Opinion  Noah Klieger
Let's face it, our neighbors are not like us
Noah Klieger
Published: 18.06.14, 00:39
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1. I do not forgive you
Mike S. ,   Phoenix, USA   (06.18.14)
for the minutes I waisted reading this
2. israel would have less terrror if it asserts itself
asher   (06.18.14)
abbas'wife can be taken for a trade along with haniyeh's relations and many others. You want to survive in themiddle east, you have to cover yourself and fight dirty- which is the language of the middle east. As for betselem, zoabi and ashton, all of them can go to bloody hell cause that is where they belong. There is a reasonable chance that the 3 boys are dead. Instead of calling for rhetorical denunciations, israel should eliminate the entire leadership of hamas, boot fatah back to tunnis and annex the west bank- case closed.
3. Back to Algiers
Aaron ,   Toronto,Canada   (06.18.14)
Why do you keep repeating yourself with the same garbage, we know the PA are all garbage and should be sent packing once and for all back to Algiers.
4. sick arabs
ik ,   USA   (06.18.14)
What;s the matter? Are their no hospitals in all of araby? Or are their 3rd Century skills inadequate?
5. Foolish politics
Lenny ,   Nyc   (06.18.14)
For Israel not to use mrs Abbas as a Tool to bring back tge kids Us the most foolish thing I ever heard of. Politics is not more important than three Lovely jewish kids. Bibi blood may be on your hands again!
6. Historically unprecedented lunacy of supporting foes.
Chaim ,   Israel   (06.18.14)
The author makes a good point; though he puts it far too mildly. In all of human history; no other state has ever adopted the lunatic policy of supporting its foes. No matter what atrocities "Palestinians" commit against Israel; they can still rely on Israeli food, money, electricity, materials, work permits etc. I urge everyone who loves Israel to demand that Fictional Palestine be immediately cut off forever.
7. Want to be a sucker, you'll be a sucker!
tiki ,   belgium   (06.18.14)
Stop complaining, but act differently! People have choices, so do politicians!
8. LET'S FACE IT
Gee ,   Jerusalem   (06.18.14)
IF ANY OF THE MEASURES PROPOSED IN THIS FORUM WERE TO BE IMPLEMENTED, THIS WOULD CAUSE MAJOR INTERNATIONAL UPROAR. PERHAPS IT'S TIME TO ADMIT NOBODY LIKES US WHATEVER WE DO AND FOR OWN GOOD, STOP TRYING TO PLEASE THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY
9. Palestinian Abbas
henry ,   manila   (06.18.14)
It is naive, foolish and stupid to believe that Jews can make a long term deal with and be loved by Muslims. Muslims - all of them - will be the enemies of the Jews until the end of this world as we know it, that is, when the Messiah returns and change the whole face of the world and the hearts of its tenants. Too bad we all have to face the worst punishment ever from God. A second holocaust for the Jews and the destruction of every single thing that man has been just too proud of.
10. No one is like us!
Avi ,   NYC, USA   (06.18.14)
No other nation has the Talmud and it's incitement ("hatov shebagoyim harog") on one hand, and a mighty Hasbara apparatus that prevents discussing it, on the other hand.
11. Yes, we are "frierim" (suckers).
Wise Saba ,   Israel   (06.18.14)
No more medical treatment, electricity, water or any other services to the arabs in Yehuda, Shomron & Gaza for any reason until our boys are home safe & sound.
12. Maybe because we've came to believe our own hype about being
tom ,   tel aviv   (06.18.14)
a "Light unto Nations"? Maybe because we desperately want the world to love us? Who cares..?
13. Indeed we are suckers and I'm sick of it
(06.18.14)
Not only that we treated Abbas' wife, we continuously treat hundreds of people from Syria. At first it was a few people here and there wounded in the battles there but now, as I've heard, we treat Syrians with all kind of medical problems that have nothing to do with the fighting that is going on in their country. Every Syrian who feels like getting a free moderm medical treatment from the state of Israel just crosses the border. He/she knows that we Israelis will not hurt them. On the contrary, the soldiers pick them up and deliver them to one of the Israeli hospitals in the north where the state of Israel gives them free of charge excellent medical treatment, while we Israelis pay dearly for the treatment we get, and we also have to pay the millions of shekels the treatment of the Syrians cost. I don't mind if there were Syrians who were really taking part of the fightings who were desperate with no where to go who turned to Israel, but now it turned to - you're a Syrian and want to get a free of charge medical treatment in a modern hospital? no problem, go south to Israel, the suckers give it for free.
14. We are the good guys
Dave ,   Montreal, Canada   (06.18.14)
This is what makes us different. We have to holder ourselves to a higher accountability if we are to maintain moral superiority. As tempting as it is, we must never sink to their level, or we will become our own enemy.
15. Hamas and Fatah
Sherlock Holmes ,   London England   (06.18.14)
If Hamas, who oppose Fatah and Abbas, abducted the three boys, why would they care about Madame Abbas? When Hamas took over Gaza they murdered the Fatah elected officials.
16. Stating the obvious
TINSC ,   Fairbanks, AK   (06.18.14)
When it comes to a thesis called "Our Neighbors are Not Like Us", the author could have also mentioned SYRIA. While Human Rights organizations are culpable as stated, I place a lot of blame on the news media for over-reporting HRO reports on events "caused by Israel" and never reporting on these organizations' reports events in Arab League and OIC countries. Human Rights organizations DO report negative events in these countries, but the news media rarely mentions them. Events "caused by Israel" are routinely AMPLIFIED by news media reports. In all fairness, I think that aspect needs to be considered.
17. bloodstained hands
robert ,   Antwerp belgium   (06.18.14)
What do we expect ? All the peoples around Israel have a recent bloody history . Civil war in Syria and Irak now, civil war in Lebanon before with hatred still smoldering between chias and sunnis, the wars between Iran and Irak...The only reason the Palestinians of hamas and the Fatah are not at each other throats is because Israel is there to police them. Israel has to remain strong and united and with God's help we will survive while our ennemies fight among themselves
18. 8 rabbis say everyone envies us, wants to convert, marry us
Logician ,   Israel   (06.18.14)
which extreme is it? Could both be over the top?
19. Sick Arabs...You seem Like a SICK Jew..
Hamad ,   amman   (06.18.14)
take Abbas..and keep him..He is Israels' YES man..
20. Avi @ 10 - Amen !!! ,...
split ,   US   (06.18.14)
21. Obviously, they and their ancestors were born there ,...
split ,   US   (06.18.14)
I'm reading 'My Promised Land: The Triumph and Tragedy of Israel' by Ari Shavit where he exposes the Zionists for what they used to be and really are I think you should read it too.
22. To all of you pointing a finger and blaming Palis ,...
split ,   US   (06.18.14)
It's not the Palis it's you!!! You're the ones with record of backstabbing your hosts, of countless invasions and being expelled wherever you managed to settle, it's due to the lack of your co-existence skills, your attitude and conduct, not Palis ,...
23. Good, Evil, and Temple Mount
Yoelarry ,   New York USA   (06.18.14)
The Evil genie is out of the Bottle. It all began in 1967 when the Israeli Forces reclaimed all of Jerusalem but in a moment of weakness and misguided secular-Jewish largesse decided to allow the Muslim's Al Aksa Mosque to remain undisturbed on Temple Mount. Temple Mount is a Spiritual Vortex, given to the Jewish Nation to safeguard by the Holy ONE, the Omnipotent Force of all Forces in the Universe, with strict instructions as to what is allowed and forbidden on this most Awesome and powerful Spiritual Powerplant on planet earth. The Jewish People have no Spiritual claim to the Holy Land when they do not fulfill their 'part of the bargain', that is, their G-d given responsibility under the Covenant to serve as Custodians of the Mount. In effect, fulfilling that responsibility, more than any historical claims or 'legal' titles of ownership is what gives legitimacy to the Jewish possession of Jerusalem and the Holy Land. On a deep and subconscious spiritual level this truth is felt if not understood not only by the European Union and United Nations but particularly by our half brothers in the Muslim world who have rightfully concluded the weakness and spiritual faithlessness of the Jewish Nation in spurning G-d's Will. Their fraudulent possession of Temple Mount and the Israeli Government's complicity in reinforcing of this fraud by officially forbidding any Jewish prayer or even for Jews to set foot there has caused a world-shattering metaphysical imbalance, a short-circuit so to speak. Since 1967 the cancer of Radical Islam has metastasized world-wide, threatening every civilization with physical and spiritual destruction. The 9-11 attacks, Islamic unrest and Sharia in Europe, everywhere Islam has a presence, the dread and unspeakable menace of two nuclear armed Islamic States, Pakistan and soon Iran just to name a very few nightmares. Is this a coincidence? Is it a coincidence that all three major religions hold Jerusalem as sacred ground to be fought and died for? A coincidence that Jerusalem is never mentioned in Islam's holiest book, Koran, yet thousands of times in Jewish Scripture! The truth is that nothing can stop this Cancer from spreading. Not Armed forces, Drone assassinations, Civil laws or security checkpoints. Not even the false panacea of a 'successful' political settlement with Arab Palestinians in Judea/Samaria for 'Palestinian' Statehood there will turn the tide and return the 'Genie' to the 'box'. Those are nothing but band-aids on soon-to-be terminal cancer. And more and more as the nations of the world, including formerly friendly ones in European Capitols and Washington D.C. Quietly have begun to openly question the merits, even the 'legitimacy' of the Jewish State, the situation facing Israel has become dire. Far worse than Iranian nukes is this other threat. Sadly, more and more American Jews have come to question Israeli status in that region. The BDS movement grows on American University campuses, most troubling as it now includes growing numbers of young liberal Jewish students, men and women. Militarily, politically, philosophically, morally ...Israel is becoming weakened on many fronts. It is not certain the Jewish State can survive much longer under the expanded front. Unless...The Jewish Nation will do what should have been done in 1967. Remove the Al Aksa from Temple Mount. Restore the balance to the Spiritual Vortex as was intended by the Holy ONE. There Is No Other Way. Yes, it will be painful. The region and world will bleed with Muslim fury and world-violence. For a while. And then, the cancer will die as the Genie of Spiritual imbalance is returned to the Bottle. There Is No Other Way. And Time Is Running Out. Yoelarry KOZMAN
24. #3 and #4 in reality you are both the sick garbage.
Cualquiere ,   Los Angles   (06.18.14)
25. You love their money and steal their land.
Why?   (06.18.14)
26. Mabe returning her was our revenge on Abu Adolf Mazen?!
tom ,   tel aviv   (06.18.14)
27. We are not so suckers
Moshe ,   Israel   (06.19.14)
Too bad that the author does not distinguish between Fatahh and Hhamas. As announced by our prime minister, the abduction of the 3 teens performed by the second organization. Moreover, the PA security forces cooperate with the Israelis in search of the kidnapped. As concerns Abbas wife's hospitalization, let us not forget that Palestinian security police returns routinely to Israel its citizens who enter mistakenly to PA territory, and does not arrest them for bargaining chips. This, despite being PA Israel's fervent enemy.
28. This only proves one thing :
barbara ,   Haifa Israel   (06.18.14)
Israelis are human - Arabs are animals.
29. #27. Fatah is even worse than Hamas.
Chaim ,   Israel   (06.19.14)
Fatah and Hamas are both genocidal terrorist groups. The difference is that Fatah has maimed and murdered far more Israelis than Hamas. Plus the fact that Fatah speaks of its genocidal plans mainly in Arabic. Hamas; in all languages. Fatah is even worse than Hamas.
30. #23. Correct about Temple Mount. Wrong about BDS.
Chaim ,   Israel   (06.19.14)
Israel must indeed assert full sovereignty over our Temple Mount. You are correct. BDS is going nowhere. Such boycotts have been in force since Israel was founded. And every year Israel grows richer, stronger and more wonderful. The idea of defeating Holocaust survivors through economic blackmail is ludicrous. BDSers are as dumb as they are evil. And criminal; for which they should be prosecuted and sued.
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