from hid great father,and also brother Yoni
5. yAALON the new PM of the 'palestinian' authority !
David   (05.05.14)
6. Defense Ministers statement re vandals
RAYS ,   NH, USA   (05.05.14)
BRAVO...this minister has his priorities right. Israeli vandals are a curse. There is no moral or legal excuse for such behavior. None. Zero. It is cowardly, stupid ,and damages the State at it's soul.
7. So Yaalon is saying
Chaim ,   Israel   (05.05.14)
Israel should use iron fist against Israeli Jews who want to hurt the enemy and deal with the Arab enemies with silk gloves. No wonder there are so many fallen soldiers.
8. I have yet to read a plausible ....
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (05.05.14)
... explanation as to how a Jew or several Jews can enter an Arab village in the dead of night, make their way to the mosque, deface that, set fire to the mosque door, slash a few tires, spray some graffiti on cars, and make their way out of the village without so much as rousing a single sleeping dog. And the Arab community had better back off the braggadocio and not-so-subtle threats of an escalated response. We'll escalate right back, and they probably won't like the outcome of that. But I await a believable explanation as to how someone can enter an Arab village or town, with its crazy-quilt streets, cul-de-sacs, dead-end roads and alleys without so much as a waking a sleeping dog. The only reason a dog would not bark is if he knows the scent of the person doing the roaming. So the best place to look for the culprits are in the affected towns themselves.
9. The oligarchy is dangerously out of touch
Levine   (05.05.14)
They've ended up believing their own lies, and in frustration they're seeking the easiest targets of their anger and aggression: the Jewish population of Israel. Israelis are still asleep though...
10. Iron fist
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (05.05.14)
And should, as I strongly believe, the evidence come to point to Arab agents provocateur as the guilty ones, can we assume that the Israeli government will punish them with an iron fist as well? Will we ignore shamefaced cries for mercy from the Arab sector? The Arabs want the Jews who are allegedly responsible to be taken out to the nearest tree with a rope. May we safely assume that we may drag Arab miscreants and agents provocateur out to a tree with a rope, too? Fair's fair.
11. Price tag
James ,   USA   (05.05.14)
Perhaps if the government stood shoulder to shoulder with its citizens instead of the US and stop releasing terrorists and hate mongrels, price tag attacks would slow down. After all, does the PA show moral value when they teach the children hatred. How else can that be fought. Peace talks have proven ridiculous.
12. How about "iron fist" response to Arab hate crime?
Jack ,   San Diego, USA   (05.05.14)
13. Price Tag
Alice ,   Israel/Canada   (05.05.14)
Had Israel used an iron fist with the extreme left,, we will not have had to deal today with a "Price Tag". Price Tag came out of frustations and injustice. As for Mme Livni, she should keep her mouth shut. This pathetic woman has a real getho mentatlity.
14. Take it easy Boogie, nobody REALLY meant the: "Light unto
tom ,   tel aviv   (05.05.14)
Nations". I'll rest perfectly content in my grave, knowing that I was just like every other, imperfect human on this wretched Planet! :-)
15. Easier said than done
Roland ,   London England   (05.05.14)
A dear one cannot be replaced Emotions in these instances can easily get out of hand as they are not under the control of normal thought and logic.
16. very few jews tag and arabs kill. Ya'alon shame on u !
(05.05.14)
17. Minors. Juveniles. Children. Iron Fist?
Gideon Reader   (05.05.14)
Really? An Iron fist? Against kids doing the stupid things that imature, dopey kids do? I like Bogie, but this is not his finest hour. Any acts of violence are subject to enforcement of statute. I understand that. I also understand that the "Price Tagging" is abhorent and not very jewish. But keep things in perspective. **IT'S GRAFITTI!!**. Not gunfire. Not stabbing. No garotting. No petrol bomb. It's spraying offensive words on a wall or daubing misspelled threats. Yes. It is damage to another's private property. It is offensive but,...Sheeesh! Get a grip.
18. yaalon is correct
milson   (05.05.14)
jews must be not copy arab terror via price tag. Rather they should develop self defence and martial capabilities and participate in anti-terror operations throughout the country. Burning a mosque or vandalizing cars doesn't accomplish anything. taking out a terror operative and being able to fight does. Israel is a terrific country. But don't go on about light unto nations and all that crap. look at olmert, livni, levy,v erter and marcus(these are chosen people???- these are bottom of the barrel drek). Do the right thing. As for all the haredi, do 2 hours daily for 5 days/week of boxing, fighting or weightlifting and be able to oppose any attack and not running to a corner and simply praying to GOd. It has taken 25000 israeli dead and 200,000 injured to develop some martial skills among israelis. But trhere are still too many pacifists like shas, the haredi, herzog and livni. In a twisted way, the arabs have done israel a favour at a terrible and savage cost. So you israelis, don't b e pacifists like livni, herzog and gal on and the despicable self hating jews, Incidently, Livin will not leave this governement as she will be out of ajob in the next elections and israelis massively reject her just as they rejected olmert. They want nothing to do with Livni's appeasmeent policies.
19. what nonesese....
les ,   canada   (05.06.14)
iron fist against jews, kid gloves against butchers, murdering inocent young girls, fathers, babies. political correctness will destroy israel.
20. Velvet glove for murderous "Palestinian" terrorists.
Chaim ,   Israel   (05.06.14)
Yaalon wants to use an iron fist on juveniles who scrawl graffiti and engage in petty vandalism. But continue using a velvet glove on murderous "Palestinian" terrorists. Especially the Holocaust denying mass murderer who leads the terrorist P.A.
21. Never forget Bogie who destroyed your lives on your land
Kerwood Derby ,   Frostbite Falls, MN   (05.06.14)
If I say any more, this won't be published. y'm'shm
22. Oh Boogie...the same strong fist
Rachel ,   SweetJerusalem   (05.06.14)
should be for ALL law breakers EQUALLY. That means not ONLY against Jewish suspects. Boogie, explain how murderers are allowed to continue to make plans and carry them out AFTER being released from jail just because they are MUSLIM ARABS?
23. Mr.Yaalon: start w.your words in own rows: Bennett,co,you HEATING UP STUPIDS on both sides
israel   (05.06.14)
24. To No. 10
Bertram ,   London, UK   (05.06.14)
I guess your belief that Arab agents provocateurs are the culprits is quite plausible. Certainly as plausible as the notion that you are a Hamas agent provocateur whose aim is to discredit Zionism.
25. PALLYWOOD AT WORK
Laurence ,   israel   (05.06.14)
"Despite hundreds of arrests, hardly anyone has been prosecuted, raising questions about the government's willingness to tackle the problem." Well the reason is very simple. The governement and the police are willing to prosecute them. However the justice can't condemn them because they are not guilty . In all cases the court quickly realize that there are no evidences that those arrexted are the authors. All these so-called price tags are staged by arabs themselves or leftists in a bid to accuse settlers of vandalism. YNET has published an article about that : http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3976976,00.html It is Pallywood in its more primary expression and everybody is so much brainwashed that they have lost any capability to analyse the situations: we are talking about graffitis written in hebrew and therefore everybody conclude that it is done by religious jews. No religious jews have been condemned until now however everybody accuse them. Actually the arabs or these leftists have succeeded in bringing decredit upon a segment of our population.
26. Is war a hate crime?
BUILD BABY BUILD!!!!   (05.06.14)
I don't think so. This is war and after so many years and so many attacks from pals on unarmed Jews what's a little 'pay back' delinquency in comparison? Why release convicted pal murderers then have the state go after these lesser crimes with an 'iron fist'? Can we say imbalance here? Persecute the terrorists and murderers to the full extent of the law or, you look foolish and unjust by taking out the states vengeance on the wrong people, YOURS! KEEP BUILDING !!!!! KEEP BUILDING !!!
27. To No. 26.
Bertram ,   London, UK.   (05.06.14)
So, if it is war, Palestinian attacks are justified. All's fair in love and war - right?
28. To: No. 24
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (05.06.14)
Bertram, if you can give me a plausible explanation as to how one or two Jews can enter an Arab village, make their way through the crazy-quilt of dead end streets, cul-de-sacs and alleys, deface a mosque and some cars with graffiti and slash tires on cars without alerting so much as a single dog and escape unnoticed, unseen and unheard ... I will acknowledge a different truth. So, tell me how such a thing is possible, will you? How does one do that in, say, Umm al Fahm, where the population is notoriously hostile to Jews and no Jew could escape with his life having done the alleged vandalism? Just tell me how. Has it occurred to you that the reason no dog barked, or so much as growled, is because it KNEW THE PERSON PERPETRATING THOSE ACTS? Ever been to Tverya, Bertram? Very popular vacation spot, with a boardwalk guaranteed to be crowded on a lovely spring day. How is it possible for a 14-year old Jewish boy (wearing a kipah and, no doubt, tzitziot) -- manage to attack an Arab woman with pepper spray -- an uncorroborated attack, despite the crowded nature of the boardwalk in Tverya -- and melt into the crowd, unseen by anyone except this woman? Strains credulity, does it not? Bertram, you are bending over backwards so far in your zeal and desire to believe that Jews are responsible that you are in danger of breaking. And it is the existence of Jews precisely like yourself that lends impetus for Arabs to continue such acts of vandalism. The response in the Jewish community is better than they could have hoped. You're a dupe, Bertram. Letting yourself get played like that. For shame! Do you always let the wool be pulled over your eyes so easily?
29. To: No. 27
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (05.06.14)
And if it's a war, Bertram, Israel is equally justified in doing what countries do in war, right? Which Israel can do with remarkable success and efficiency. And it can also be said that the "Palestinians" have never NOT declared war against Israel. So, would you argue that we should simply end the charade and send that hostile population which will NEVER change packing? Or would you prefer to see Israel simply dismantle itself? The former may happen, Bertie, but the latter NEVER will. I trust you understand this. But even our eternal patience is coming to an end. Have you noticed the polls? Israel is moving inexorably to the right. About time, too. Seven decades of not-so-peaceful coexistence with terrorist rabble has taught us something, after all.
30. To No. 28
Bertram ,   London, UK   (05.06.14)
A touch of desparation, on your part, Sarah. Allow me to put this simply. I hold to the view that no population is immune from producing criminals - Arabs, Jews, Americans, Chinese .....etc. So, in theory, you are right. Arabs could well have committed these acts of vandalism. And if that is the case they should be prosecuted with the full force of the law. However, as a lawyer, and leaving your own political position aside, would you not admit there is possibly a prima facie case that some people from the Jewish community committed these acts? And that needs to be investigated first?
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