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Rabbi's ban on women's studies embarrasses Shas
Kobi Nachshoni
Published: 26.06.14, 16:13
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1. Taliban
Tomi Weiss ,   Israel   (06.26.14)
He is speaking as a Taliban. Ignorance among ourselves was always the biggest enemy of Jewish value and Jewish people
2. One can follow his own Rav
Lemmings Hotline ,   sd usa   (06.26.14)
even if he is passed on. I know of rulings where lenient rulings of the late Rav Shach ztl, ignoring more stricter rulings of his more contempory colleagues. Elu ve Elu.
3. Rabbi is right. Women should not goto college.It is too evil
Rivkah   (06.26.14)
Women get raped at colleges and the police and universities rarely prosecute since the rapists are usually athletes or fraternity brothers with rich parents. This is what the fraternities do to females at colleges: they invite a sorority or other females to a party and then drug them. Another fraternity comes in and rapes the drugged girls, so the police cannot connect the DNA to any of the boys at the party the girls remember being there. It is pure evil for women to leave home at all except to marry and stay at her husband's home. Look what happened to Dinah in Scriptures, the daughter of the Patriarch Jacob. She went into town and was raped. Her brothers killed all the male in that city to get her out and stop her from being treated like a harlot. They should have been honored but instead were disinherited by their father. Sending a daughter away to school is dangerous. My parents had a great fight about whether the daughters should go to college. Only evil came of that since it meant my parents could refuse to take in my sister Martha and her children and husband when her husband got too sick to work. Instead Martha went to work and the result was her daughters wandered from the faith and became harlots, sexually active as soon as Martha put them on oral contraceptives when they started menses and told them not to come home pregnant. She was gone so much working there was no one to raise them in faith and chastity since her husband was too sick to do that or chose not to. So now, Martha has no grandchildren all because she went to college. That should be a lesson for us all. Women should be supported by male relatives or husbands and not go out into the world that is evil. In the Holy Scriptures, it was preferable for a poor widow and her son to stay at HOME and starve to death than to go into the world when they ran out of food and no one provided for them. TO ELOHIM, DEATH IS PREFERABLE TO WOMEN DISCOVERING HOW EVIL THE WORLD IS BY GOING TO COLLEGE AND WORKING IN THE EVIL WORLD.
4. in the twenty first century?????
les ,   canada   (06.26.14)
that cult must be an offshoot of islam.
5. A True Leader
Danny   (06.26.14)
Rabbi Yosef welcoming Haredi College was quite a number of years ago when the colleges still had some pride and morality. Today, it's extremely dangerous for girls to attend any of those colleges. Many girls came forward with hair raising stories after studying in those colleges. G-d bless Rabbi Cohen. A true leader.
6. Cohen belongs to ISIS
Shmuel. L. Jackson ,   Bnei Blak   (06.26.14)
That crazy old man, and Deri the criminal are a bunch of thugs, who want an Islamic-Halachic State in Israel
7. Shas as a case study
Michael ,   Haifa   (06.26.14)
This party would make an excellent case study for researchers, who study the cultures and norms of primitive societies. Apart from that they make no other serious contribution to society
8. My brother Dan sent his three daughters to college and that
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corrupted them to the point that they did not marry and have legitimate children in a holy marriage to my knowledge, although I see online since I don't hear from them, that there are two bastards named Sean and Reynard that belong to one of his daughters. The boys have their mother's maiden name, so it is unlikely my niece or her sisters married. I gave up on them long ago since they preferred Satan to Elohim and mocked me for my nearness to Elohim. College girls rebel against Elohim unless they go to women only colleges that are religious and protect the girls and the girls cooperate in being protected. Of six nieces that all went to college, only one married and had children since the others were so corrupted, no one married them. This is a family that was destroyed long ago by the mother's decision for the girls to go to college regardless of the father's objections.
9. My Man, Rebbe!: after all, he knows exactly what God wants!
tom ,   tel aviv   (06.26.14)
10. once again, demonstrating consistency of our ayatollahs...
Rafi ,   US   (06.26.14)
... with those of fanatical Islam. Perhaps the Jewish heredi should travel to Nigeria to better coordinate with Boko Haram in on the subject of forbidden education. .
11. This is where we part ways...
Dror ,   Haifa, Israel   (06.26.14)
pathetic, backwards, moronic, medeival, stupid, primitive, ridiculous, embarrasing, etc... I used to think Shas was the party for promoting mizrachi equality, now I know how truly WRONG I was... Go crawl back into your medeival caves and take the Shknoz Charadim with you. YOU ARE TURNING INTO A REALLY DISGUSTING BUNCH...
12. hey rabbi cohen, stick it up your 'you know what!'...
Jewdas ,   AMERICA THEBEAUTIFUL   (06.26.14)
and while you are at it, stick your 8th century 'mysogenous' head back in the sand, maybe you'll learn something about your blind hollow empty inhuman fascist lack luster life. What an absolute ignoranus! He sets democracy and freedom back to the pogrums of the dark ages...
13. Shas Rabbi Bans Education for Women
MR ,   NJ, USA   (06.26.14)
At least he is not a hypocrite. G-d I hate hypocrites. He told the women not to study. Such study is evidently not important in his ethos. And after the feedback showing that he did not do his homework re rabbi O. Yosef's opinions and letters on education for women. Well, rabbi Cohen just took his own advice. He did not bother studying/getting the facts before he formed an opinion. The emes is that there really is a place for common sense within the Torah. Such people just did not do their homework. Closed their minds to the emes. Sad. But at least he is not a hypocrite.
14. Council of Sages
Sherlock Holmes ,   London England   (06.26.14)
I assume that Shas, Aguda and Degel each has a Council of Sages who discuss any pronouncements before they are made public. This confusion and contradiction should never have happened, if he is following Rav Ovadia ruling.
15. Harediot, you must lead the fight for your liberation.
Michael ,   California, USA   (06.26.14)
This rav cannot help himself at his old age and he continues discriminate Harediot. Now, let's see Harediot take up the fight against his imbecility and demonstrate in front of his shul in Mea Shaarim. Really, time for Harediot to act united against discrimination. Men will help, but Harediot must lead.
16. I agree with him. Many years ago,my parents fought a battle
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over whether the daughters should go to college and my mother won, which was a sad day for her daughters who were expected to go to college. College was evil. Working in the world was evil. It was so evil, I would not bring children into such an evil world. It is better for women to stay home and have children which they won't want to have if they see the corruption that I saw in the world. Scriptures says if any do not provide for their own they are worse than unbelievers which means to me that a male is not worthy of the name Man if he does not provide for his wife and children without the wife having to work in the world.
17. how about 7 shas MKs jailed so far
Avi   (06.26.14)
Now thats embarassing to say the least,i hear they even have their own prison wing
18. Comparing apples to oranges.
Danny   (06.26.14)
Comparing colleges in the times of Rav Ovadia Yosef is like comparing colleges in the time of Moshe Rabbenu. The generations have descended so low and the colleges have become so anti religious that one does not have to be a Chacham Shalom to prohibit it. Listen to the interviews from girls who personally went to these colleges and the horror stories they have to say and what they think about the spiritual level and danger of these colleges. Would any of you pass Harlem today? These colleges are a spiritual Harlem. This concept can be found in Rashi (Deuteronomy 16:22) "Even though it was beloved at the time of our Patriarchs, now Hashem hates it since it was made for Avoda Zara." Thank G-d for such leaders and shepherds like Rav Shalom Cohen shlit"a.
19. Homework
Joe ,   Israel   (06.26.14)
Apparently, Rabbi Cohen doesn't do homework either.
20. Shas banning women from higher education
Deborah Rund, MD ,   Jerusalem Israel   (06.26.14)
Hopefully this will be the beginning of the end of Shas, which has gone too far in trying to keep women at an academic disadvantage. If it is the man's obligation to learn Torah, why does Chief Rabbi Cohen not ban MEN from higher education?
21. King Solomon who is called King Lemuel in Proverbs chapter31
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outlines the occupations acceptable for a woman to do to earn money but only if she is able to do her housework and family obligations first and her husband agrees for her to work for money. Buying and selling real estate is acceptable. Sewing is acceptable. There are a few things godly women can do without jeopardizing their status as holy to bring in an income. But the family must come first. Elohim requires of parents that they teach the Commandments to their children and raise them to be godly people. A great failing of women involved in the work world is that they fail to do that. Keeping children on a godly path means the mother takes them to school to protect them from predators and is at the school when they get out to take them home to protect them from predators who are ever a danger since Satan knows attacking children is so effective in destroying their lives. Working hinders mothers from doing that, from being home when the children need her to be home. A single woman raising a son alone without a male father figure can count on a 90% chance of that son going to prison. Many women want to raise a child or children alone and juggle a career with that which is not Elohim's plan. But when the husbands are too lazy or refuse to work or are too sick to work, Elohim's best is not possible unless the government pays mothers to stay with their children to keep the children godly in as much as is possible.
22. Cohen is of Bnai Korach, Datan, and Aviram and is totally
meir Elazar   (06.27.14)
ignorant of Torah. His words violate the holy Torah and he should be put away from real Jews to diminish his evil influence on G-d's holy people.
23. At least Rabi Shalom Cohen has some integrity
Ron ,   Melbourne Australia   (06.27.14)
Notice how the letters that support the education institution are to family members of Ovadia Yosef. Of course the cartel needs come first -Rabbi Cohen really should not upset the wrong people. At least he has some 'honesty' in a blanket ban vs. his father who made sure the money was kept in the family. The Rambam is probably turning in his grave. He cautioned against using the Torah as 'Cardom lachpor bo' - as a means for control, for making money ,etc. He would look with dismay and appointment at the caliber of Oligachs we are dealing here with. Apart from being backward - they are just mean petty people looking after their own pockets, power ,etc - they are as low as you can go and all you need to do is read the Rambam view on such actions and also look a the value he place on learning - not just judism but the sciences, philosophy ,etc Or do these people claim that they are better then the Rambam in knowledge, intellect, integrity ,etc ?
24. Rivkah's posts
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Before opening the comments I noticed a couple were by Rivkah , and given that females were the subject of the article I laughed to myself about the high probability that Rivkah's posts would be about sex. After skim reading them I suspect that sex is indeed what they are about. Too much information !
25. Shas embarrassed?
gp ,   Tel Aviv   (06.27.14)
Embarrassment only comes to those smart enough to realize the stupidity of their actions. There seems to be nothing about Shas that suggests anything but ignorance and idiocy... except, perhaps, when it comes to financial extortion and corruption.
26. @ Rivkah
Horhe   (06.27.14)
Do you know who else in this world speak in god's name? Hint: Distant relatives
27. That's pretty funny.
Susan ,   Kfar Saba   (06.27.14)
My son, who is now a soldier studied in a Shas elementary school. I went to the parent-teacher meeting with his 3rd grade teacher. She told me she was studying for a master's degree and asked me about a word in English in an article she had to read. What rock did they find this rabbi under?
28. Freedom to choose
robert ,   antwerp belgium   (06.27.14)
It's a matter of how strong the religious education is when young religious women and men go to university to achieve a degree that gives them a profession. Personally I think that living in isolation from the secular world makes young orthodox people weaker once they are confronted with secular people. Young orthodox people should learn how to win a debate against non believing people.
29. AND WE THOUGHT ALL ALONG RABBIS WERE TEACHERS &NOT DIRECTORS
Jewishness ,   ATLANTA GA USA   (06.27.14)
SO MUCH FOR THAT BALONEY. Heredi Rabbis have moved into and taken over overt directing of tyrannical governing as opposed to their civil Torah teaching. THEY ARE THE NEW FASCISTS! the heredi Rabbinate has overtaken the political world of Israel and yet HAVE NO BUSINESS RUNNING THE COUNTRY BY religious dogma and arbritrary DECREE... Rabbi's teach, but do not decree.
30. 26 Horhe: Yes, many who think they know Elohim but do not
Rivkah   (06.27.14)
speak in His Names. But there are a few who speak in Elohim's Names who speak in faith and confidence and are actually directed by Elohim. I have no blood relatives to my knowledge who celebrate the Jewish Messiah and the Jewish Holy Days and the Jewish Shabbat or think their children should be circumcised. But they all think they are saved eternally which is from self deception and false teaching from preachers and Bibles that are corrupted translations. Thankfully, I married a man whose Jewish name means upright and righteous and Elohim opened my spiritual eyes and spiritual understanding through study and correct teachers after a thorough study of Scriptures to know the true from the false when it is spoken.
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