Opinion  Nahum Barnea
The two-state bluff
Nahum Barnea
Published: 07.12.15, 22:41
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1.  Fallow Areas will Remain
Zechariah   (12.08.15)
Parts of Judea and Samaria will be Fallow for Decades . About 30% is unsettled nearly 2000sqkm . A Palestinian State of seven million is far off and it will require huge Demilitirization Verification. The large empty areas are the northern Coastal Sinai where Palestinians ought be allowed to live in their millions as Egyptian Citizens Security against Incitement by a large Multinational Force on High Wages and Highly Competent and Tough but not Barrel Bombers like Fatah -Baath . Egypt would receive huge aid to maintain Stability .
2. It takes two to make peace
Steven A. ,   Bay Area, USA   (12.08.15)
Israel cannot declare peace unilaterally. Peace must be accepted by the Palestinians. The idea that we should meet in the middle with the Palestinians is absurd. Do the police let the bank robber keep half the loot? Until the Pals are ready for peace, there will be no peace. Please do not pick up the American chant that Israel doesn't want peace. Don't make yourselves a whipping boy for Barack Obama.
3. It is Israel to decide in her game .
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (12.07.15)
of poker what she keeps and what she throws away.
4. USA has created territories for the indians...
Beary White ,   Norway   (12.07.15)
... any comments to apartheid inside USA??
5. Just forget it and build a binational state
Harri ,   EU   (12.08.15)
The whole world is sick and tired of this conflict. Binational state is the only logical solution that is left on the table. Jewish state was a beautiful dream, but it cant be build if there is no Jewish majority.
6. Tuco was right ! By the way, the two-
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (12.08.15)
state solution already produced the terror entity of Gaza...ANNEX JUDEA AND SAMARIA NOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
7. the delusion of two state solution: so say the nations
C   (12.07.15)
the nations, or more exactly, the great powers, never really wanted a jewish state. this is obvious when one looks at the partition map drawn up by the un: a little nothing rump state, basically cut in the middle, without the slightest strategic depth, a shmate state. at the time, ben gurion accepted this offer since he had no choice. however, anyone with the slightest understanding of geopolitics knew that this offered state could not survive, not militarily and not economically. the fact that the jewish state fought off five arab armies and arab islamic terror groups came as a shock to the nations. ever since then, the continued efforts have been to create an additional arab state, at the expense of the jewish state. the logistics of creating such a state do not interest the nations. they are both jew haters and slaves of the arab muslim world. they have managed to elevate the arab palestinians into veritable martyrs of jewish colonialism. yet, it was the muslims who had conquered and colonised the entire region and built mosques on top of the remnants of the jewish temples. the powers who pretend to speak for the jewish state have never attempted to find more practical or just solutions to the arab palestinian issue. the jewish state has grown from a little rump state into a regional power with a powerful military. the jewish state will prosper and survive despite all attempts to destroy her militarily, diplomatically and morally.
8. the real truth about the two state solution
C   (12.07.15)
the nations have convinced themselves that the arab palestinian issue is one of land. many even say it is about western colonialism. this is a false belief, based on muslim propaganda. indeed, muslims have been the colonialists for over a thousand years. the west actually liberated the arabs of the middle east from imperial ottoman rule. israel makes up a very tiny portion of the huge land mass of the arab middle east. so the question is why will not the arab muslims make peace and end the conflict. several israeli prime ministers have offered them a state. the truth is that the conflict is not about land but about religion. muslims refuse to accept a jewish sovereign on land they consider to be muslim land. such attitude will not change as long as the west bows down to the saudi princes and the iranian ayatollahs.
9. Quaran won't let them have two states
lee ,   Australia   (12.08.15)
They are forbidden in their book to make friends with a Jew . To do so is for them to deny their faith . So they'll lie through their teeth ..until they can see an opportunity.
10. Mr. Kerry: New haircut. Mr. Obama: Out of office.
JVC ,   LA, USA   (12.08.15)
11. "just forget it..."
Rube Vogel ,   Jerusalem   (12.08.15)
Dear Lambs, While it was a beautiful idea for you to have your own pen, due to the large number of lions, we are afraid that you will need to share your pen with them. sincerely, Zoo Management P.S. Yes we know the lions already have a hundred pens much larger than yours and you only have the one. Stop complaining all the time. P.P.S. Last week, a lion choked to death while trying to eat one of you lambs. Please note that the world is sick of this cycle of violence. The requisite condemnations are on the way.
12. Nachum sees the light
Larry ,   LA (formerly)   (12.08.15)
It is rare that Mr. Barnea sees the reality, but this time he is realizing that the US is missing, and missing badly. The US troops on the ground have a poor record and Mr. Obama is delusional in regards to Arabs. As for the PA, when was the last election held for president? No US mention of Abbas as being a dictator and that the PA is NOT a democratic government, but a corrupt group of self aggrandizing fools. Perhaps if some one were to mention that the Pals do not have equal opportunity to succeed and are held down by their own government they might actually realize that the idiots who are leading the Arabs are filthy corrupt. ISIS is not Israel's problem; it is the world's problem and if they haven't realized that Islam supports Islam and not democracy they still have not learned any lesson.
13. So yet again Kerry speaks but says NOTHING
Sammy ,   Newcastle   (12.08.15)
AT THE VERY MINIMUM he needs to press the Palestinian Leadership on behalf of Palestinians to CLARIFY PUBLICLY the Three Options for Statehood What is the answer to be 1. Three State Solution: Israel and Independent Gaza and Independent West Bank 2. Two State Solution:Israel and Unified Gaza and West Bank 3. Two State Solution: Israel and Palestine created from Greater Gaza formed from land exchanges of West Bank for parts of Negev and possible land purchases from Egyptian Sinai ONLY when that decision is made by Palestinians can we move forward TOGETHER. ONLY then can we negotiate MEANINGFULLY. ONLY then will we have a goal that we can aim to realise And yet as each day passes more and more Palestinians the world over are beginning to say OPTION 3… IS FOR ME
14. Looking into the future......
tiki ,   belgium   (12.08.15)
"Israel, the state that is losing it's charm to young Americans, including Jews". Just wait when young Muslims will take over America like they are taking over US campuses and neighbourhoods. Than let's judge how 'charming America will be for the not so young Americans & Jews.
15. Two states my ass!
(12.08.15)
Try that shit in any Arab nation and see what response you get. Or, try that in America and see how popular that crap is! Aint happening in Israel now or ever. After oabam's gone this shit will subside.
16. Kerry
Brad ,   USA   (12.08.15)
He's biological proof of warmed over stupidity. Islam is a seventh century death cult for apes and monkeys. NO TWO STATE SOLUTION! There, that ought to cover it.
17. The Israeli Solution and massive "Palestinian" departure
Chaim ,   Israel   (12.08.15)
Before Oslo, Israel was much smaller, less powerful and rich than today. Yet Israel had no problem managing our ancestral heartland of Judea and Samaria. The answer is the Israeli Solution. We need to claim every inch of our sole tiny Homeland. Let the evil abomination of "Palestine" fall. Massive "Palestinian" departure is very feasible. "Palestinians" are already leaving our land by the tens of thousands annually. We could ramp up these numbers to hundreds of thousands annually by investing in helping "Palestinians" leave. Instead of investing in making them richer; which simply makes them wealthier and more dangerous foes.
18. #5. The Jewish majority grows stronger each year!
Chaim ,   Israel   (12.08.15)
#5 Harri. You have been brainwashed by false "Palestinian" propaganda. Many credible American and Israeli studies prove Jews are a strong and growing majority in Israel; including Judea and Samaria., In fact, Judea and Samaria Jews have one of the highest birthrates in the Western World. "Palestinians" have overstated the Arab population of Judea and Samaria by over 1.5 million people.
19. right
John   (12.10.15)
Thats right!Ghandi and Brits made freedom,because they saw it will neve rend if they dont made peace.Violence was ok for the Brits but dont to much. With Hitler you cant made PEACE-he had killed all Indians if he was in power instead of the brits. The same is with the arabs,Specially today.They learn hating jews earlyer than in Hitler germany! Cancellor Helmut Schmidt(SPD)sayed that he didnt heard much propaganda against the jews when he was 14(100% Nazi time)he sayed only people who was interested in it read it and so on....and today 3 year old children say they want to kill jews...thats nearly impossible to live with people who where breed so. Thats the same if youre parents dont eat meat.you will also never touch it in 99%.
20. Quran is on the Jewish side
John   (12.10.15)
Quran says that the land belows to the jews(children of israel)!
21. Indians have own laws
John   (12.10.15)
Waht for Apartheid? The Indians have teir own territories with own laws and own police-other police has no right their!If they want to catch somebody the Indian policed must hand them out.Indians let only live indians live there.So its Indian aparthaid if you want. But Indians today are proud to be US Citizens.Thy greates hero for Indians is the guy who killed the most enemys-when they came back from Iraq or Afghnistan the Indians made big partys for their killer heros!So what do you say now?
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