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Shin Bet uses 'ticking bomb' methods on Jewish terror suspects
Yoav Zitun, Elisha Ben Kimon
Published: 24.12.15, 22:00
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1. this is a struggle for the fate of Israel - nothing less.
Rafi ,   US   (12.24.15)
And the right-wing fanatics/ thugs are at the door ! God give strength to the Shin Bet which is defending the integrity & future of the State of Israel! We can only pray that the govt will have a comparable backbone to stand up to thugs and hooligans.
2. heavy past.
Nick ,   Den Haag Holland   (12.24.15)
I remember the slaughter of the Family Fogel,but i wouldn't want to become like them.,we have to by the light of this world. Or not Merkel?
3. If there's no torture involved, how did one of the boys
Ariela Andrea ,   Krissman Deitch   (12.24.15)
If there's no torture involved, how did one of the boys (a minor!) land in Intensive Care?
4. Isis also defend their behaviour
Hershel Tessler   (12.24.15)
5. Ben Gvir
Ed Kurlansik ,   jerusalem Israel   (12.24.15)
I understand the need for everyone to have legal counsel - IF the ISA, Yaalon et al are speaking the truth, then Ben Gvir is lying - on behalf of terrorists who are putting milions of innocent Israelis, including those in YESHA at risk. His credibility is being stretched to the point of shame - I would think more than words, facts not allegations need to be brought forward to support his claims.
6. The government gave permission to torture?
Ted ,   Tel Aviv   (12.25.15)
So it seems that torturing these boys is fine and proper for a democratic society that wants to extract confessions and information? So where are the human rights groups? Every one is quiet since these are religious boys who happen to live in the West Bank? Disgusting behavior for our government.
7. Shabak agents came to the wedding disguised as guests
Michael B. Radovsky   (12.25.15)
Shabak (brown hoods in the video) crashed the wedding. Shahar Eshbal, the father of the groom, said he did not notice the photo of the baby or the firebomb at the wedding, and did not expect the public storm that erupted. "We were present at the event," he explained, "but naturally, people who come to an occasion like that walk around and you do not control what happens. It is something that suddenly surprised us." They were surprised when Shabak agents came disguised as guests and secretly started filming as they put their plan into action to make it look like the happy guests were being unruly and doing their "dance of murder." "Eshbal speculated that "someone may have intentionally wanted to turn everything around," because of the accusations that the suspects in the arson murder in the village of Duma last July have been tortured by the Israel Security Agency." He's right. Shabak is trying to 'payback' for exposing their torture of innocent Jews, instead of going after the feuding Arab families who are the real guilty parties that committed the arson attack
8. But they aren't the same.......
History nut ,   Israel   (12.25.15)
Misguided by religion but clearly understanding Israel must belong to someone. How are they like the murderous islamists? Do they have hundreds of years of tribal feuds and murdering each other and those in their way? There is no comparison. If the article is true, then they will confess to anything under the methods described.
9. at first glance
ky   (12.25.15)
I thought a tickling bomb was going to be used. Now I have heard of tickling torture but this seemed a bit way out. There again the thought occured they do seem a bit soft against these loose cannons, so they may have invented a bomb that tickles them in a way they may not like.
10. #3 - Ariela
A Jerusalemite ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (12.25.15)
Where did you pick up that particular lie? Learn to investigate your sources, before you repeat disinformation...
11. wilfull murder of civilians, children in particular,
C   (12.25.15)
is abhorent. whosoever commits such crimes with premeditation and malice must pay the price of imprisonment after due process and public trial. the issue of a "ticking bomb" presents governments with very difficult issues. the government is charged with insuring national security and public order. the government is also charged with ensuring that humanitarian laws are respected. there are times when these two principles clash, especially since the enemies of the state do not adhere to the principles of democracy and fair governance. indeed, the enemies of the jewish state exploit the state's democratic impulses to wreak havoc and mayhem and engage in acts of terror with the aim to destabilise the state from within. under such circumstances, and with regard to specific individuals, the state was given permission to use enhanced interigation methods. such method must never include sexual abuse or sexual degradation. sexual abuse or sexual degradation violate the dignity of the participants on all sides. an individuals sexual life is the most intimate and private part of his life.
12. Shabak methods
Howard K. ,   Israel   (12.25.15)
Shameful behavior on all sides.....
13. Ticking bomb:State of palestine...
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (12.25.15)
passports and it's author.And what if he is the instigator of these investigations?After all ,Israel doesn't profit but the enemies of Israel do. Time to clear the focus on the real Israeli issues.The bomb is indeed ticking. May G-D protect Israel and open the eyes of Jews to see that they must be united in the first place to stand. Am Israel Hai. Shabat Shalom.
14. 21st century blood libel by Zionists.
MBR   (12.25.15)
Hopefully people will wake up and see the Shabak for what they are: ZIONIST PROVOCATEURS.
15. Bibi &Shabak need holidays...
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (12.25.15)
They are exhausted .As reinforcing a plan that doesn't work is a sign they lost the sight of the real issue.They need after some rest to review the situation and start plan B Shabak and Bibi are doing usually an excellent job but what they are doing now might cost them their great reputation. It is never to late to make a U turn.It is not a weakness but a sign of strength.
16. Clearly what we're living through is Chevlei Mashiach
Baruch Yehuda   (12.25.15)
the birth pangs of Mashiach. Jews throughout Jewish history were brutally tortured and murdered by all kinds of goyim. According to the Zohar, the last Galut Jews will go through is Galut under Jews. Boy do we see the Galut and brutality Jews are suffering by Jews. Time to tshuva because Mashiach is at the door. I don't envy the Shin Bet.
17. The biggest problem is
MBR   (12.25.15)
that now that the Shin Bet got such a negative impression in the world with their relentless torturing of innocent boys they can't come down from the tree and arrest the Arabs behind the arson but will continue tormenting the boys until they'll "admit".
18. If torture is used a law suit follows..
BUILD BABY BUILD !!!   (12.25.15)
'Under duress' can mean a case being thrown out of court.
19. Our Zelote who ll push us to Middle age
Eric ,   Paris France   (12.25.15)
If we don't act against our Self-terror by our strongest means we will find one day our Self-Daesh inside jewish people Beliving in god could make you see the world 100% White or 100% Black but we know that Real Life is shades or grey
20.  #16 The birth pangs of Mashiach
ky   (12.25.15)
I would not want to meet anyone born in such circumstances
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