Opinion  Orly Azoulay
Ingratitude in Jerusalem, loathing in Washington
Orly Azoulay
Published: 29.10.14, 00:52
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1. Netanyahu is Provocative but No peace plan Yet
Zechariah   (10.29.14)
Few in the Public know the discussions Netanyahu Abbas Obama Putin but a Safe for Jews Palestinian Islamic or Arab Nationalist State with Smuggled Weapons -Who Will stop it .in the USA they have No gun control and the drug trade booms from demand of USA citizens.
2. attack by Obma is the byproduct of Livni, Lapid and Meretz
JJJ   (10.29.14)
Actually this attack by Obma is the byproduct of Livni, Lapid and Meretz. The American would have thought twice to attack the prime minister of Israel if the Israelis were united. But now they see an opening in convincing the Israelis to get red of Netanyuo in next election for one of those ass kissers, the one's that will maintain the status of Israel as Republic Banana
3. US will never dare to challenge the Iranians in their advent
JJJ   (10.29.14)
I wrote again and again, Israel is a Republic Banana, and its the doing of consecutive Israeli administrations (for example Livni's nose deep in the U,S behind). I also wrote that in regards to attacking Iran the train left the station. Now Netanyuo listen, tell the world that Israel changed her mind, Iran can make as many bombes as they want, Israel has the answer to Iran threat, but good luck to the Arab neighbors of Iran same for the Americans they can kiss the middle east good bye after the Iranians will acquire the bombs the US will never dare to challenge the Iranians in their adventures
4. I'm a U.S. Citizen and love my country and Israel
Jerome ,   Basalt, Colorado   (10.29.14)
But blame Obama and his far left, weak appeasement policies for failure with Americas closet ally in the wild wild Middle East. The fool sided with the Muslim brotherhood and distance the U.S. From Egypt. Obama always does everthing ass backwards. We all pay the price, while his golf game probably improved.
5. Untrue Facts!
Sayitasitis ,   USA   (10.29.14)
Its unbelievable how things get twisted around. Natanyahu did not do anything bad. It is Obama (a muslim sympathizer) that dislikes him and no matter what Natanyahu will do Obama will find a reason to undermine him. This is a tactical spinweb that the Obama administration is trying to put Israel into. Which person in his right mind would blame israel for "construction" when the world is burning with fire/murderers! Israel don't fear Obama, הן עם לבדד ישכון ! Build and build and build again. Ignore the ignorant! The day will come...
6. Accepting U.S. demands
Mark ,   Concord, Ontario   (10.29.14)
7. US Mid-East Policy is the cause of poor relations with Israe
Mark ,   Concord, Ontario   (10.29.14)
The deteriorating relationship between the Israeli and US administration is directly related to the opposing interests of both countries in that region. There is nothing Israel can do to improve them, short of risking it's own security and bowing into International pressure which there is no end to. Israel is between a rock and a hard place, but in my opinion, they are better off relying on themselves and The Almighty rather than the US. With friend like Obama, who needs enemies?
8. Author is off the mark
Howard Immanuelson ,   US   (10.29.14)
Not sure who the author is but they miss the mark with this publication. Yes, the relationship is in tatters between Obama and Netenyahu but all will be fine again in 2 years when Obama leaves office. They do truly loathe each other but I can say as an American that virtually all of the GOI's criticism of Obama and his administration has been perfectly on target. I'm sure that Obama doesn't see things that way but his administration has a nearly flawless record of screwing up every single thing they attempt in the international arena and this situation is no different. The two years will fly by quickly and then we'll once again have a leader that supports our allies and opposes our enemies.
9. Jerusalem
John ,   Sunbury, USA   (10.29.14)
Bibi is not the problem, obama is!!
10. Of course, Netanyahu-hater blames Netanyahu
Raymond in DC ,   Washington, USA   (10.29.14)
Azulai should recall that it was OBAMA who, even before he took office, slurred the Likud, and talked of putting "daylight" between the US and Israel. And that was when Olmert, not Netanyahu was the Prime Minister. It was also. Obama who had Rahm Emanuel as his first Chief of Staff, a man who still carried resentment toward Netanyahu from his days working for Clinton. and it was Obama who effectively tore up the Bush-Sharon letters, a series of understandings from those good old days when the US and Israel worked so much better together. And I suppose it's also Israel's fault that Netanyahu has disagreed with the policies of one of the most feckless and incompetent foreign policy teams in recent memory.
11. The problem is the Obama administration's view of Muslims.
Matt C ,   Canada   (10.29.14)
Obama's very first act after being elected president was to call Abbas and pledge Abbas his support. He didn't speak with a representative of Israel until much later. Obama then immediately sabotaged peace talks by making freezing settlements a condition of talks, a demand Abbas had not made until Obama did. Obama then thought he could fix the problem of Islamist hatred in the Middle East with a simple speech in Cairo praising Islam that he invited the extremist Muslim Brotherhood to. From the beginning, Obama administration policy in the Middle East has been to assume that extremism only exists because the extremists feel "wronged," therefore solving the problem is as easy as making them happy. Anyone who disagrees with this assumption and points out that there are hordes of Islamist followers who feel quite triumphant with what they are doing is slammed as a "racist" and "Islamophobic." The Obama administration has been extremely dogmatic and narrow-minded in this view, and it has resulted in catastrophic policy failures in Muslim countries that have set the world on fire, from Libya to Yemen to Syria to Egypt and so forth. This belief is also why when extremists take an "us or Israel" approach, Obama always sympathises with the extremists, as we have seen in peace negotiations, Gaza and now Iran. No matter what Israel does, as long as Islamists attack Israel the only way to excuse those attacks without blaming the Muslims will be to blame Israelis. The problem is that in their desperation to avoid "Islamophobia" people like Obama have no problem verging into anti-Semitism and Israel-hatred, and they are totally in denial about what is happening in the Middle East.
12. PM Netanyahu, just ignore the insults
CJK   (10.29.14)
the obama administration has every intention to sign a capitulation deal with the shia terror regime; and it has every intention to attempt to impose a pax obama on the jewish state. israel would have had to follow all orders from obama to please this arrogant megalomane. however, israel is a sovereign. israel has her own very important national security interests. it is very sad that there are jewish israelis who side with obama, a person who sat in an antisemitic church for twenty years, against their own prime minister. let the die be cast. there is no turning back.
13. NONSENSE
Jake ,   haifa   (10.29.14)
This is utter nonsense, Obama propaganda fed to a naive Israeli. The American people love Israel more than ever and despise the dysfunctional losers of the Arab/Muslim world more than ever and Obama is a lame duck President who has virtually no one's respect. Netanyahu was in the Sayeret Matkal and Obama was a community organizer. My lord. How humiliating for Obama for someone in his administration to use this kind of language. He looks so pathetic.
14. Article By Orly Azoulay
Antony Levy ,   Pardes Hana, Israel   (10.29.14)
Dear Orly, I have just read & internalised your article. I cannot understand why you wrote it or why yNet published it. In order to publish a comment here yNet asks that I not include (quote) "incitement", but that is exactly what you have done. You have incite against my country Israel and I object to that. You have fallen into the media/reporter's trap of seeking sensationalism instead of accuracy. You have completely excluded the real reasons for the so called anti Kerry or anti Obama feeling felt by so many Israelis today. Simply stated, these two people, the former being the lackey of the latter, have let their only true ally in the Middle East down. They have lied to us, they have tried to manipulate us and they constantly blackmail us. America today is in a terrible situation, mainly because of Obama's actions & in-actions. I believe that in the interests of honest journalism and your reputation you should very quickly publish an article of similar length outlining all the things that Obama & Kerry have done that have brought us to this situation today. And just to remind you, Israel today is still America's only true ally in the Middle East!
15. DC crippled the operation in Gaza!
roxanne ,   Haifa   (10.29.14)
Let Obama and Kerry be angry! They are not risking their lives.
16. Bibi's fault
Avi L.   (10.29.14)
If Bibi had the buts to end once and for all Hamas rule in Gaza, US administration would respect our government, but Bibi showed to be just a big mouthed guy. So why be astonished if if gets no respect?
17. Put the relations on ice....
Freddom ,   Haifa, Israel   (10.29.14)
Well before Obama leaves office, that is if he really intends to leave.. AMERIKKKA WILL TOTALLY COLLAPSE.. The suck ups in Israel can take that to the bank...
18. WAY OFF
tTEL EM STRAIGHT ,   SAFED OBVIOUS   (10.29.14)
Israel need not suffer fools like Livni ,Kerry and Oblablah gladly .Israel must stand up for its interests ,the same as every other country does.
19. Chicken....
Zushe ,   Canada   (10.29.14)
Bh Not disregarding or minimizing the support America is offering Israel one should not get carried away with the inferiority complex towards Great USA De Gaule correctly said in politics there is no friendship only interests Americans are indeed good friends but for the government the relationship is one of mutual interest The present Obama administration allows itself to conduct vis a vis Israel with less respect then to any despot or terrorist around the world. I think Bibi is right in presenting Jewish pride by not allowing Israel to be the old fashioned "Moshke" that just asked how high do I dance to your tune Ultimately it is not Obama or Ashton or Sisi who garuantee our existance and well being There is a higher power who protects us from our enemies as well as from our friends Let's invest in His protection no less then in the cordial relationship with the leaders if the world
20. Israel will survive the 'scorn of Obama
tiki ,   belgium   (10.29.14)
But might not when it takes 'advise from Obama. The 'insulted US President should grow a pair and behave like a statesman and not play children's tit for tat's politics! Israel is not guilty that this President & his foreign secretary can't accomplish anything more than blame Israel for their low ratings. They have only to themselves to blame.
21. About the article Ingratitude in Jerusalem...
Walter ,   Sweden   (10.29.14)
You end your interesting article about Israel and USA relations, and conclude: I can't remember a situation in which the Israeli foolishness became such a destructive factor in the relationship between the two countries. Let me please remind you of the statement by an Israeli diplomat, about Brazil being a diplomatic dwarf earlier this year. This probably deserves the Ig-Nobel prize of diplomacy.
22. above
moishe   (10.29.14)
Presidents and PMs come and go. Israel will live on. next President may be GOP. better relations. also Senate may go GOP. so live on and build on.
23. Missing the real issue
(10.29.14)
Azoulay is on record as hating Netanyahu and loving Obama. However, that she revels in the Obama regime loathing Netanyahu or accusing of Netanyahu being ungrateful means she did not read what Goldberg wrote. Goldberg says that Obama believed that Israel could have stopped the Iranian nuke program two years ago, and is proud that he prevented the attack. Goldberg goes further to say that Obama now believes that Iranian nukes are inevitable. To make it clear: Goldberg is saying that Obama takes pride in having nuclearized Iran. It seems that Azoulay does not understand the significance of Iran having nukes.
24. Obama
Brad ,   USA   (10.29.14)
Obama doesn't give a damn about Israel, or the U.S. He can't, he's on the other side. Israel is better off without Obama, and so are we.
25. Situation seems ok
Ian ,   Newcastle upon Tyne   (10.29.14)
I start with the blindingly obvious;Obama and Kerry are bad for Israel.Shifting the relationship to one of 'a state of maintenance' looks like a good strategic move for Israel. Firstly,it limits the damage that this US administration can do to Israel's security.Secondly,it'll stand Israel in good stead when Obama and Kerry disappear from the scene in 2 years time if,probably when,the US electorate comes to its collective senses and elects a president who can be trusted to stand up for western interests and values,unlike Obama. THREE CHEERS FOR ISRAEL!!!
26. Actually Orly you don't understand the US
Mordechai   (10.30.14)
Obama doesn't represent much of the US. That's why his party the democrats is going to be decimated in the next congressional elections. Obama hates Israel. His problem is the establishment of Israel in 1948 not the occupation in 1967. However most Americans support Israel and can't understand why Israel would negotiate with a terrorists group like the PLO. Which is why the Republican congress will overrule any Obama anti Israel action
27. Obama and Netanyahu
Tania   (10.30.14)
Orly Azulay, you forgot the time Obama left Netanyahu (during head's of State talks) sitting alone while he went and had lunch, to come back later and continue the talks? Obama hasn't done that even to the worst of American enemies. To some leaders he has offered black tie dinners.......
28. Obama is poison for the USA, Israel, Jews and non-Muslims
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (10.30.14)
29. ???
Michel ,   Ashkelon   (11.26.14)
What kind of submission woul you seek in exchange of Administration friendship? Are you suggesting to sell Israel , to prostitute him ?in exchange of good relations! One good thing Bibi did better thant his predecesors : To stand to the pressures of the so called friends. Every PM before him was bending to the Americans at the expense of Israel people interests.You ought to support him, not critisize him for this. Is shameful to read certain things that are continuation of the gola ewish mentality !
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