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Ramat Gan rabbi: Don't rent apartments to lesbians
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Published: 15.05.14, 02:43
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1. his comments are very dangerous
gays4Israel   (05.15.14)
2. What about slumber parties?
mea   (05.15.14)
I don't know about the other posters but it doesn't take me all night to have sex, so if I wanted to have a. a lesbian lover, b. an extra-martial affair, c. a fling, d. film a movie, I could in theory rent from this rabbi. How would he know? See this is why he should stick to the basics and encourage people to know the rules and regs and not try to actually physically control people.
3. Respect, people of the Holy One,
Dorothea Killus ,   Germany   (05.15.14)
that you have still those among you who can differenciate between healthy and perverted! Of course, the remedy has to begin at the roots, and hopefully there are also those in Israel who are ready to be instruments in our Creator's hand for healing, which comes only by the One who is also a most gracious Redeemer.
4. Beware the ayatollas
gp ,   Tel Aviv   (05.15.14)
This, folks, is your future. These Islamic-style nutters are not just insignificant cults. From the once 13% of the population they are now 20% and rising..... Their agenda is no different to those in Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan, to go back to an earlier century. It was known then as the Dark Ages. Spooky, but becoming more of a reality every day.
5. Evolutionary challenged.....
History nut ,   Israel   (05.15.14)
In this case the lesbians, not the rabbi.
6. And what about gay men?
David ,   Hartford USA   (05.15.14)
Some of my best friends are gay yeshiva students. Of course we have to play the 'straight' game to please the rabbis, but that's the price we pay for having such closed-minded leaders of the yeshiva community. It's time they opened their minds.
7. Followers of the Imaginary Friend never fail to put finger
tom ,   tel aviv   (05.15.14)
on the truly important issues of human existence.He too shall one day be deemed "Great of the Sages"; such ruling should grant him that automatically. "Homo Sapiens", somebody said?
8. Carpet munchers. Let's find something more important
Shadoil79 ,   Jerusalem   (05.15.14)
To argue about with the religious.
9. This "Rabbi"
Sagi   (05.15.14)
would not share my water canteen in the middle of the scorching desert.
10. If it is forbidden to rent to lesbians
Philip Barnett ,   London , UK   (05.15.14)
is it OK to rent to gays? Doesn't this rabbi have anything else to do rather than issuing edicts against the children of God? Another loony Ayatollah in Israel juicing up the state , go get a life you parasite!!!
11. No legislation necessary - just fire the guy!
Ehud   (05.15.14)
12. I fail to understand what their sexual
Israeli 2   (05.15.14)
orientation has to do with anyone renting an apartment to them? I honestly cannot grasp that? Is this in the Torah anywhere? Halacha perhaps? Unless there is a law to expel all homosexuals from Israel, what did the rabbi base his decision on?
13. Backward characters
Philip ,   Afula, Israel   (05.15.14)
Get these stone aged primitive clowns off the government payroll. They are just a waste of time money and space.
14. great news
(05.15.14)
I agree with Livni: any discrimination should be a criminal offense. A few years ago, the Hebrew University wanted to sell unused dormitories in Kiryat Yovel. The highest bidder was a Haredi. The Hebrew University refused to sell to the Haredi because he was Haredi. Livni and the Justice Ministry should immediately launch an investigation as to what happened and jail the racist Hebrew University officers who made the racist decision.
15. 10 The Rabbi answered a question
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (05.15.14)
of one of his followers. Why do you think he is not allowed to give his opinion like everybody else, because it differs from yours or because he is a Rabbi? Who is discriminating here?
16. This article is pure incitement!
K ,   Israel   (05.15.14)
The question specifically asked if there was a religious prohibition and the Rabbi answered by giving a religious opinion. What is the problem? Discrimination has nothing to do with it, it's not personal, just obviously based on avoiding being an "accomplice" to a sin according to Jewish law. But of course corrupt Ynet won't allow the facts to confuse them, and probably won't even print this talkback.
17. He's PROOF POSITIVE: half of all rabbi's are below average
DAVEZ ,   America is beautiful   (05.15.14)
here's the perfect example of a complete failure of a rabbi.... a shallow myopic dinosaur, a sexist bigot who needs to be stripped of all authority and sent back to his Torah studies cause he hasn't learned a damned thing about discrimination, freedom, democracy and empathy.... He needs a good hard head banging slap in the face!
18. discrimination is criminal ...SO WHY IS HE NOT BEHIND BARS?
JEW HOVER ,   ATLANTA GA USA   (05.15.14)
A criminal act by a rabbi in Israel is tantamount and treated as less thana schoolboy prank, no matter how bigotted, criminal or whatever....these guys GET AWAY WITH MURDER (of the democratic rights of ALL CITIZENS... defrock them and expell these criminal bigots!
19. CAN A RABBI BE AN ASSH*#LE?
Jewjewbee ,   Brookhaven ,GA   (05.15.14)
EVIDENTLY! And a flaming one at that!
20. Incentives for Reform of Housing Law
Joe ,   West Bank   (05.15.14)
Now that the Rabbi of Ramat Gan has issued his ruling against renting to lesbians, coupled with the existing Rabbinical rulings against renting to gay men and to gentiles, its time for the Knesset to set our house in order.
21. the real question is
Larry ,   LA (formerly)   (05.15.14)
just how much right does the owner have to exercise his personal preferences versus the law. for certain a religious person would not want to rent his apt to a non religious person for fear of getting his dishes treifed up. That is certain a real fear.
22. As an Orthodox Jew...
Avinoam ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (05.15.14)
...I feel shame at this heartless, insensitive 'ruling'.
23. Ramat Gan Rabbi, No. 3, Dorothea
Dr. Chaim Bernard ,   Tel-Aviv, Israel   (05.15.14)
all we neede is a religious nut from Germany to teach us about morals. Dorothea: take you medication and keep your unsolicited fantacism (by the way: the sentence "remedy to begin at the roots" is a quote from your compatriot's Mein Kampf).
24. Private vs government
Ephraim ,   Jerusalem   (05.15.14)
The problem is not a Rabbi or a Lesbian couple. The problem is that our inept government does build rental properties. In the United States, there are laws against discrimination, but only for owners of buildings with more than a certain amount of rental units (either 2 or more or 4 or more units depending on which state). The biggest problem with rental laws and prices in Israel is that there are no apartment buildings that were built solely for rent, Each apartment is privately owned. If a person or company has an entire apartment building for rental and income purposes, he/she/it is now allowed to discriminate. If a person owns one apartment, he or she can choose to rent or not to rent to anyone. That makes sense. All the blame here is on the inept state of Israel for not building rental dwellings. No one, including the court or the government should have any right to tell me or anyone else what do with MY apartment. You want apartments for Lesbians, Charedim, Arabs, Jews or Martians, then let the state build them and make whatever laws they like.
25. Abolish the rabbinate!
nadav ,   TLV   (05.15.14)
WHY on earth do Israeli cities need "chief rabbis"?! What sort of medieval tomfoolery is this? And what's worse, this half wit is paid with taxpayer money and spews digusting hatred against tax paying citizens!! !How is this allowed! he should be immediately fired. Discrimination of this kind should be outlawed so that next time someone of his ilk does the same, he can be fiend and jailed. Finally, it is high time that Israel separate religion from state- fully and permanently! Orthodox Judaism is neither the majority in Israel nor by any means in the world and they should NOT have a government sanctioned & funded choke-hold on the lives of Israeli citizens! enough is enough!
26. The offence
Sagi   (05.15.14)
It is called incitement to commit a criminal offence. He should be formally charged by the police and brought to trial. Punishment should be maximum for this offence in order to set an example.
27. Gays and lesbian
Edouard ,   Montreal Canada   (05.15.14)
I preferred to rent my app to gays and lesbians then to this orthodox We know that gays and lesbians are normal individual and normal citizens What exactly this rabbis do for israel and for the Jews and what is they contribution???? Ho yes I forgot ......they exploit other people under the pretension of being better Jews Sorry They are better manipulators Stop this !, out if israel, out of our houses, stop telling us what todo or not Religious are just parasits of the Israeli society
28. Who would rent to Haredim....
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (05.15.14)
of the very same people who blame the Rabbi ? Possibly Sagi?
29. The face of judaism, rabbis.
Jim   (05.16.14)
30. Immoral indicators....
History nut ,   Israel   (05.16.14)
How does mankind, in less than a century, devolve to such enlightenment?
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