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Activist for army service for all: 'I'll tear my daughter's draft notice to pieces'
Nehama Duek
Published: 24.11.15, 21:38
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1. for israel's survival, orthodox have to go idf
jerzy   (11.24.15)
the orthodox leaders have to support training of the religious in the idf. ,. in israel and elsewhere, they are a drain on security. They act submissively and harm the safety of the jewish nation. Get the bloody into the idf-no evasion, no nothing.
2. Blame Herzog and Lapid
Sidney ,   California   (11.24.15)
They chose not to join a coalition with Netanyahu in order to bring the government down. Israel needs a government. Netanyahu formed a coalition in the only way that he could, giving in orthodox demands. Like the Left they do not give a damn about what's good for the country. There was no way in which the numbers allowed either of Herzog or Lapid to form a government.
3. Precisely because of these 1/2 naked women like Baron
C.Z.   (11.24.15)
that Haredim wouldn't dare step foot in this immoral military.
4. No. 2 - not very informed
Disillusioned   (11.24.15)
You really do have the wrong end of the stick. Nothingyahu didn't WANT Lapid and has spent the last 8 months doing his damndest to destroy every memory of that coalition, as it humiliated him so much. The haredim didn't want Lapid and have admitted, in their truly devoutly religious way, that their revenge against the equal burden law is to wipe from all records any memory of him. Netanyahu's coalitions are never based on the good of the country - everyone who lives here and knows him knows that - they are solely for his own survival. He's got used to being King Muck and will sleep with anyone and everyone in order to be superglued to his throne. People in the USA need to get themselves informed before pronouncing judgments.
5. #3 The naked truth
Disillusioned   (11.24.15)
Stop looking and you won't see! Get used to something: women have bodies. 7.9999 billion people consider this to be a normal feature. Keep your eyes in your holy books and you won't need to get upset about the most natural thing in the world.
6. #3, you are an idiot.
David ,   Hartford USA   (11.25.15)
Everyone read the article and you're trying to look down her blouse? You draft everyone or have a volunteer army. The Haredim will bleed from a terrorist's knife just as much as a secular Israeli. When psychopaths from Hizbollah or Hamas make plans to kill Israelis, they don't think twice about the victims being make or female, secular or religious, young or old. When your country calls, you go. The country cannot withhold that call for some and not for others. Miri is a great woman and Israeli patriot. Too bad the MKs don't have the integrity to support her.
7. All or none
Marvin Adelman ,   Las Vegas nv. Usa   (11.25.15)
My god this is a disaster for Isael Unless everyone very quickly comes to their senses. Everyone in Israel mus serve if the country can survive. My first recommendation is to force Netanahu and his click to resign
8. #2 You give this government too much credit....
HIstory nut ,   Israel   (11.25.15)
If ANY of them had half the balls of this woman they would have waited to form a government until it could leave out these poser religious freaks. But you must think these misfits from high school popularity contests are qualified to lead Israel, because of what, votes??? Being from california you probably have a seizure whenever someone says government shutdown. Pathetic.
9. Not Pschopaths though
Zechariah   (11.25.15)
We don'twant too many Pschopaths or Compensated Psychotics in an Army . Not sure the Haredim are fit for combat roles as a Group especially as Pilots . They ought be in axillary units cyberwarfare would be valuable with the Talmudic minds .
10. ISRAEL AND THE USA
Nicki Adar ,   USA NYC   (11.25.15)
IT IS TIME FOR ISRAELIS TO ADMIT THAT ISRAEL IS "AN AMERICAN PARKIN LOT" IN THE MIDEAST. ONCE ISRAELIS REALIZE IT, WOULD BE EASIER TO COPE WITH REAL REALITY. WORLD WIDE OPINION does not MATTER. USA ONE IS THE ISSUE. WE SAW HOW WORLD WIDE DID MATTER WW2. EVER SINCE ANCIENT TIME EVERY NATION THAR WANTED TO TAKE OVER THE ENTIRE WORLD "PICKED ON THE HEBREW=JEWS FIRST" AND NOW WE GOT "the nation of Islam" they want TO CONTROL THE ENTIRE WORLD. They believe IT WOULD BRING MASSIA FASTER . WOULD BE REAL GOOD FOR EVERY ONE to read their Koran. THEIR "GOOD DEED " THEIR NONESENSES . THEN ONE WOULD CONCEIVE WHAT THE F R E E WORLD FACE.
11. I support Miri Baron, Lapid - big change, tempora mutantur:
Scar ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (11.25.15)
Maybe even a revolution: "They take those who serve, those who carry the burden of service, for granted." Exactly. That´s the problem. Netanyahu is not only protecting the old and bad "tycoon-order" in Israel, which is very harmful to Israel, he is also playing with fire when he takes for granted that those who carry the burden will stay nice, calm and silent. It is going to be an uproar, a mess, and the horrible amendment will be a major stain on Netanyahus legacy. Stay strong, Mrs Baron.
12. Have we forgotten who we are?
BUILD BABY BUILD !!!   (11.25.15)
Most all of the ancients, the sages, Kings, prophets, were men of war. Just to survive, we must fight harder than any other people just to stay alive. Being a Jew means our religion separates us from the others. That, it would seem, threatens most others to the point of extinguishing us for our faithfulness. to our G-d. Then, on the other hand, if we don't act like Jews our G-d is displeased. So, I'll side with the G-d of Israel or, I cease to be Jewish, I become a Gentile. LOVE BUILDING BABY !!!!!
13. #5 It is a shame you and #3 go off the path to extremes....
HIstory nut ,   Israel   (11.25.15)
Are you kidding with don't look and normal? Since when, the last 60 years? Might want to check history before that on "normal" dress codes. And #6 down her blouse? Either of you ever think of what attractive means? Stick to the military service subject because the sexual exaggerations and by implication ad hominem are telling of your depth.
14. IDF Equality
Maurice ,   Netanya Israel   (11.25.15)
No truer words said. What's going to happen in the future when haredim may be the dominant population group due to their high birth rates. This is in addition to their having to be supported by government handouts. No reason why they can't combine military service with Torah study. The Hesder youth do!
15. IDF recruitment
Yaakov ,   Beer Sheva, israel   (11.26.15)
Lots of comments here. I am just very sick and tired of the religious receiving much better benefits from the government than the soldiers that defend us. Just equalize the situation and I'll be a much happier Israeli.
16. # 15 Amen that's the whole argument equality
BUILD BABY BUILD !!!   (11.26.15)
no 'religious' group is deserving of any special treatment or demands just for praying and reading the Torah. How many Jews, Christians also do that and serve in the army ? I hear even atheists pray in fox holes, that doesn't exempt them from service. FIGHT FOR ISRAEL 'IT'S WORTH IT.!!!!.
17. It is not a Burden
TruthMonger   (11.30.15)
It is a privilege to serve, while everyone should serve, no one should not serve because it is not equal.
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