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Study: Holocaust trauma can be genetically transmitted
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Published: 22.08.15, 18:21
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1. Not surprising. See the PBS show 'Ghosts in Your Genes'
David ,   Hartford USA   (08.22.15)
It showed that the grandchildren of survivors of the Irish Potato Famine had changes in their genes due to the famine, even though they themselves hadn't experienced it first hand, and hadn't even been born for decades to come. The legacy of the Nazis will be with generations to come. And that sickening truth brings us to today. The world's powers must resolve to eradicate ISIS and all the Muslim terror groups as soon as possible, by all means available. Boko haram, ISIS, etc., should be hunted down and destroyed. There is no alternative. The Muslim murderer on the French train proves this point.
2. Cause or Symptom?
N ,   N   (08.22.15)
The children do not only inherit the epi-genetic markers - they also learn from their parents. How is it possible to distinguish between "epi-genetic markers cause behavior X" and "behavior X causes the variation of epi-genetic markers"?
3. Suck ignorant comments
Justin ,   Leav'er   (08.23.15)
Go look up epigenetics, (emphasis on EPI) and the effect environment has on genes.
4. 2 all the skeptics please c study re: 1836 famine study
Jew-C ,   JewLandia (Israel)   (08.23.15)
There have been several epigenetics studies carried out in Sweden to track the results of the 1836 famine in Sweden...and you know what the gene markers in the descendants of the people who survived the famine changed. So let's have a realistic think about this... Swedes are goyim meaning they are Human Beings. Holocaust survivors are Jews, Gypsies, and other Europeans meaning they are Human Beings. The 1836 famine changed the genes and chemical markers of the Swedes and their descendants. The Holocaust changed the genes and chemical markers of the Holocaust survivors and their descendants. These are scientific studies. Clearly they are scientific studies that are way way beyond your level of understanding and so your stupid is speaking. Please do consider being silent for a bit and going to study BEFORE your next post!
5. Justin Wayne Coldwell u r an insouciant churl...
Jew-C ,   JewLandia (Israel)   (08.23.15)
you are lower than whale excrement at the bottom of the ocean. ...and also you need to stop using computers and smart phones because ALL of them have Israeli invented and produced micro-components inside of them... Yea your computer and phone are made by Israelis! May I strongly urge you to boycott both of them!
6. Conclusion - The Germans should pay forever ;) ,...
split ,   US   (08.23.15)
This so called 'study' was invented to build a case to continue milking the future generations of Germans. Have anyone study the impact of holodomor, an artificially created famine in Ukraine by Stalin's goons Kaganowich Yagoda administrating and implementing this genocide or the 'great leap forward' and 'cultural revolution' in China conceived and administrated by S. Rittenberg resulted with dozens of millions starved Chinese peasants? How about the Palestinian generations living in refugee camps for decades, are they affected?
7. Yes, fear while carrying a child in utero affects the unborn
Rivkah   (08.23.15)
child, most often by causing heart defects. A heart defect is connected to more readily contracted post traumatic stress disorder from events in life. The neurological defects could be from the birth mother being toxic from mercury or aluminum or other toxic heavy metals that are transmitted into the unborn fetus. If the mother is toxic from eating garbage foods and breathing garbage air, of course that affects children born after the holocaust occurred. I met some holocaust survivors in the San Diego and Los Angeles and Tucson I lived in those cities decades ago and most did not have children because they could not bring children (psychological effect of holocaust on them) into such an evil world. The fear of the future for the children if born was apparent. So holocaust survivors who did have children would also have that fear of the future for the children which would affect the children in utero.
8. Israeli youths misbehaving at the Krakow Holocaus Memorial!
Ariel ben Yochanan ,   Kfar Tapuah, Efraim   (08.23.15)
B"H - I received first hand witness account of two Israeli groups of youths misbehaving at the Krakow Holocaust Memorial yesterday, 7 Elul, raising questions like "What are they coming here for if they don't care?" Organizations who sent their groups to the Krakow Holocaust Memorial yesterday, please recall them immediately and reprimand them according to the severity of the case!
9. Nature or Nurture
Adam Neira ,   Paris, France   (08.23.15)
You start with an assumption and then build on it to make false assumptions. The PBS program does point out that what happens in a person's life can affect the genes they pass onto their offspring. Another case of this is various Jewish communities in the Polish/Lithuanian Commonwealth area from 1300 to 1796 adopted very strict rules and codes when plague appeared in the region. Thus certain adaptive genes were passed onto their children. Today some Ashkenaz Jews are more resistant to various viruses than other people. (The Tay Sachs issue is a case of a negative side effect of various adaptive behaviors of previous Ashkenaz populations.) However, most dis-eases of today and cancers are caused by conditioning factors. i.e. The Nurture/Environment part. People looking for causation for various dis-eases by focusing on the genes of the person's ancestors are like those mystics who seek to find what a person's past life was like. The point being that there needs to exact evaluation of what things are caused by lifetime conditioning and what things are caused by the genes of one's parents.
10. Ghosts in Your Genes
Ruth ,   Boston, USA   (08.23.15)
David, you don't seem to realize that the ultimate victims of the Nazis are the Palestinians. They are the ones paying the price Holocaust descendants are exacting, though they had nothing to do with it. Muslim terror groups? Don't forget Israeli state terror, the seizure of Palestine to make a home for the Jews, who might more justly have been given a large chunk of Germany.
11. That's true.
Ex oleh chadash ,   Brasil   (08.24.15)
I'm second generation after WW II (I was born in the 70's). I have trauma , phobia from Germany and Germans. I learned a little of German , because Mozart and Haydn spoke that language: however, so did a whole people that voted for Hitler. Again: I have trauma from Germans. I also have trauma from Israelis - because I was oleh chadash, I was traumatized by mercaz klita.
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