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Speechless: The farewell address Israel's UN envoy should have delivered
Haim Ramon
Published: 24.09.15, 13:06
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1. And thanks god that Haim is where he is and Prosor was where
(09.24.15)
he was!
2. Face it. Pals only interested in the entire area from River
Alan ,   SA   (09.24.15)
to the sea! All this "peace talk" is just talk. They say : Jews must get out and go back to Poland France and USA etc..... but Jews definitely wont be accept back in the Arab/Muslim Lands if they came from there.... Just ask ISIS what their immigration polic y for Jews is. What would they do to Jews who came from Mosul for an example So only choice is to stay in Israel and fight (more than the hundreds of thousands healthy able bodied young males running to Europe are doing .... Why dont they stay and fight ISIS?Instead of running to EU for a free lunch! They are cowards and spongers.
3. How many times?
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (09.24.15)
We have reached out dozens of times only to be told over and over and over that no matter what we offer it is never enough. That they not only want it all but us dead as well. We refuse to surrender - now go suck an egg
4. haim ramon- a criminal ignoramus
mark   (09.24.15)
ramon who carried olmert's water and advocated tsipi livni's appeasement policies which israel death has the gall to rehash 2 state when israel has bent over backwards in the past with olmert ramon and barak to make concessions which wouldc have brought isil onto the kinneret. Yes, that was ramon's position like olmert-2 dumbells on the scare of herzog and lapid. What did israel get for it-amputated arms, legs, seared brains, broken bodies- this is what ramon brought. So shut up with your lousy 2 state. Go tell your speeches on 2 state to olmert when you visit him in jail.
5. The evil Two State Final Solution is dead!
Chaim ,   Israel   (09.24.15)
Haim Ramon should have used this worthless article to reach out to Israelis and apologize for all the suffering he, (and Labor and Kadima) have inflicted upon Israel. And continue to inflict upon Israel. Oslo alone cost tens of thousands of Israelis this lives and wellbeing. The evil Two State Final Solution is dead. All parties, who support the abomination, are dying off.
6. RAMON COMPOSES PROSOR'S SPEECH
Connie Mack ,   CAMDEN   (09.24.15)
Mr. Haim Ramon conducted a phenomenal campaign to unseat the incumbent chairman of Histadrut, Mr Haim Haberfeld. Later he left Histadrut with eyes on top ministries. It never materialized. "Instead of running for the top, Ramon became the ultimate consigliere to a succession of prime ministers: Yitzhak Rabin, Ehud Barak, Ariel Sharon and Ehud Olmert. They loved him and made use of his political talents, but always as merely a right-hand man. " He was not imprisoned for his assault on a female soldier despite his conviction. At least his friends did that for him. Now he is giving sage advice to a political opponent who is despised by everyone whom Mr. Ramon idolizes . . and loyally serves. Let us call a special assembly of the general assembly, invite Mr.Ariel Sharon's sons, Mr. Shimon Peres, Mr.Ehud Olmert, the other seven of the "GREAT WHITE HOPE YOUNG 8" and Abu Mazen. Let Mr. Ramon deliver the "speech that the most honorable Mr. Ron Prosor should have delivered. He will be tumultuously applauded and heralded as the savior of Israel, if only the electorate will vote for him and give him a well deserved chance. Let the voice of the people be heard. cm
7. RAMON GIVES FREE ADVICE
Connie Mack ,   CAMDEN   (09.24.15)
Mr. Haim Ramon conducted a truly phenomenal campaign to unseat the incumbent chairman of Histadrut, Mr Haim Haberfeld. Later he left Histadrut with eyes on top ministries. It never materialized. "Instead of running for the top, Ramon became the ultimate consigliere to a succession of prime ministers: Yitzhak Rabin, Ehud Barak, Ariel Sharon and Ehud Olmert. They loved him and made use of his political talents, but always as merely a right-hand man. " He was not imprisoned for his assault on a female soldier despite his conviction. At least his friends did that for him. Now he is giving sage advice to a political opponent who is despised by everyone whom Mr. Ramon idolizes . . and loyally serves. Let us call a special assembly of the general assembly, invite Mr.Ariel Sharon's sons, Mr. Shimon Peres, Mr.Ehud Olmert, the other seven of the "GREAT WHITE HOPE YOUNG 8" and Abu Mazen. Let Mr. Ramon deliver the "speech that the most honorable Mr. Ron Prosor should have delivered. He will be tumultuously applauded and heralded as the savior of Israel, if only the electorate will vote for him and give him a well deserved chance. Let the voice of the people be heard. Ramon gave free advice:that's what it's worth, perhaps less. cm
8. Whining is in your genes ,...
split   (09.24.15)
Lack of self-criticism and buffoonery is your trademark ,...
9. Daniela @ FB ,...
split   (09.24.15)
Educate yourself instead running your mouth and rehashing your smelly hasbara crap. Start with 'The Mythic Past' by Thomas L. Thompson ,...
10. if it is
samia   (09.25.15)
god option only -do not be so sorry -do not be so glad
11. TO MR. HAIM RAMON !!!
FO ,   Belgium   (09.24.15)
How long do you hope to lye, and to the Jewish people and to the world? No Mr. Ramon, it wasn't 68 years ago that an international assembly recognized the right for an Independent Jewish State. It happened, and at the San RĂ©mo Conference in 1920, and in 1922 when the League of Nations voted unanimously by ALL of its members, the Mandate for Palestine, that gave the Jews the IRREVOCABLE RIGHT for the creation of a Jewish State on the territory between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River, including the Golan Heights, a right that became International Law, valid to this very day, and last but no least reaffirmed by Article 80 of the United Nations' Charter!. ALL UNGA and UNSC resolutions and decisions concerning the division of Palestine, the so called "Palestinians", the "Oslo accords", the "two state solutions", etc, are all in BREACH of Article 80 and can be considered as NILL AND VOID! OK, Mr. Ramon, I understand your obsession, as well as those of your political partners, to hide as long as possible the fact that LEFT ZIONISM (!?) rejected the Idea of a Jewish Independent State (Read Nahum Sokolow's introduction to his two volume, History of Zionism) that could have been born in the early thirties, and would have prevented Hitler' Final Solution, the Shoah!
12. Is This the joke of the (new) Year Haim?
Lucifer69   (09.24.15)
13. There will be ***NO*** 2 state = final
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (09.24.15)
solution !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
14. 8
(09.25.15)
wht is in our genes is not whining. it is brilliance, prosperity, hard work and genius. something you polskies do not possess.
15. #8 Ditto....
Phil ,   Ireland   (09.27.15)
I see the same with your posts.
16. Shameful race supremism! Jewish exxtremism not needed.
e-moderates   (09.27.15)
Every man should be free. The leaders of Palestine should be shamed in to create fair policies for all of us. Of course, a Geneva Accord draft is the future, and will be realized as soon as the Palestinians can vote in a moderate stable government.
17. haim Ramon /prossor UN speech
Jill Samuels   (09.28.15)
I agree with Ramon. Prossor is a great self publicist. He was not popular in the UK and in my opinion alienated all the other embassys from the Israeli embassy but boats of his huge popularity I agree with Ramon it would have had a powerful inmpact had he done a speech like Ramon other than the speech he delivered. In my opinion half what he complains about he is responsible for. Our last British Ambassador would have delivered a brilliant speech and had to pick up the pieces after Prossor left Ramon would have delivered a great speech but Ron Prossor in my opinion is such a great self publicist he will still manage to allow the foreign office to think he is fantastic when infact he is well below average. We need to reach out the world and we need the world to reach out to us Ron is in my opinion has and never will be able to do this on behalf of the State of Israel or the Jewish People
18. A Better Speech - Would Be To Say
Tova ,   Canada   (09.29.15)
All of the Land in Israel. Jews must refrain from the using the word occupied. There is no occupation. If Israel continues to use the word occupation - it means that Israel is taking away her rights as a sovereign nation. Israel must not fall into the trap of using such words as occupation. As long as other nations in the world use the word. Israel must remind the world. The Occupation does not come from Israel. Rather the occupation of Israel was done by Arabs and countries who refused to accept Israel as a soverign Nation. Israel must not use wthe word Occupation. The West Bank is and always belong to Israel. Even Gaza belongs to Israel. This is the Speech I would give and close by saying. The people who call themsleves Palenstians we let you stay even though your origins are from the Aegean Sea. You are from the Greek/Mecodonian Empire. That to at least wake up some politians in the UN>
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