Opinion  Shimon Shiffer
Netanyahu may go down in history as prime minister who lost Jerusalem
Shimon Shiffer
Published: 07.11.14, 00:41
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1. Source of Palestinian Frustration???
Dr. Rob Lee ,   USA   (11.07.14)
Shiffer is delusional. In 1992, when things were "ok" with Palestinians, I was pelted with pebbles by a group of 5-8 year old girls in the City of David, Jerusalem. These girls learned this behavior from birth. There's no way anyone, including Netanyahu, can turn this type of behavior around. These girls and their brothers are now in their 20s. Blaming Netanyahu is a cheap trick as this behavior has been ongoing for years. 2 years ago my friends refused to drive me to the amount of. Olives. When they changed their minds the roads were covered with glass. On the way up we were nearly run over by a swerving car full of Palestinian young men. Even more unmentionable things happened when we arrived at the cemetery. Hamas & Abbas are joining forces to tap into the inbred hatred. Nobody can change this since it's part of Palestinian DNA. They created a Culture of Hate back in the last century. Their great & grandchildren are following in their footsteps but at new levels of hatred not seen before. Blaming. Jews is the cheap way out. An iron fist may lead to more violence. But appeasement will reward this savage behavior and lead to street warfare.
2. but why?
(11.07.14)
Israel may lose Jerusalem under Netanyahu and, as Abbas predicted, then cease to exist. The question is why? Netanyahu made mistakes: building freeze on Jews in Jerusalem, allowing unlimited Arab land grabs, Aharonovitch as police minister, Livni as Justice Minister. But not everything is Netanyahu's fault. Because of the Arab civil war, Egypt found itself fighting Hamas, while Iran had suspended supplies to Hamas. Hamas was in desperate state and seemed on the verge of collapse. In an act of desperation, in June Hamas launched rocket bombardments of Israeli civilians, hoping to ignite an Intifada in Judea, Samaria and maybe Egypt, or draw Hezbolla to attack. Netanyahu set-out to methodically dismantle Hamas military. "Protective Edge" was an amazing success, neutralizing Hamas' surprises, but then the unbelievable happened: Obama openly allied himself with Hamas, imposing an arms embargo, closing the airport, and coordinating the "dead baby" blood libel. Hamas became the darling of the international Left and Western governments; Abbas took the hint and abandoned any pretext of being moderate. Now Netanyahu has to think what to do in a world where Israel-hating Obama has two more years in power where he has nothing to lose, openly supports the genocidal Hamas and gloats that he helped Iran get nukes.
3. Core Block always for Jewish Security Control
Zechariah   (11.07.14)
The Core Block has Always been for Jewish Security Control of Jerusalem the Arabs want Tanks and Missiles .The Internationalization of the Holy Basin will not be enough for Hamas or Fatah Long Term .They are committed to causing alot of Trouble for the Jewish State as a Revenge for its Existance and victories .Nevertheless there are Unnecessary Provocations and Likud ought call Habayit Hayehudis Bluffs .Even with twenty seats they cannot Govern .
4. Bring on the WAR, only gutless athiests are afraid
David ,   Jew-rusalem   (11.07.14)
the G-d of Israel will slaughter the godless gentiles...
5. nuff with shlumiel predictions on front pages
Giddi   (11.07.14)
Please Ynet quit letting your weazles spreading malice and false predictions especially front page center .... ACHIEVING WHAT? Come on Ynet enough with the lefty gibberish of fear and intimidation thats how you play into the Perpetrators hands they want you to live in fear Stop the noise already print something we can accept or you will go by the way of Haaretz which nobody reads these days
6. False Messiahs
Sol Melzer ,   Ramjat Hasharon   (11.07.14)
Unconfirmed report-:The False Messiah, Shabtai Zvi,,has been reincarnated and living in Caeseria.
7. !! Reports of Bibi's Demise as Frequent as of Apple
Ovadiah ben Avraham ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (11.07.14)
Apple is doomed. Apple is failing. Apple can't innovate anymore! Apple is out of ideas. Apple revenue & stock are doing fine. So are Bibi's poll numbers, which reflect the public approval of his policies. Argo.
8. Well, as long as Mr. Poroshenko busy shooting Jewish people
Miron ,   USA   (11.07.14)
in Ukrain Mr. Obama will have little to worry about on the Texas front. I heard he is cheap...
9. ISRAEL GOT THE LEADER THEY DESERVE
...DACON9   (11.07.14)
The Israelis have been blaming all Jews everywhere for its fault. Never taking responsiblity for its own wrongs and sins. AT THE FEET OF HASHEM IN 'HIS' OWN HOLY LAND THAT 'HE' GAVE TO ISRAEL TO TAKE CARE OF.... The corruptions the gay parades the gangsterism prostitutions slave trafficing ..not even to mention the one million fake jews from all around the world being shuffled in. The lack of belief wait...the lack of Torah and ISRAELIS HISTORY BEING TAUGHT IN SCHOOLS... ALL THAT IS HAPPENING NOW was prophesied already.. OUR LEADERS WILL FALL... All the world will be against Israel. NO SURPRISE. THE SOLUTION IS YA JUST GOTTA LEARN TO PRAY IN YOUR OWN WORDS TO HASHEM TO HAVE MERCY ON ALL OF US....when t he last war comes...it will be easy on us...
10. The Three idiot Musketeers: Barnea, Haber, and Shiffer
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (11.07.14)
11. That's exactly what idiot Musketeer Shiffer wants to happen
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (11.07.14)
12. Jerusalem, Europe and Obama
C   (11.07.14)
as usual, europe and obama blame the jews for the acts of terror committed by muslims in jerusalem. they consider that jews building apartments in jewish neighbourhoods of jerusalem is sufficient reason for muslims to go out and murder jews. what the christian europeans plus americans share with the muslims is a ferocious colonial past which has resulted in the deaths of tens of millions of native peoples and the destruction of entire cultures and native religions. despite two thousand years of exile, persecution, expulsion and genocide, the colonialists have not managed to destroy the jewish nation, religion or culture. jerusalem is a jewish city and was invaded, conquered and colonized by arab muslims. the imperial religious wars waged by muslims continue to this day throughout the middle east, even among muslim sects and ethnicities. the europeans and obama want to throw israel to the wolves to advance their own imperialistic agendas. they want to give jerusalem to the muslim imperialists in a grand bargain about oil, gas, rights of passage, nuclear weapons and geopolitics.
13. Shiffer salivating at both ends!This guy'll be lost without
(11.07.14)
"Bibi" :-)
14. & G-d 4bid he's a heart beat away from losing Israel!
(11.07.14)
we need to hold elections and vote this man out of office.
15. If Anything Obama Can Punish Netanyahu
World Citizen ,   the world   (11.07.14)
The Democratic Party has lost the election but that actually frees the president of US to say and do what he wants. He controls the State Department. He can instruct his ambassador to the UN to veto or not veto any resolution concerning the Palestinian people or the apartheid conditions on the West Bank. Bibi may be gloating about the US elections but he will not push his luck lest Obama cut off the money and open to doors to positive open relations with Iran and the Palestinian nation.
16. above
moishe   (11.07.14)
nonsense. there will never be peace with Arabs/Moslems in ME and beyond till every Jew is gone from the area. like Christians our very presence means that their religions are not supreme. don't be fooled by the intellectuals. might is right. god or somebody helps those that help themselves.
17. The Plo sided with the hamashole & that was redline crossed
beat the arabs at ,   their game, WAR!   (11.07.14)
18. #15 We are going to impeach the bastard he ain't going
anywhere but to a ,   treason trial   (11.07.14)
19. Stupid comments.
David ,   Hartford USA   (11.07.14)
There is nothing less than a holy war, a jihad, going on in Jerusalem. That's exactly what Abbas and Arafat have worked for. This is how Islam is spread- through street fighting and intimidation. Israelis watching over their backs at train stations, at bus stops, anywhere Jews congregate. Will a car come at me on the sidewalk? Will a construction vehicle attack a bus or my car with my kids in it? This is Islamic terror, the NORMAL manner in which Islam spreads its tentacles. North, south, west, and east Jerusalem belong to Israel. If the Muslims can't live peacefully, kick them out, just like all those Arab countries did to their Jews in 1948 and 1967. The world may scream 'ethnic cleansing,' but when a population refuses to live in peace, that's the only option. Do not give in, do not give up. Jerusalem, all of it, is Israel.
20. Bigoted mobs don't stop when you try to have a "dialogue."
Matt C ,   Canada   (11.07.14)
The idea that talks alone are a magic solution to all of Israel's problems with Islamic extremism is a dangerous delusion that needs to be put out to pasture. The reality is that this sort of hatred has been taught from birth and will not easily disappear regardless of what deals Abbas may or may not agree to. Pretending otherwise runs the risk of more Gaza disasters that would weaken Israel further in the face of regional and local Islamic extremism.
21. #4 - Don't count on God
Barry ,   Boston   (11.07.14)
The Jews have been exiled twice from Israel. God didn't prevent exile then and won't prevent it now especially with the hatred that spews out from these talkbacks.
22. TANAK, New Testament and the Quran.
Jerusalem   (11.07.14)
The Muslim Quran states that the only thing the Jews and Christians have to stand for are the Gospels and the Laws of their Lord. It's interesting that it's written "their Lord". For this to be accomplished, one has to be familiar with the Jewish Scriptures, TANAK, and the Christian Scriptures, the New Testament. Interesting how scripture in the book of Isaiah states that it would be a renewal, not new. Well, now, you can have the renewal of the Christian Old Testament, the Jewish TANAK, and the Christian New Testament with the concurrence of the Muslim Quran. It's possible. Still looking for the Levi. Granted, the Torah hasn't been completed and has the majority of the attention but the Writings and the Prophets still have their place. Shabbat Shalom.
23. Shiffer is right on target! good article..
Rafi ,   US   (11.08.14)
24. Am Yisrael Stands Alone, as for 5,000 years
ASTRONAUT ,   USA   (11.09.14)
"What happened in Washington has nothing to do with what is happening in Israel's capital." Correct. Because for 5,000 years, The 12 Tribes of Israel insist on warring amongst themselves about non-issues like keeping Kosher to politics: never about UNITING as ONE. Even as the Arab wolves surround you and howl for more blood, Israeli and Diaspora Jews play the game of "I Blame You You Blame Me."
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