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Conversion to Judaism is the answer
Lawrence J. Epstein
Published: 09.05.14, 21:13
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31. Judasim became ossified
Vered, Israel   (05.11.14)
The main problem with this argument is that wides swaths of the population have moved beyond religious practice, seeing it as not necessary. Why? Because the question has changed from, "Does Judaism permit this?" to "How can I be a good person?" Only Jewish practices that answer the second question are appealing to outsiders.
32. 31 Vered, Jews have not the exclusivity
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (05.11.14)
of goodness. Jews are meant to be a light unto the nations.The Tora has influenced all the modern civilisations. A South Korean delegation visited lately the Ponjewitsch Yeshiva to discover what makes Jews so smart.
33. #30 Jews have 3000 yr history
Professor ,   Israel   (05.11.14)
Israel has 3000 yr history Torah has 3000 yr history "Orthodox" have 2 centuries of history Yeah, you claim your prayer intermediaries are the "saviors" of Israel too. Little Jesuses running around Yours is a short history
34. In the 1960's, a prominent magazine
Reuven   (05.11.14)
ran an article: "The Disappearing American Jew." But the number of Jews has actually slightly risen. However, the idea of conversion, if overseen by Orthodox rabbis, is a good one. With DNA testing, we should also consider those of patrilineal descent as Jews.
35. 33 Jews were keeping the Tora laws...
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (05.11.14)
and praying "Shema Ysrael"during 3000 years.
36. Conversion
Sjoerd van der Velde ,   HOORN   (05.11.14)
Conversion to every/any religion has to happen voluntarily, everywhere and always. Also, Israel, forever, ever and always!
37. Conversion ??
Pinchas ,   Holland   (05.11.14)
Judaism is not about numbers but about quality. Totally against such a rubbish article. This whole world was created for at least one man (Adam) that will keep the Mitsvot. 1 person is the minimum. We don't need "gerim" that can be called Jewish, but continue to live their heathen ways of living, desecrating Shabbat and Kashrut and Taharat haMishpacha, destroying the creation and the cosmic balance of Mitsvot and Aweirot , towards the increase of deliberate Aveirot. And in the time of Moshiach the gates to Giyur WILL be closed, may it be today so that we will have moshiach today .
38. 35 Yep. They were Torah Jews, NOT Orthodox
Professor ,   Israel   (05.11.14)
39. #11 A comprehension problem
Moshe ,   Israel   (05.11.14)
You need urgently improve your rapport ability. The article is about US Jews and their intermarriage. No one in Israel is preaching to convert non-Jews here, so calm down.
40. Re DNA and Patrilineal Descent
Nicole Czarnecki ,   B'Gault   (05.11.14)
Amein, and Patrilineal Descent was the primary way that Jewishness was traced prior to Talmudic Judaism. We see the exceptions noted with ben-Shelomit HaDanit, the Hirams (the one whose mother was a Danit, the other whose mother was a Naftalit), and Kalev ben Yefuneh HaKenizi (whose mother was a Yehudit).
41. 'Making conversion to Judaism more convenient
Sherlock Holmes ,   London England   (05.11.14)
Conversion to Judaism is not a matter of convenience, and combining conversion with aliyah is over the top. Conversion means accepting the yoke of the Kingdom of Heaven, not an easy matter. Most of the 'convenient' American conversions are not accepted by the Israeli Rabbinate, making aliyah is often not at all convenient. If 72% of American Reform Jews marry 'unconverted' Gentiles, it looks like conversion has not been a success to date, not even 'convenient' Reform conversions.
42. Which planet is this guy living on?
iselin ,   oslo   (05.11.14)
Does he really think his idea will work? Good grief, is he naive. Religion is based on superstition and submission. No rational human being who thinks needs this. The bunker mentality no longer prevails among modern assimilated Jews in most societies. They do not need religion for support or protection. And when they don't believe in all the prohibitions and dictates on life that are inherent in Judaism, the religion becomes superfluous. My parents sent me to a conservative Sunday school in the deep south US, and by the age of 9, I knew that I could never swallow all that religious stuff I was being fed. Being a secular humanist is perfect for me, my lifestyle and my psyche. My parents realized that, too, and when they retired to a new place, they enjoyed their unaffiliation. We were finally free from religion.
43. 30 Some other religions are older...
Robert ,   antwerp belgium   (05.11.14)
like Hindouism, Boudhism and managed to grow more. Islam also grew more as well as Christianism. Judaism did not try to convert other peoples but rather pushed them away.The question is wether it is because God willed it or because our sages thought God doesn't want us to convert. Only God knows but the results are that the Jewish people is losing thousands of people through intermarriage instead of winning some. So the question our sages could ask is wether it is really that what God wants
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bisa ,   jerusalem   (05.12.14)
you are right but realy most of the peopledo not have deep or serouse thinking about religion here in israil or evry where in the world -- religion is not the aim but the way to be ...
45. Different standards for converts vs genetic Jews is racism!
Paqid Yirmeyahu ,   www.netzarim.co.il   (05.12.14)
Esau, Jacob's twin from the same mother, has always been, and shall always be, the inescapable proof that the family, and nation, of Israel was originally defined NOT by racism but by the family spiritual values that were refined over the ages into the Torah codified -- written -- by Mosheh at Har Sinai. There are innumerable instances of gentiles who have converted, becoming Jews. They are Jews, NOT "converts." There has never been a "convert" in Judaism. Geirim were originally defined as transitional trainees -- the non-Jews who are in classes to learn enough Torah to convert. But, after conversion, they are Jews, NOT "converts"! As far as "watering down" Judaism, the infinitesimal number of Jews by choice who ignore Torah is negligible compared to the multitudes and multitudes of genetic "Jews" who ignore, and often blatantly deny and reject, Torah. They are, literally, several million times more responsible for "watering down" Judaism than a handful of "converts" -- most of them being more "religious" than genetic "Jews"! Wake up and smell the coffee. Differentiating in ANY way between a Jew by choice and any other Jew is racism. (The distinction Talmud makes, by contrast to modern rabbis who have lost their Way, is between the geir -- pre-conversion trainee in transition -- and Israel as 2 different strata, both within the family of Israel. There has always been, and will always be debate over interpretation. Not only is debate healthy, debate is essential to prevent stagnation; and tolerance of differing opinions vital to adapting to a dynamic world and advancing science and technology. Rabbinic intolerance of these things is responsible for the stagnation of rabbinicism, which is invalidly being peddled as Torah / halakhah. EVERY person who tries their best to keep written Torah belongs to the family of Israel and EVERY person -- including genetic "Jews" -- who does not do his or her best to keep written Torah does NOT belong to the family of Israel! The Creator, Y--H, is NOT a racist! Jewish racism is not one whit better than the Nazi racism.
46. ease requests¡¡
Каролъ Антоновіч ,   варселона   (05.13.14)
then people like me who admires Israel and wants to convert to judaism like me will not become fed up about the whole process¡¡¡
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