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In Gaza, there is no such thing as 'innocent civilians'
Giora Eiland
Published: 05.08.14, 00:23
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31. #7 Ahmed has a couple of good points
Shachar ,   Eilat   (08.05.14)
(though others are way off the mark) .Gazans need to control their essential supplies, electricity, water, etc and it certainly shouldn't come from Israel. But if they start a war they need to know they will lose these things in the first strikes.
32. Did we feed, energize Germans and Japanese in WW2?
shneerhere ,   chicago   (08.05.14)
Did we supply nutrition and energy to the Axis powers? Why actually, yes, Standard Oil was shipping oil to Nazi Germany out of Bayonne NJ during WW2, all for the sake of the Dollar courtesy of the Dulles brothers. But, generally, in war, combatants do not feed and supply those they are fighting. Author is spot on.
33. Shame on you
Tamara ,   London   (08.05.14)
Aren't children innocent civilian? You talk like terrorist do when they say that the whole of Israel is the ennemy and therefore any target is Ok. What exactly is the difference?
34. Your logic: israeli-jews elected the government and
USA   (08.05.14)
supports the military, therefore all jews are responsible for the slaughter and genocide. All jews are just a guilty as the pilots that targeted UN refugee camps. And kids playing soccer on the beach. Then the killing of jews are justified
35. Brilliant Reply. Cogent and Compelling
Donald Pruden, Jr. ,   Medford, USA   (08.05.14)
You covered every point, including human political psychology. It is clear that you understand what this retired soldier does not. Bravo!
36. Right on the money. (end)
Marvin ,   NYC   (08.05.14)
37. are they
(08.05.14)
feed all birds and animals on this earth .they are kuffar
38. absolutely correct, clear and starightforward
Ilya ,   USA   (08.06.14)
39. Yes, and NO
Larry ,   LA (formerly)   (08.06.14)
Yes, you are correct that the Gaza residents voted for and gave support to Hamas. However, we are also fighting a propaganda weapon and by showing that we are so concerned for the 'innocent' civilians we send in food and water, we look good in the eyes of the European and Americans.
40. unbelievable
JoJo ,   London   (08.06.14)
I can't beleive this guy was the former head of Israel's National Security Council. You cannot compare the situation with Germany. Gaza relies heavily on Israel to survive. Gaza is not buig enough to be self-sufficient. The situation in Gaza is Israel's doing and she bears the brunt of the responsibility for its residents.
41. 2 "Mortal foes" whose land you covet
lydia ,   Brisbane   (08.06.14)
Occupation 101 comes with its own legal responsibilities. The Palestinians don't want your bs food money electricity work permits etc they want your lot of psychotic liars and pathological murderers gone, back from whence you came.
42. Shoting yourslef in the head
spyguy ,   seattle usa   (08.06.14)
This is the thinking that will lead to the end of Israel. NO ONE on earth agrees with this very wrong, inhumane argument. Not only will the rest of the world shun Israel for this, but so will the US, no matter how much you bribe the congress critters. Do you have any idea what will happen to and isolate,blockaded Israel? Israel is not self-sufficient in food or energy and if the world refuses to trade with Israel, how will Israelis eat, drive, etc. Why would all the "best and brightest" stay in Israel when they can have much better lives other places on the globe and unlike Palestinians, Israelis are free to leave and start new lives.
43. POV
Yosef ,   Israel   (08.06.14)
In a democracy such as Israel, the army carries out the directives of the civilian government. Opinions and comments of people who have never served in combat situations, have never shot or been shot at, or see their comrades killed, tend to be more moralistic and empathetic with the death of civilians, than do the former. Giora Eiland is a military man and sees things differently than what we see in pictures or read..We have never been ordered to defend our country militarily time and time again and should not judge others who have.
44. Gaza
JB ,   Redding, CA   (08.07.14)
I agree, there are no innocent civilians in Gaza. The children are taught from the cradle to hate the Jewish people. The Palestinians will expect everyone except themselves to rebuild their homes and buildings. The UN and the world have supported them for years....homes, food, education, utilities, etc. My question is what have they done for themselves except produce more "refugees". I noticed from hundreds of films taken during the current situation...they are all well dressed and clean...chubby cheek children...and the mothers were very plump. I also noticed all their cars and trucks looked new...I did not see any junkers. If they are so poor that the world has to support them...where do they get the money to buy new cars and dress as well as they do?
45. In ISRAEL, there is no such thing as 'innocent civilians'
Adnan ,   Jordan   (08.07.14)
well Mr. Stupid,, we will stay and we will REMOVE you and your stupid people from Earth.. Just wait for us,, I don't know how old are you,, if you still alive in the next 10 Years, you will see your stupid state going with wind ,, sorry i mean going to the hell.
46. Israel has failed again - deliberately...
Jhan   (08.07.14)
47. #41. Watch Fictional Palestine collapse like a rag.
Chaim ,   Israel   (08.07.14)
#41. You claim "Palestinians" don't want Israeli food, money, electricity, work permits etc. I want Israel to stop supplying our mortal "Palestinian" foes with anything. So our positions are in harmony on this issue. Israel owes murderous "Palestinians" absolutely nothing. This land is ours forever. Soon Israel will stop supplying Fictional Palestine and we will watch it collapse like a rag at our feet.
48. #42. Wimpguy. "Palestinians" are fleeing.
Chaim ,   Israel   (08.07.14)
#42. Wimpguy. Your dumb threats don't scare Israel. Israel grows richer and stronger each year. Sure, Israel has foes. But Israel also has billions of friends. Israel's friends are the salt of the earth. Israel's foes are Nazis, hoaxers, racists, fascists etc. The scum of the earth. "Palestinians" are already fleeing Judea and Samaria at the rate of about 15,000 annually. As patriots increasingly rise to power in Israel; watch that rate skyrocket upwards.
49. Major-General (res.) Giora Eiland
Alex ,   Israel   (08.11.14)
Absolutely correct view on the modern war fare. I hope that Israel one day will have true professionals to make strategically correct decisions . If someone thinks that we have enough time to play pseudo-democratic games he is mistaken. Next time around Hamas will use chemical and biological weapons and the iron dome will not help.
50. gaza
Oooooo ,   india   (08.15.14)
Pls someone tell me why 4 billions dollars was spent for underground tunnels and also what would have been Israel casualties if there was No Iron Dome ?? Why only an Israeli family was targeted in Mumbai terror attack??
51. israel in the eyes of the world
natalia ,   colombia   (08.25.14)
I am a Colombian i hate see the violence in my country the same way i hate the violence that Israel has done to the people of palestine. It is very obvious that this has alredy been so far from Israel goverment. We can not judge all the people of Israel because as i hate to see how many goverments use his power in a bad way the same a lot people of Israel do it. I talk like a human, like a mother, like a sister and see what is happend in this war between israel ans palestina is breaking my heart. Can u goverment of Israel and Palestina stop for a moment to look yor son eyes , your daugther eyes and think how beautiful our kids are and how beautiful future we can give to them. if we learn have love for others and respect, we all can help each another . God send us to this world to leave with love and peace, this world is so big that is a place for every one, i believe the God is only one is the same God for all us and i know God is only love. God say to all us not kill and is sad how for both sides kill each another, today in the news i see how Israel bombed a building in gaza. How it can happend , how usa goverment can help israel provide them with more weapons to israel to continue killing more innocents. I was in usa when of president Obama had his campaigns and i was in one of his campaings and always watch all the election, i was so happy because i see on him a lot of future for usa and for th rest of the world i remember i say my self he is going to bring peace to his country and to the rest of the world. but i was wrong and it made me very sad when u put all your believe in some one or in somenthing that no keep his promises and instead this absurd war he continue helping that more innocent people die. we all know that Palestinians had kill people from israel too but we can count how many people get kill from palestinians rockets and we can count to how many israel had kill from gaza y it is hundreds and hundreds it is no acceptable and how u Israel continue control this people lifes use the power of the israel goverment had and in from of God eyes and of the world eyes because like matematics it is very clear that 2 plus 2 is igual 4 here and for the rest of the world. the same is how you look in from of the world eyes when we see that you are killing so much innocents. a lot people from Israel hate see what his goverment is doing and us of rest of the world too.
52. How to have credibility
Paul Seekerman ,   Brisbane Australia   (08.30.14)
Unfortunately, this article is amongst the extreme ones that simply puts all the blame on the Gazans and lacks serious credibility. Looking from the outside in, from a person with close ties to Israel, it is important to speak the truth. Until there is some understanding that Hamas and the hatred against the Israelis from the Gazans came from something, from some reason, Israelis will basically continue to be in manipulated mindset of simply believing the media rhetoric and blame the Gazans without taking any responsibility where not only is peace not possible but Israel is being put in danger unnecessarily. Please have a look at what is behind this and dont read your own literature, look outside. Bless you.
53. #7: Good reasoning except the assertion that Qatar
N ,   N   (08.19.15)
... is treating all its inhabitants with dignity. It doesn't! Qatar is perhaps the most divided country in the modern world: The mostly very wealthy citizens on one side and the huge masses of foreign low-paid workers on the other with no rights who often work under unbearable conditions (and whose passports are taken away, so they cannot even leave this mess).
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