Opinion  Guy Bechor
The new Euro-Muslim states
Guy Bechor
Published: 22.12.14, 00:33
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1. quotas anyone?
avramele   (12.22.14)
Readers are advised to do some independent internet research on the muslim populations in Europe. The percentages in this article are highly suspect. Looking at the EU as a whole the percentage of muslims is most probably in the vicinity of 6%, in France under 10%, UK and Sweden around 5% and Belgium around 6%. The notion that a group can corrupt a society with such percentages is reminiscent of early to mid 20th century anti semitism. Need I remind all of the ethnic quotas imposed after WW1 in America that doomed millions of our people? Is the author suggesting a new "white paper" for Europe?
2. A very sober article and an exception on Ynet
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (12.22.14)
3. those who have harmed Jews have paid a very heavy price
CJK   (12.22.14)
all the empires that harmed, exiled the jews and committed genocide on them have disappeared. today, the muslims are slaughtering each other. that is their punishment for persecuting jews and the jewish state of israel.
4. Eu has more benefit with Muslims than Israel
Onas ,   Türkiye   (12.22.14)
Europe has realized Israel only demands and complains and whines and lies and thieves and deceivers. No one wants to be associated with a nation of ungrateful rascals like that. Its time to keep Israel in check. EU did good job taking Hamas off terrorist list, now Hamas needs to be trained as professional army and armed with modern weapons.
5. 1
CJK   (12.22.14)
muslims commit acts of terror in all those countries. in france, muslim terror has existed for at least four decades. today, jews are being attacked regularly by muslims all over the continent. the head of the bbc has openly asked whether jews can continue to live in the uk. comparing peaceful productive jews with intolerant muslims who commit acts of terror is shocking. furthermore, european muslims are being incited by muslims states and their religious institutions. saudi pays for schools and radical mosques. iran supports terror proxies.
6. Luton
Mike Carmel ,   Rishon le Zion   (12.22.14)
Luton is definitely NOT the third largest city in England, far from it. It's way down the list.
7. Europe, the lost continent.
tiki ,   belgium   (12.22.14)
Like the whole Middle East, once was a Jewishd/Christian entity but was forcefully taken over by Islam, today Europe & the rest of the world is on it's way. The building of the Caliphate = IS is what's happening and the West has only itself to blame for grovelling & blaming Israel will not stop the process. Israel should stop the mingling into internal Israeli affairs of Islamic Europe by boycotting her as a member of the quartet.....if not, she has only herself to blame. Europe has no business in dealing with Israel for she did enough damage in her colonial period.
8. It's the 11th and 12th Century in reverse
Sagi   (12.22.14)
A Crusade is under way. I have been saying this for years and people only ridiculed me. If the Western democracies do not recognize this openly and stop their constant denial and their stupid mantra,"it is only a small minority of radicals", then we shall all be in big trouble. It can be likened to a snake that has to be killed when it is young. I fear it is too late. I am about to make my exit from this world so I shall not live to see te takeover, but my children and grandchildren will be very unfortunate indeed, if they survive that is.
9. Just imagine...
mike heine ,   berlin, germany   (12.22.14)
... the shockwaves it would cause if this article were published in Germany - with a tiny alteration: replace the word "muslim" with the word "jews"...
10. answer to CJK @#5 waht would have been your fate in 1940?
avramele   (12.22.14)
American immigration policies of the 1920's were a direct result of the "red scare" of that period. Because the American left had a disproportionate number of Jews we collectively were targeted by those policies. (At its high mark BTW no more 30-35% of Jews voted for the Socialist presidential candidate Eugene Debs.) My American family came before the gates were closed, our Israeli family in the Third Aliyah of the 20's, and those remaining in Europe suffered the fate of the six million with a single handful of exceptions. They were not "red", mostly Ger Hassidim actually. It is not a false comparison to say that most European muslims, whatever their politics and dislikes, are not terrorists and are no more a threat to Europe than my martyred great Uncle Shaya, the melamed of his shtetl, would have been to America. By the time he and the rest of my family was ready to flee Poland both British and American policies conspired against them.
11. Quotas
ilana ,   Israel   (12.22.14)
No. 1 is right that the statistics in this article are highly suspect, to say the least. Luton is certainly not the 3rd largest town in England, couldn't be bothered to check the rest. However, what is not at dispute is that Muslims have a much higher birthrate than the rest of the population, so their proportion will certainly increase in coming years, and this will have many implications for western society. Whether or not the answer is quotas is a difficult question, although comparisons with the Holocaust are also not appropriate, as these Muslims are not facing genocide in their home countries. A more reasonable suggestion would be a points-based immigration system.
12. Innaccurate information about Luton
Avi ,   Ramat Gan, Israel   (12.22.14)
This article claims that Luton is "the third largest city in England." This is blatantly inaccurate. Luton has a population of approximately 200,000 people. Please check your facts.
13. Don't overestimate your importance
European   (12.22.14)
Israel is just one of many items on our agenda, so calm down your paranoid ego.
14. Stupid beyond belief
Daniel   (12.22.14)
It's nothing new that each column by Bechor is made up of invented "facts" and weird insinuations. Anyone following the news are aware that Europe is decreasing immigration drastically and Europe is engaged in fighting Islamism in both Africa. Bechor, with his rabid hate of Europe, sees only what he wants to see, and make up "facts" as those in this article when reality does not fit his views. If anyone seriously believes this nonsense, that person must be totally disconnected from news and reality.
15. #6
Daniel   (12.22.14)
You're absolutely right, but remember that Bechor prefers making up "facts" like that, given that real facts would contradict his homespun stories.
16. Small question
Daniel   (12.22.14)
Doesn't it bother anyone that Bechor just makes up the "facts", all of his statistics are hilarious and lack any connection to reality. As #6 points out, it's hard not to laugh when Luton is described as the third biggest city in the UK, or when reading this insanely inflated estimations of Muslims in Barcelona. No matter if you share Bechor's views or not, wouldn't you think that using accurate statistics instead of just making things up would be preferable. This has nothing to do with opinions and views, just with trying to be accurate.
17. Luton isnt even a city,far from 3rd largest.Flawed article.
Bryce   (12.22.14)
Why don't you proof read what You write. Once I see or read anything with flawed figures I click off and loose any respect for the article and author.
18. Bechors Paranoia
Jez ,   Netanya   (12.22.14)
Guy Belchor follows a traditional Israeli pattern when he rants about Muslims in Europe. Lets not forget that 20% of our population is Muslim. I cannot vouch for the accuracy of his figures apart from those in Luton, England. Luton is not the third largest city in England. With a population of about 240,000 it is defined as a town rather than a city. If the rest of his statistics are as accurate the article is hysterical claptrap. Incidently the UKs Muslim population is a little less than 3% so even to numbers skeptics if the number is 100% wrong that still makes them less than 6% - as against our 20%
19. Jews are afraid again
Erich Ol   (12.22.14)
And the speaker of jews (Zentralrat der Juden)in germany is also afraid and is always on the muslim side.I think o know why.If he say one bad word about muslims,muslims will attack jews like it was in the last gaza war.
20. Third Generation Muslims
Bob   (12.22.14)
Third Generation American Muslims don't go to Mosque at all. They think it's stupid that Mosques keep women out. Watch the trailer of unmosqued on you tube.
21. Beam me up Scotty ;) ,...
split ,   US   (12.22.14)
A dude from tiny country depending on handouts, overflowing with double digit black hatted unruly families of parasitic in your face tribe is worrying about Europe's future ,... Here's the picture I see - They're going to use Muslims to get rid of Jews and when they're done they will get rid of Muslims and share that beautiful place only with those who want to assimilate will contribute and blend in.
22. 10
CJK   (12.22.14)
you need to read the news. muslims are slaughtering each other throughout the middle east. in france, muslim terror attacks are a common phenomenon. if the intelligence services were not vigilent, there would be many more attacks with mass casualties. islamism and political islam are spreading and are a threat everywhere. saudi and other rich gulf states finance radical mosques and madrassas. iran actively engages in acts of terror both in the middle east and world wide through hezbollah and al quds forces. the islamic state as well as the muslim brotherhood are salafi movements which want to impose sharia world wide. these movements did not arise ex nihilo. they are the product of the religion of islam. islam teaches submission and superiority.
23. 16Daniel , Churchill said:all statisics
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (12.22.14)
are lies,except those i invent.
24. 8Sagi,don't give up ! Your skills
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (12.22.14)
are needed to fight the anti-Jewish media terrorism. May you live until 120 in good health,Sagi.
25. To nr 18 "Traditional Israeli pattern?"
Alexander ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (12.22.14)
If you are an anti-Semitic goy or a self-hating Jew, what are you doing in Israel if you hold such prejudiced and racist opinions about the Jewish/Israeli people? 20% of Israel's population is Moslem - and will drop in the future, due to falling Arab-Moslem fertility rates and rising Jewish/Israeli fertility rates in Israel. Israel's ethnic Jewish/ethnic Israeli fertility rates are far and away the highest in the Western world - close to 3 children per fertile woman. Moslems constitute somewhere between 5-10% of several European countries' populations - and rising. Europe's average fertility rate is well below 2 Children, which means Europe's demographic implosion is irreversible. The future European society will be a demographically imploded welfare society consisting mainly of senior citizens. Europe's future is grim indeed and its debatable whether Europe will become Euro-Arabia or Euro-Gravia. Both Arab demographics and Europe's self-defeating demographics will finish off the European civilization as we know it. The question is which of these two will finish off Europe first. And remember: these are not my "wishes" or intentions - these are observations of what's going on inside Europe.
26. Luton
(12.23.14)
according to public records, luton is one of three uk towns outside of london where white brits are a minority. ideologies and politics in luton are extreme on both sides.
27. Euro muslim cities
abb ,   London   (12.23.14)
Luton is the 80th biggest town in the UK - not the third!
28. Luton
PAUL FIRMIN ,   OAKHAM UK   (12.23.14)
By no stretch of the imagination is Luton "the third largest city in England." Please get your facts right. best wishes Paul
29. Europe islamization
Mario ,   Raanana. Israel   (12.23.14)
Bravo.! Nobody wants to use the very real words like you use it but this is the situation. Europe almost felt. And we have to take care of ourselves if we don't want to be only history.
30. Dear Mr. Bechor
Johanna ,   Mikkeli, Finland   (12.23.14)
I'm amazed how ignorant you are. You call yourself a journalist? First of all, there are around 30 countries in Europe and all of them have different situations. For example Baltic and eastern countries have no problem with muslim immigration. Then some (like Sweden) have huge problems. There are lots of towns/cities with no muslims - if that is your "thing". You honestly think that we are only dealing with Israel or the Jews? Hah.... That's a minority issue in our continent but it may be a big issue to you. Dear Mr. Bechor. Don't worry about us. Use your energy to solve problems in Israel, because those internal issues are far greater threat to you than we, the evil "nazi-Europeans". And trust me, there are no muslim "masters" in Finland!
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