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Israel replacing US with strange bedfellows
Nahum Barnea
Published: 17.03.16, 10:57
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1. A lot of USA supported Nazi prior WW2
Zola   (03.17.16)
Not only did the USA support the Nazis as a bulwark against Stalinism but the United Kingdom and France who hoped Germany would be Satisfied with the Rhineland Austria Czechoslovakia and Poland then the Phoney war .The Human Rights Idols Denmark and Holland wilted in days .Sweden the bastion of progressive democracy took in few Jews though it had space for Hundreds of Thousand .Has taken in millions of Islam . All of a sudden ten million plus Islam in Western Europe and England but to help the Jews even the Czechs did not care . The Brick of Prague and Paris were more vital than Jewish lives . It's a Jungle the Nations warred because the Nazi Empire was too vast not to save the Jews . Never a Priority .The Fascists in Bulgaria Fascistic but deeply religious had the greatest survival of Jews followed by the Russian Soviet Areas not captured by the Nazis .
2. What a nonsense article. Is USA a jealous lover who beats
Alan ,   SA   (03.17.16)
and berates his woman when he feels like it USA has relations with all the countries mentioned.Does US have trade and ambassadorial relations in India China.YES . So why shouldnt Israel ? US is JEALOUS that Israel is muscling into its "customers" US just wants to ISOLATE Israel so it can call the tune. eg why buy US Predator when Israel makes a far superior version
3. In summary: Sell your soul and ancestral homeland
David   (03.17.16)
In summary: Sell your soul and ancestral homeland, for a few billion dollars, that you cannot even freely spend. The US had an arms embargo on Israel before 1967, and stood by with the rest of the world to watch the 2nd holocaust. I am so sick and tired of reading drivel about how Jews must beg the world for aid and subsistence, when Jews historically have contributed more to the world than anybody other group. I am also sick of reading the nonsense that only Anglo/Western friends are worthy of having, when day in day out those supposed "friends" (like the US State dept, Sweden, France, EU, etc) never miss an opportunity to bash the Jews. This article is drivel and racist from the get go. Yes, yes, yes, let's stick to the "friends" that support BDS methods to force Jews back to the "Auschwitz borders". Which reminds me, how many of our current "friends" bombed the railway tracks to the Death Camps?? Sir, do you really get paid THAT much that you need to insult and degrade your own people? Is it really worth it? Mirrors are cheap: buy one and have a look.
4. barnea is a real problem
jeff   (03.17.16)
barnea continues with delusional obsessive lapid like adherence to anything america says. while usa is the major ally, israel has to ultimately do what it is in its self interest. in the real world, it must have friends, some of them not the greatest. barnea may not like them but reality trumps barnea. peres peddled bs pie in the sky for much of his life which is why he was not trusted. same goes for herzog, a major embarassement. israelis are taking it and doing a betterjob but must fully arm and shoot any arab threatening to reduce injuries.israelis still shrink from using guns on attackers and wait for the knife to enter. go oiut and get guns now and practise shooting and that include women should also get guns. stop relying on hashem and rely on yourselves.
5. Israel's new friends
Herman Segal ,   USA   (03.17.16)
You claim that Israel is Loathsome & Racist, based on "Surveys"? So therefore it must be so? Does Israel not get enough hate from others, must self hating Jews join in? The "enlightened" European countries, now aped by Obama & progressive Democrats will vilify Israel no matter what we do (other than suicide!), it's about time Israel makes alliances with others who advance Israel's agenda, regardless if we find these countries' leaders odious or not.
6. What would make Barnea happy
Shalom ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (03.17.16)
(according to the drift of his argument) would be if Israel were, once again, "fighting for its life" and lacking relations with Russia, China and India, etc. Well, if Barnea can point to any state in the world whose government shuns all those countries, we shall be able to name a government as foolish as Barnea wants Israel's government to be.
7. Politics make strange bed fellows....
BUILD BABY BUILD !!!   (03.17.16)
Thanks to obama, Iran has $150.00 billion dollars while obama kicks Israel in the teeth.. Things that make you go "hmm". obama, the worst US president ever. ( due to the fact he's a also a Muslim.) BUILD MORE !!
8. Speaking of 'dubious and corrupt"
BUILD BABY BUILD !!!   (03.17.16)
America, under the obama administration, takes the cake, the cherry, and the icing of that cake. All obama can do is to criticize our only trusted ME all, Israel, while at the same time gifting Iran with $150. billion dollars and, releasing Gitmo detainees for another round of terrorism. Come to think of it, both the terms 'dubious and corrupt ' have reached an all time low.....
9. stupid, naive, shallow thinking and analysis. but somebody
ralph   (03.17.16)
has to hire these fools.
10. You have a strange idea of "friendship"
spyguy ,   seattle usa   (03.17.16)
I have done business with China for decades and one thing I am sure of, is the Chinese government is NOT your "friend." To the Chinese government, Israel is just a place to stripe-mine of Intellectual Property and leave behind a dried up hole in the ground. The population of Israel is less than many cities in China, so Israel is a very, very minor trading outpost. As for Saudi Arabia, Israelis seem to "forget" that Saudi Arabia has many bright shiny new DF-21C quick launch ballistic missiles pointed at Israel (purchased from your "friend" China). Supposedly these missiles are "non-nuclear" BUT how can you be sure when AQ Khan is perfectly willing to sell nukes to anyone with cash. Note that while your new "fiends" are willing to ignore how you treat the Arabs, they will ALSO be perfectly willing to ignore that happens to Israel if war breaks out and Israel starts losing to the Arabs (and YES it can happen, no matter how superior you think you are). You are delusional if you think you have any "friends." What you have are groups willing to use you until you are no longer useful and throw you overboard like yesterday's garbage.
11. Article misguided and misinformed
David ,   New york   (03.17.16)
Israel is "Forging relationships with dubious and corrupt regimes", which will hurt its relationships with America(?) - so is it only America that should be allowed to forge relationships with "dubious and corrupt regimes"?? Btw: most of the world is "dubious and corrupt". Israel (and America) must know how to navigate it - also, I didn't like the insinuation that American haredi are anti-Israel. That is very ill-informed.
12. Imbecile Barnea's good friend is the cause of all this
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (03.17.16)
Go bash him idiot pseudo journalist
13. Foreign relations
Philip ,   Israel   (03.17.16)
I thought relations between nations were all about interests, not ideals. They change and shift according to the prevailing conditions. Our very recent history has shown to be true, hence we have found alternatives.
14. Barnea: I don't care that you're dumb as a door-nail, but do
(03.17.16)
not assume we are! "Dubious regimes"? And because of that we won't be able to sleep with the clean, righteous virgins like USA and Europe?! You miserable prick.....
15. so we're to cut our ties with everyone?
Richard ,   Herzliya   (03.17.16)
i didnt think i'd hear a critic of our right wing fascism imply we should go the naturei karta route and become 'a people who dwells alone' -- cutting off our ties with whoever is willing to talk and deal with us, in favor of a fake western purism. we are the victims not the reason the EUs and UN and US State Dpt love contemning us, from BDS to NYT high moral hypocrisy. by the way we're not racist and not occupiers, thank you. as far as i can see, we're among the most tolerating people in the world. Deri hasnt shut down Haaretz, and no one cares.
16. changing friends
tiki ,   belgium   (03.17.16)
"Israel isn't the Western, liberal country, fighting for it's life like it was in 48/'67". Well thank G-d for that! Better strong & hated than weak & loved! Maybe it has escaped Mr. Barnea's attention but neither the US nor the EU have stayed the Western liberal countries they once where, on the contrary....now they are fighting for their life 'and their values!
17. America is doing business with sadistic tyrants
C   (03.17.16)
there is no need to list all the tyranical regimes with which the us is allied and with which it does business. israel decided that it could no longer depend solely on the us and the eu. obama and the eu are the ones who have pushed israel into the arms of asia and africa. at least the east does not endulge in constant jew hatred and anti-zionist garbage as does christian europe.
18. Translation: Israel is "losing" support of mindless liberals
Chaim ,   Israel   (03.17.16)
The gist of Barnea's dumb article is that Israel is "losing" the support of mindless liberals. Which Israel never really had. In exchange, Israel is gaining support from India, China and many others who have functioning brains. It is a very worthy exchange.
19. I have allways thought that Israel should look more .....
Ari ,   Jerusalem   (03.17.16)
to the East. The EU and USA are presing us to solve the Palestinian issue with a double standard. Palestinians don't want to talk so we squeeze Israel a little more. Palestinians wont recognize israel's right to exist as a Jewish State. They6 are gaining time and are taking the fight at the International forums, where they are in control of thye situation with the BDS. The east does not care about the Palestinian problem, nor they have 25 million moslems in their vecinity. The commerce with the East has four times as much potencial as that of the EU and USA It's time to putb the eggs in different basquets, without ofendingt our first ally.
20. Conspiracy Theory?!!!
Avram Goldsmith ,   Concord   (03.17.16)
Mr Barnea get the journalism skills; - as IDF journalist with high school diploma or was ejected from LAKAH Zvait -ex-general which get evicted from Labor party, or nominate as journalist by Labor party for Mapai PR Mr. Barnea excel in speculation base on conspiracy theory Or as not exception from the afterall he's writing for Idiot Haharont !!!!
21. Hand outs
Tel Aviv Tom ,   United States   (03.17.16)
The American people will get frustrated one day. Our military is spending almost half of what the entire world is spending and it is still not enough. Why should we give Israel 5 billion dollars a year when its economy grew more than 25 percent since 2000. If the Israelis where a true friend they would reject our aid. They can rely on support from the Indians, Chinese, Russians and leave us Americans alone. We will survive without Israel and Israel will survive without us. No more handouts to a wealthy nation.
22. Replacing the US?
Cameron ,   USA   (03.17.16)
Exceedingly unrealistic that. Now Israel can play the pretty gal that circulates around the bar flirting and showing off her tech, but we all know she will always step out the door with the big Yankee.
23. STUPIDGUY of Seattle "friendship" with Cuba and Iran idea
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (03.17.16)
24. #1 Zola - Wrong on at least one count
solomon ,   bklyn   (03.18.16)
Sweden gladly took in as many Jews as the courageous Danish fishermen could bring to their shores. Sweden has not been friendly recently but that is no reason to lie about the past.
25. Relax and get used to the idea that
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (03.18.16)
Israel has finally started a new self-esteem policy.She said no to getting stuck with partners that underestimated her by changing them for the better
26. #21 you conveniently forget why US funds Israel
Jake ,   USA   (03.18.16)
Israel was promised aid in return for territory. Give the Sinai back to Israel and US can keep its dirty money. US aid is a strategic liability for Israel but as long as the US is making nice with its enemies Israel has no choice but to accept the military aid. US policy should be ZERO aid to ALL countries. When that happens Israel will gladly reject aid. US aid is used to perpetuate its imperial aims, not to help the recipient of the aid.
27. Israel is all grown up. Let America appease Muslims.
JVC ,   LA, USA   (03.18.16)
Let's see how that works out. My guess is, more San Bernardino's.
28. US-Israel ties are indispensable
Israeli expat ,   Australia   (03.18.16)
Even with the somewhat hostile president Obama, Israel still enjoys a massive support in the US unlike no other country in the world. This support includes a very generous annual military aid, additional special aids such as the financing of the Iron Dome batteries, a political safety net in the UN, as well as pro-Israel influence around the world. Oftentimes this comes at a great political price to America. Of course, non of those newfound "allies" would give us a fraction of that. Can really we do without all of this? Methinks not. So yes, Obama and Hillary and Kerry may rub us the wrong way sometimes, and America's hypocrisy regarding what we are allowed to do versus what they are allowed to do can get very annoying sometimes (their double-standard with Pollard versus their own continuous spying on us is particularly disturbing), but so long as we are living under Uncle Sam's roof and we must abide by his house rules. We could always leave, but very quickly we would realize it gets pretty damn cold outside.
29. usa dumping israel for strange bedfellows?
Richard ,   Israel   (03.18.16)
at least get the story straight, or the headline. it's Pres Obama who dumped us for Iran. 'put distance between our cots'.... NOT vice versa.
30. Obama is setting up a police state
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obama still uses warrantless fbi searches of citizens, their places of business, their families, their friends, their banks, etc....nearly 200 thousand warrants have been used. what is most desturbing about these unauthorised searches is that the target of the investigation cannot be informed of it, and his associates cannot inform the target or their lawyers. more troublingly, obama is setting up a data base by use of healthcare providers where all information of a person is stored and is accecable to all government employees and all members of healthcare facilities. patients are required to provide photo id's as well as their religion and race.
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