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'Shrapnel in Israel's backside' is bleeding
Yariv Oppenheimer
Published: 18.06.14, 08:30
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1. a broken record courtesy of the EU.
Michael   (06.18.14)
2. @Lani Lowell the 1 in dreamland is you!
Israel ,   Israel   (06.18.14)
and all of the rest of the Israeli-Jewish residents over the Green Line. You won't hitchhike in the middle of Harlem or Watts or Toulouse so why are you & your children hitchhiking in the West Bank? I am tired of your tantrums and endless blaming and finger pointing at others. Your "blaming forward" makes it psychologically easier for you to continue shirking responsibility for your choices and your behaviors...Man up already take responsibility for your beliefs and actions and hitchhiking!
3. are you the voice of the kidnappers?
jorge ,   brazil   (06.18.14)
4. Ignoring the real blame
Zev ,   Israel   (06.18.14)
The left will never recognize their mistakes.
5. Yariv Oppenheimer's Op-Ed
henry ,   manila   (06.18.14)
There is another angle from which we should look at present events. The escalation of hostilities, the apparent errors in decision-making, the hatred, the almost universal condemnation of Israeli policies, the return of Jews from exile, the threats of annihilation and all the rest that is happening to Jews worldwide is just part of the prophetic message written thousands of years ago that in the end times all these things will happen. The second holocaust is right at the door. I can only pray for the land and stubborn nation of Jesus Christ.
6. Incitement in the Palestinian Authority
Don ,   Tel Aviv   (06.18.14)
Incitement in the Palestinian Authority is NOT to blame, Yariv? You are more confused than I thought previously.
7. Yariv Oppenheimer is naive
Andi ,   Haifa, Israel   (06.18.14)
Before Yariv writes us articles, he should brush up on current Palestinian government thinking. He can do this by reading articles from the Palestinian press, on the web site: Palestinian Media Watch. There he will see clear evidence in Palestinian media of the ongoing Destroy-Israel campaign promulgated by the Palestinian Authority - in newspapers, TV, and additional media outlets.
8. Oh please ...
LR ,   Afula, Israel   (06.18.14)
Palestinian despair??? Since when did they need any reason for killing, abducting, maiming, etc, etc? The Muslim hate machine against anything not Muslim (ooops, Sunni / Shiite?) has been running full steam since long before these kids were kidnapped by today's modern-era barbarians. The perpetrators of this act and thousands of others are the outgrowth of a sick Arab society floundering about civilization with no moral compass or civil values. You think I'm wrong? Then please present to the world ONE Muslim leader who has the balls, morality and values to denounce his own people's barbarity.
9. Oppenheimer
(06.18.14)
Oppenheimer is wrong on so many levels. The fact that he has to lie to make his point, proves that he knows he is wrong and the Zionists are right. He says that Israel is unwilling to compromise, but that is a blood-libel. The negotiations were run by ultra-Leftist Livni with Netanyahu's blessing. Oppenheimer cannot point to even one thing that Netanyahu wasn't willing to compromise. The only request he made, that Abbas rejected, was that the deal would lead to an end of the conflict. Oppenheimer is damning the Jew because he doesn't agree to give up everything for nothing in return. As for Arab "loss of hope", what "loss of hope"? Israel has never been so isolated as now, even the US and European governments are rabidly anti-Israel and BDS is stronger than ever. Israel has made endless concessions, yet is blamed for everything. Abbas has violated every agreement and understanding, yet is still treated with understandings. Even when he joined forces with the genocidal Hamas, Obama, Europe and Oppenheimer support him and blame the Jew.
10. Mr. Oppenheimer's Mistake.
Reuven Brauner ,   Raanana, Israel   (06.18.14)
There is no Israeli occupation. That assumes that our presence in the Land of Israel is unjustified. By making the simple statement that there is an "occupation", Mr. O. fails to accept the historic reality that this country has been Jewish for three thousand years. That we had been unable to re-occupy it ourselves was never a relinquishment of our desire to return home. In the Jewish eyes, it is the Arabs who are the occupiers. As Rabbi S.R. Hirsch stated, "We may not always possess it, but we own it."
11. 7 years of what?
wise ,   europe   (06.18.14)
"Seven years of calm, in which we could have improved our relations with the Palestinians and reached a peace agreement, were wasted" ... ???????????????????????????? what 7 years? when it was, i missed this peace period !!!!
12. It Takes 2 to Tango
Michel Cohen ,   Beer Sheva, Israel   (06.18.14)
Yariv, You speak of our failures and lack of concessions. What have the Palestinians done to further peace? What concessions have they made?They are not even willing to recognize our right to exist! Why do you only judge our actions? Negotiations is not one side giving everything away. Negotiations is a give and take procedure by both sides, not one side giving and the other side taking.
13. Peace never
Joel ,   Englewood   (06.18.14)
What will it take to realize that the Palestinians are not looking for peace they are in fact looking for a one state solution that is just another Muslim state which excludes all Jews both left and right .the jewish state can only survive with peace through strength.land for peace weakens our the jewish state Wake up
14. this article
R.D.   (06.18.14)
This article and the 1st couple of talk backs come from angry uneducated minds! When will you and the rest of the left wing extremists understand that both Fatah and Hamas are terrorists organizations which are out to destroy the state of Israel! Aren't 20 years of the Oslo fiasco enough to teach you something? If you are really so concerned about the so called Palestinians aka terrorists go and join them in Gaza! Why should Israel take responsibility to force feed those on hunger strike? No one forced that on them it's their choice!! Israel does far too much for the terrorists held in jails as it is. The people needing to wake up from their stupor and stop wining are the likes of Yariv Oppenheimer and Peace Now.
15. To No. 2.
Bertram ,   London, UK   (06.18.14)
You know why settlers would hitchhike on the West Bank. At the core, it is their belief in their absolute right of ownership of the West Bank, which obviously does not apply to Harlem, Watts, etc. Consequently, the settlers consider themselves blameless.
16. your big mistake -- you pretend the arabs are like you.
naftulee ,   jerusalem   (06.18.14)
17. Old patterns, old nonsense!
James ,   UK   (06.18.14)
18. Yariv Oppenheimer another terrorist apologist
Volvi   (06.18.14)
I am pleased you came out with this perfidious article because it will show all Israel what a piece of work you are. You are an enemy of Israel no less then Hanin Zoabi and you both should pack up and move to Gaza even if you are a jew.
19. To No. 13
Bertram ,   London, UK   (06.18.14)
'Peace through strength'. Apart from echoes of a phrase we would much rather forget, it's Orwellian resonance is very clear: as 'truth' = 'lies' so 'peace' = 'war'. It reflects the fact that militarism is at the heart of the Israeli political right. It is its raison d'etre.
20. What can we expect from Oppenheimer?
Robert Haymond ,   Teko'a, Israel   (06.18.14)
If he were actually reside here, as opposed to his expensive dwelling place in London, he's see that there is plenty of unused land in Yehuda and Shomrun, enough for both peoples. But Oppenheimer always faults the Jewish state. He refuses to understand, or admit, that the Arab cause is an ideological one and no matter what we do and no matter how high their standard of living, they will always wish to destroy Jews as well as the State of Israel. Incidentally, in spite of Oppenheimer's nomenclature, there is no "Palestinian" people: They are divided into vast families (clans) who originated from many different locales including Turkey, Greece, Syria, Iraq and Egypt. They will never unite under one banner. So let's call it for what it is: Israeli Arabs; Gazan Arabs; and Westbank Arabs.
21. for the right winger TBers - history questions
just saying ,   Israel   (06.18.14)
when was the last time that we had large numbers of troops "roaming around" in the middle of Arab towns with out any injury? Never that's when. Do you think it is because the Palestinians are running scared? Hell no! They would love to kidnap &/or kill a few of our soldier boys. The reason the PA towns in the West Bank are not making any trouble despite all the weapons over there is because the word came down from Abu Mazan to co-operate. The reason Abu Mazan is co-operating and having the PA police co-ordinate is because he wants to be able to put up a good face on the international front - and thanks to irresponsible fools like you who need to hitchhike everywhere and who need to expose themselves to all kinds of dangers because you own the west bank - Abu Mazen is going to come out of this smelling like a rose and we'll get stuck with the bill. Then all of you will piss and moan about how much we are hated by the world. Such clever assistance to the enemy I have not seen EVEN in the service of the Left you so insist in demonizing, criticizing and insulting!
22. Yariv is like Zibi, justifying kidnapping as not terrorism
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (06.18.14)
23. Why are you giving Oppenheimer,
Reuven   (06.18.14)
a dangerous traitor, a forum? Ynet keeps trying to emuilate Haaretz!
24. Peace Now
Doc Stevens ,   Youngstown USA   (06.18.14)
Islamics/Muslims/ "palestinians" can't even take the destruction of The Zionist State out of their charter, refuse to educate their youth to the fact that the word "palestinian" was recently invented & the occupying arabs in Samaria & Judea, their homelands are Egypt, Jordan & Syria. The "Right of Return" has been accomplished: The Jewish Peoples have fought, died to return to The Jewish Homeland. Seek peace? Return the arab invaders, the occupiers The Romans shipped to Israel 70 AD back to their homelands: Jordan, Egypt, Syria & Cyprus.
25. What concessions have they made? Zero, none, nada
ghilmeini ,   usa   (06.18.14)
Instead they welcome murderers and celebrate Jewish death. When a Palestinian denounces violence or attacks against Israel or suggests making peace, they need to go into hiding. There is no symmetry. When they want peace they will renounce war, also called armed struggle, stop telling artists and academics to boycott Israel and demand their Arab brothers recognize Israel and send their ambassadors. You make peace when you end the war. They need to end the war, we fight just enough to stop them from killing us. No more equivocating and lies, no more mixed messages in Arabic and English. As for Oppenheimer, good intentions do not change the fact he is being used.
26. TO MR. OPPENHEIMER...
FO ,   Belgium   (06.18.14)
About a Palestinian people: even UNGA Resolution 181, a proposal, (UNGA has no decision power) never mentioned a Palestinian people or state, but an Arab one. This proposal became null and void being rejected by all Arabs states. The "shooting in Bitunia": don't tell us, Mr. Oppenheimer that you are unaware about images recorded 73 minutes earlier at the same locations with the same cameras, when everything went wrong with the “actors” and an ambulance. A repetition of the "Al Dura" case where nobody was killed or wounded, because not a single bullet was fired! So again a blood libel with YOUR blessing! You write Mr. Oppenheimer: "did we expect all Palestinians to sit quietly and accept the deepening Israel occupation submissively". What are you talking about? Till 1695 there were few Muslims in Palestine; the majority were Jews and Christians (read Hadriani Relandi' book) A Palestinian people is a myth, and the green line is not a border but a cease-fire line. The borders for a Jewish state were imposed in an irrevocable way by the League of Nations in 1922 on the territory between the Mediterranean Sea and the River Jordan (at least), including the Golan Heights! A decision voted unanimously by all the 51 members of the League, a decision that became International Law, valid to this day and reaffirmed by Article 80 of the United Nations Charter. And you want to tell us that you are unaware of all this? Mr. Oppenheimer, you are an insult to the Jewish people, to common sense, and to history in general.
27. To the editor
connie mack ,   camden   (06.18.14)
Connie Mack writes from camden. I omitted that detail in my recent comment. Thank you. Connie Mack
28. despair, hostility, hatred are as old as the hills3
rina   (06.18.14)
There is nothing new under the sun. Life choices people make. Nothing Israel does will change that.
29. . take responsibility for your beliefs
connie mack ,   camden   (06.18.14)
To #2, Israel, Israel Hello Israel, Israel: you wrote: "Man up already take responsibility for your beliefs and actions and hitchhiking!" Since reaching adulthood I have opposed the attitude that well dressed women who make up in order to enhance their appearance are partners, initiators and criminally negligent if they walk after dark in urban neighborhoods. I vehemently disagree with the defense or indictment that they bear responsibility if they are sexually assaulted. Israel, Israel: Do you join the voices which condemn the victims?
30. Actually the annoying and discomfortingin in Israel's
Gideon Reader   (06.18.14)
...but not fatal pain in Israel's arse comes from the back stabbing of polititurd midgets who can only reach the tuchis and not the heart of the nation.Mr.Google, er, Oppenheimer is not fatal except if gross foolishness and cupidity are killers. No. We leave that for the benificaries of Leftoid Yariv to carry out. Surprised he is clean shaven.
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