Opinion  Ron Ben-Yishai
Israel should face the truth, and deal with the war of attrition
Ron Ben-Yishai
Published: 24.08.14, 01:15
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1. What combat experience does the author
Israella ,   Israel   (08.24.14)
Of this article have exactly? Does he have any at all? Do very easy to list what needs to be done.
2. At least someone has a plan
ggg ,   Tel Aviv   (08.24.14)
The message is clear: Hamas should not be dictating the terms, Israel must, or the battle is lost. Ben Yishai is right to insist that the areas alongside Gaza be evacuated and that airstrikes need to be relentless, until Gazans understand that they will have no peace so long as they're disturbing ours. Only the control by the UN (Useless Nations) is in question as they have proved over and over again that they cannot be trusted, Port and airport facilities cannot be considered for a very long time. Hamas is not going to disarm and Ben Yishai should know this. Other than that, he at least has some idea of where things should go, which is a whole lot more than the current government has to offer.
3. Mr. Ben-Yishai...
milwaukeebroad ,   Haifa, Israel   (08.24.14)
...Israel is walking a fine line between defense and world damnation if they fight back to hard. Mr. Netanyahu will only be careful until he has no choice but to whip out the big guns. When the time comes, it'll be all or nothing, winner take all. Hamas has also made some major missteps recently, so Bibi's not the only one treading on thin ice. Bibi also has far less to lose, all things considered.
4. Israel must retake Gaza to eliminate Hamas
Scott ,   Ramat Gan   (08.24.14)
The alternative, what the author describes, air strikes, evacuations. surgical ground invasions have been tried & failed. Israel must go in, retake Gaza for a period of weeks or months to completely eliminate Hamas & allow Abbas to takeover.
5. Great Analysis
DOV ,   USA   (08.24.14)
I'm am hoping PM and Military are with you on your logic. I don't think PM is getting a fare shake from the public. His military background is exemplary.
6. Ground Operation Was Useful Islamofasists Killed
Zechariah   (08.24.14)
Ground operation vital to kill islamofascist fighters in a Targetted Manner .To Destroy tunnels and expose Hamas Callous refusal to use tunnels as shelters for Civilians especially Children guarded by Islam fighters Fighters.To accelerate Anti missile Protection of Armed vehicles and develop lighter bullet proof vests .Improve Reconaissance if future Ground attacks .
7. missing the obvious step
(08.24.14)
Even if Hamas loses militarily, every tactical gain is seen as a strategic victory. In this war the fact that Obama openly allied with Hamas, the closure of the airport, and the evacuation of the Jewish border communities fulfills Sharon's prediction that "The fate of Netzarim will be Tel Aviv's". These victories motivate Hamas to fight and the Arabs to support them. Israel needs a victory to show her enemies that the Jews are here to stay and that the war is a minor irritation. Since Obama prevents an Israeli military victory over Hamas, Israel can take only one step that Ben-Yishai forgets: liberating territories from the Arab occupation until Hamas surrenders. Israel should declare irrevocable sovereignty over parts of Judea and Samaria (including Area B), destroy illegal Arab building, and start Jewish building. A good start would be sovereignty on Road 443 with building in Bet Horon, or sovereignty over Bet Arieh and the regulation of the illegal settlement of Rantis.
8. Hamas and the War of Attrition
Ceaser ,   Ariel Israel   (08.24.14)
Israel is not the United States nor are we any country in Europe. We are a small country with limited resources. The Palestinians have made their case and have elicited support from the entire world. Hamas now represents the Palestinians and can send missiles and can strike the State of Israel everywhere. The world approves their actions. It is time to end this, even at the risk of terrible loss of life and additional financial loss, we must remove Hamas from this equation and remove if necessary the Palestinians from the Gaza Strip..
9. There are no "better protected" places.
Miron ,   USA   (08.24.14)
Hamas rockets reach entire Israel. Military is the only option Israel has. It's up to Israel to fight or to capitulate. We have best rates for equipment in case Israel capitulates. But to fight I am afraid our present time US president is a bad ally to rely on. Find alternate re - supply routes before getting in.
10. ron ben Yshai analysis
peter Katz ,   USA   (08.24.14)
perfect analysis .
11. Are the Gush Katif evacuees from 2005 happy yet that they
Rivkah   (08.24.14)
are not in Gaza? Hmmm? There would have been a lot of POW's if the Jews had not been pulled out in 2005. But Hamas being what it is, the Jews who left Gaza would all be dead if they had stayed there. When are they going to thank the Sharon family for getting them out of a kill zone that the Prophet Zephaniah warned about long ago. ALL the people in Gaza will be killed. ALL. ALL. ALL. But was even one person who left there thankful? No. They all wanted to die in a war instead of leaving all to survive.
12. Ben - Yishai Is Correct
A.C.Guard ,   USA   (08.24.14)
But Bibi and the rest of Israel's leadership will never do what is needed to win this war. And it is a war. Bibi will either wait for Obama, the EU or Un to tell him what actions he can continue to take or he will wait for another country's government to halt Hamas. Bibi is not suited to actually lead Israel to a true victory.
13. UNWRA
Maurice ,   Tel Aviv   (08.24.14)
Step 5 - dismantle and replace UNWRA, the Palestinian support organization posing as a UN humanitarian player.
14. With the best plan, the State of Israel,
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (08.24.14)
in order to succeed,needs G-D's help , to adopt His commandments. At least to view, those who bear the burden of the Tora, in a favourable light.. May G-D bless Israel.
15. # 4 Takeover of Gaza and eradicating Hhamas
Moshe ,   Israel   (08.24.14)
The terrorists are braced for such option, and prepared many pitfalls for Israeli soldiers. According to IDF experts, such invasion will cost the military hundreds of dead, and more wounded and maimed. Are you ready to go and console the families of the fallen and injured soldiers ?
16. above
moishe   (08.24.14)
also; propaganda war to sway Gaza opinion away from Hamas. convince Gaza that military action will continue until peace. life will be hell. allow Israeli people to build and send rockets to Gaza. tit for tat. percussion bombs at odd hours at night over Gaza. pray that the God of Israel wakes up for a change.
17. Fait accompli
Albrecht Klein ,   Germany   (08.24.14)
Don't talk about it, do it. After the Gaza Strip has been levelled, all the weirdos from USA, EU, and UN can complain as much as they want.
18. Mr Yishai's last step is naieve
JewishHeart   (08.24.14)
To expect Hamas just to disarm voluntarily and expect the UN to be an honest broker to oversee it is the most naieve thing I have ever heard. We need to enforce disarmament, put Abbas back in control of Gaza under Israeli military occupation.I think under the radar, Abbas undersands that his only hope of political survival is Israeli military occupation. This way we ensure a terror free Gaza without taking responsibility for millions of civilians.
19. Command is not a pastime.
RockyS ,   Seattle, WA   (08.24.14)
Item one is a non starter. Making people leave their homes is exactly what one wouldn't want to portray to this enemy. The way America really won WWII was by carpet bombing and dropping the big bombs on major cities. Bombing empty buildings thinking its a way to defeat Hamas is foolish. Item 3: Relying on the UN to police Gaza is another foolish idea. Taking the fight to the enemy is how you make them surrender and get to a victory. The sooner the better to end an endless war.
20. thoughts of war
Richard R Silverman ,   seattle   (08.24.14)
1. The way to protect civilians is to stop the attackers. 2. Announcing bombing is dumb. War is fought between people and is not about blowing up empty buildings. The enemy has to feel loss to surrender. 3. Asking soldiers to stand down or stand guard won't win battles or the war. The fight needs to take it to the enemy without reservation. Half-hearted efforts prolong the war. 4. Finally, Asking that the UN protect Israel is just plain nuts.
21. 20 Our leaders fear world media
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (08.25.14)
instead of G-D.
22. Unconditional Surrender Nothing Less!
Bill ,   Skokie U.S.A.   (08.25.14)
Glad I could help you write your opinion!
23. War of attrition: Children killed
Stephen Vassallo ,   Xewkija, Malta   (08.25.14)
Very true, but also keep in mind that so far 448 Palestinian children have also been killed in this war. (UN report)
24. Ben-Yishai
RayS ,   NH, USA   (08.26.14)
this old soldier (WW 2,Yom Kippur War, SLA experience) finds Mr Ben-Yishai right on target. Very fine article.
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