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Tzohar, Israel Bar Association launch new prenuptial agreement
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Published: 07.03.15, 21:49
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1. It sounds very good and equal.
(03.07.15)
2. This "rabbi" thinks he's smarter and more learned than
Don't we have enough ,   Mamzerim?   (03.08.15)
the Grand Rabbis of previous generations and the Rishonim and Aharonim.
3. How prevent murder in a fit of rage?
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (03.08.15)
I think that the unpopular right to negotiate to getting the get slows down an eventual killing anger that happens to often in the non-Jewish society. If we don't find a way to prevent murder,than better being chained than living under constant threat of being murdered. I am afraid that the remedy is worse than the disease.. Changing Tora laws is a very big responsibility...
4. The problem with most of these ...
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (03.08.15)
... "marriages" is that it is the wife who brings the money, so that the husband can "study." He has no money of his own; his only recourse is to demand ridiculous sums before agreeing to a get. The initiative does not address that. I'm all for preserving Jewish marriage, but not if it will permit lazy, penniless "scholars" to hold their wives hostage. There needs to be a way to simply issue a get if the husband is not willing to do so himself. Without that, better these women remain single. Or find a husband that actually works for a living. Being a "Torah scholar" is not a living. It's a parasitic condition.
5. 3 Ora
robert ,   antwerp belgium   (03.08.15)
The argument that it would be better to leave a woman chained to a potential murderer by a mariage she doesn't want anymore is selfdefeating.If that husband has murderous instincts, it would be on the contrary better to liberate her faster.
6. 5 Robert,the way you present it ...
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (03.08.15)
you are right .But does, a warm blooded guy who kills in a moment of rage, have murderous instincts? Not necessarily,in my opinion.
7. 4 Sarah
robert ,   antwerp belgium   (03.08.15)
I do not agree with your definition of Thora scholars being parasites. The Jewish people need Thora scholars to maintain the specificity of the Jewish people which is to work toward spiritual perfection through the commandments. However, the actual system of Jeshivot and kolelim is unsustainable and should be reformed
8. #7 Your opinion is not according to Torah
HIstory nut ,   Israel   (03.09.15)
Only one person was commanded specifically to have a Torah and study it and that was the king. There were no paid scholars. It is everyone's responsibility to study Torah, without pay.
9. 7 history nut but not so informed
(03.09.15)
In ancient times, people were paying 10% of their income to the levites, who beside singing in the temple and attending to different chores were also teaching the Thora and it's laws . They were also paying 2% of their income to the priests + parts of each annimal being offered wether communal or private(to atone for sins).In addition, half a golden shekel per capita was given yearly to the temple. In fact a much bigger percentage of each and everyone income was going to the temple , the levites and priests than is going today to talmudic students. So, looking in a historical way, religion is a much lighter financial "burden" today than before
10. #9 Selective and still incorrect
HIstory nut ,   Israel   (03.10.15)
But the priests and levites weren't commanded to teach. You build your case on a false premise. Moshe rabenu didn't choose priests exclusively or perhaps not at all (the seventy) to share the responsibility of helping decide mishpat.
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