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Anger in Israel after 'Homeland' compares Begin to terrorist
Ran Boker
Published: 23.12.14, 23:10
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1. Truth hurts?
James ,   USA   (12.24.14)
You cannot rewrite history. Jews conducted terrorist operations by today's definition in fighting against the British Mandate Palestine. Of course, Israelis dont want to talk about this part of their history.
2. Comparing true Jewish freedom fighters to bloodthirsty
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (12.23.14)
Muslim terrorists.
3. I'm sorry...but WHO CARES??
JtC ,   Nir Eliyahu / Jhb   (12.24.14)
Seriously, it's a fictitious CIA drama series. Average Americans can hardly point out Israel on a map of the world, why would we expect them to have any understanding of the Arab Israeli conflict or the history of the region? And besides, it's a commercial TV series, trying to stir up controversy for the sake of publicity for the sake of ratings, so why the surprise or anger?
4. That's not all ,...
split ,   US   (12.24.14)
Begin and almost all of his 4000 homies deserted from Gen. Anders Army* in Palestine on their way to N. Africa to join Montgomery and fight Nazis. They stole arms, ammunition and everything they could leaving their fellow soldiers without weapons and medications delaying their arrival in Africa for weeks ,... * Polish Army formed in Soviet Union as a result of Stalin-Allies agreement. For details on this subject read: "Anders and the Soldiers of the Second Polish Corps" by Harvey Sarner.
5. Gambling in Casablanca?
Avramele   (12.24.14)
EZL and acts of terrorism? I'm shocked! Round up the usual anti-Semitic suspects.
6. I could be wrong
sheik rattle & roll ,   USA   (12.24.14)
But isn't the director and producer an Israeli citizen that was born and raised in Israel? Isn't the show based on an Israeli series that the Israeli produced for an American audience? The bottom line is Homeland is one of the best shows on television and it is fiction, however there is an old saying, one man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist. Look at US history of supporting the Taliban and calling them freedom fighters when they where fighting the Soviet Union, That sure came back and bit us in the ars and then in Iraq when the US paid the Sunni's in Anbar province that now fight for ISIS and Obama taking Cuba off the list of terrorist nations and Israel negotiating directly with Yasser Arafat at Camp David.
7. Terrorists
Nadya ,   California, USA   (12.25.14)
It's not clear to me why the Irgun and other Jewish terrorist groups are different than what you call Palestinian terrorists? Jews were fighting for their State as the Palestinians are fighting for theirs. Why is one O.K. But the other not? No hasbara please.
8. @#7 re. Palestinian terrorists
Replying to Nadya   (12.25.14)
Kindly use some logic...since 1948 Israel has legally reclaimed its own territory/country which had been taken over by a succession of rapacious invaders. The group of people who currently call themselves "Palestinians" never owned nor controlled Judea, Samaria nor any of the so-called "disputed" areas. Some of these people's ancestors, very very few, might have lived there for several centuries in the past but the majority of today's "Palestinians" are descendants of immigrants who arrived in that area AFTER the Jews initiated their country's land reclamation efforts in the 1880's. The claims of the Israeli Jews to their ancestral lands are by definition MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE with the illegitimate claims made by any latecomers. Accordingly any violent action that entails harm to Israeli Jews and their property to attempt to illegally seize Israeli lands are ipso facto terrorism .
9. To: No. 1
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (12.24.14)
So how would you characterize the mass murder of tens of millions of native Americans by colonial invaders? At least the Jewish people were returning to their ancient homeland. What's Colonial America's excuse? And the massacres of native Americans continued well into the twentieth century. Talk about this part of American history, why don't you? You know, the war criminal and crimes against humanity part.
10. Jared N Silver @ FB ,...
split ,   US   (12.24.14)
"The founding of Israel was based upon the actions of those who overwhelmingly did not support such actions nor subscribe to terror" ,... What a peaceful nation but it looks that despite their peaceful mindset it didn't prevent those 'overwhelmingly' opposed to such actions to elect this deserter and terrorist to represent them as their 6th Prime Minister ;) ,...
11. All talkbackers are taking this remark wrong way -
barbara ,   Haifa   (12.25.14)
I also saw this episode and almost jumped when CIA agent Dar Adal said "Menachem Begin killed 91 British soldiers at the King David hotel before he became prime minister." We, and Saul Berenson already know that Adal is a traitor, working with the Afghan Taliban. So Berenson is letting this traitor say whatever brainwashed propaganda he wishes - Berenson is now working for him so that he can catch him 'red-handed'. Don't be angry about remark - it was put in there on purpose to prove a point against Adal.
12. #8 ,...
split ,   US   (12.25.14)
According to what sources and when your, grey eyed/pale faced nomadic tribe owned or controlled Judea, Samaria? ,... Except in your fairytales pointing to Hebrews as tribes there's no reliable source or proof that there was an independent state called Israel, no mention in any historical records of state/nations that no doubt existed there. Until the end of 19 Century there was no trace of pale-faced nomads called Ashkenazi or black hatted/modestly wrapped Haredi freaks in that part of the world ,...
13. Oh realy?
Otto ,   Deutschland   (12.26.14)
And? Wasn't he a terorist? :-) That hotel full with people had of course a gas-leak ;-)..... And Irgun was of course just a humbler NGO :-)))) ...;-) Well, read your Mr. Begin and ask yourself which "nice Austrian" could say the same imbecilities: "Our race is the Master Race. We are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves." (Menachem Begin Israeli Prime Minister 1977-1983) So please just shut up with your Snow-White-heroes, you.. Master-Race
14. To: No. 6
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (01.15.15)
You are wrong. The initial show was developed, produced and aired in Israel. Showtime bought the rights and promptly rewrote the screenplay. The American version and the Israeli original have nothing in common. By the way -- just so you know -- the American version's plot is patently absurd. The serving director of the CIA is not permitted to leave the continental United States. Talk about playing fast and loose with the truth!
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