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'US getting tougher with Israel over settlements'
Associated Press
Published: 07.05.16, 10:31
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1. Ben Rhodes, who is he?
c   (05.07.16)
ben rhodes, the creative writer and speech writer for obama, is also obama's chief foreign policy "guru." it must be understood that ben rhodes has zero qualifications for his job. obama simply loves to surround himself with mediocre inexperienced people, mostly psycophants who embrace his cult of the personality. why is ben rhodes important? he is impotant because he is the chief architect of obama's foreign policy. in a recent interview, little ben explained how he lied to the american people and to congress about the sham iran deal. now, ben rhodes will write speeches and statements explaining that if stiff necked jews were more accommodating, the arab palestinian issue could be resolved in a jiffy. oy, what a relief. that which could not be solved for a century, ben rhodes will solve within seconds. of course, ben rhodes will not explain or admit that the arab palestinians could have had peace and a state long ago. nor will rhodes, presidential advisor extraordinaire, mention hamas' constant attempt to kill israelis or dig terror tunnels nor again would he mention the obsession of hamas with the final solution or its hamas charter. nor again will any explanation or acknowledgement be given to the armed to the teeth of iran's terror proxy hezbollah. none of this will be revealed in the speeches rhodes will write. nor again will he or obama ever admit that there was no islamic state until obama withdrew all american troops from iran. there was a double whammy of us withdrawal from iraq and the lybian war which has allowed the arming of the islamic state. now rhodes and his boss exceoriate the jewish state for being a sovereign state and acting in her own self interest occasionaly
2. Does Israel lecture the US about its Indian reservations?
David ,   Hartford USA   (05.07.16)
The USA forced the native Americans off their lands and onto reservations in some of the poorest land quality areas of the country. To this day, the native Americans have the worst education, healthcare, and infrastructure facilities in the nation. The USA has no high moral grounds (or any other kind) to lecture Israel about its handling of the local Arabs. None. For that matter, you don't see native Americans stabbing and shooting citizens. Or blowing up buses, cafes, libraries, or flying jets into buildings. Israel was formed by the UN, which makes its existence more 'legal' than the USA, which stole every inch of land form the native Americans. Time for the USA to shut up and let Israel deal with the Arabs as it has to. The native Americans decided against perpetual war, the Arabs haven't yet come to that decision.
3. Netanyahu's Ability to Manipulate
Mark ben Josef ,   USA   (05.07.16)
There apparently is some limit to Netanyahu's ability to manipulate the US.. For C - The US got out of Iraq because Iraq no longer wanted the US there. After destroying the country and taking 45 KIA and over 200,000 WIA, the US didn't want to stay and bleed anymore. Gadhafi may have been good for Israel, but he personally ordered the deaths of several hundred Americans and deserved what he got. Maybe If Netanyahu has not sold the US Congress into invading Iraq, things would have been different. Netanyahu also "guaranteed" to the US Congress, as an expert, that everything would be perfectly peachy, dogs would lie down with cats, lions would love lambs, and Iran would become perfect, if only the US would take out Iraq's Saddam. Still waiting to see that miracle. Saddam is dead, but thousands of Americans are still dead and wounded.
4. Are they getting tougher about northern Cyprus too?
Avi L.   (05.07.16)
Are they getting tougher about northern Cyprus too? Turkey invaded the land, expelled Greeks and then replaced the population with ethnic turks from Turkey. Nobody seems to be wanting to get tough with the various sultans who ruled since 1974 ... do we have to behave like the rest of the middle east to get some respite? Or having some Grozny of our own?
5. I have utter contempt for the Quartet
Shep ,   Memphis   (05.07.16)
First of all, the Quartet started out years ago with a somewhat suitable set of guideliines for peace. Problem was that the Pals didn't like it, so they became obstacles and made demands. The Quartet lowered their demands to suit the Pals and then the Pals became obstacles again - which pissed off the Quartet. The Quartet pretty much abandoned the whole idea, but left Tony Blair to try to bridge the gap and it just never happened because the last thing the Pals want is peace....because the sad reality is that there are no REAL PALestinian leaders or palestinian cohesion to deliver it. The Quartet is a joke.
6. There they go again.
BUILD BABY BUILD !!!   (05.07.16)
the timing is meant to distract people from the many nations disastrous muslim hordes violently overtaking civilized nations. London, Paris, Munich, Norway, Sweden, etc. The Germans are in the verge of a revolution while obama and his 'pals' orchestrate these muslim swine as an army readying the muslim take over of America. obama's last stinking stand. He should have been impeached years ago but, Boehner was also a fool not to insist on impeachment. obama's almost gone. NEVER STOP BUILDING!!!
7. The Report is 100% Correct
Mark Jeffery Koch ,   Mount Laurel, NJ USA   (05.07.16)
Israel's founders would not be in agreement with the continued expropriation of Palestinian land and the treatment of the Palestiniain people. The sad truth is that if David Ben Gurion, Moshe Dayan, and Golda Meir were alive today they would be branded as traitors by much of the right wing in Israel. The Six Day War was not launched to occupy the West Bank or take the Sinai. Israel's leaders had no intention of permanently taking over either area and ruling over millions of people. There is not one country on our planet that calls the West Bank Judea and Samaria and there is not one country that believes the West Bank is part of Israel. The sad thing is that today most Israelis think there is nothing wrong about the way Palestinians are being treated or the way more and more Palestinian land is taken. Zionism was never about becoming the oppressor and stealing another people's land. Israelis can call Jews who disagree with the policies of Netanyahu "self haters" and call everyone else who disagrees with their government "anti semities" but at the end of the day the entire rest of the world is not wrong.
8. Judea and Samaria are forever. Dumb politicians soon gone
Chaim ,   Israel   (05.07.16)
There is a big difference. However, governments come and go. Judea and Samaria have belonged to Jews for more than 4,000 years and always will. We Jews did not survive Auschwitz to have our rights taken from us by temporary politicians, who will soon be gone. Young Jews will play in Judea and Samaria thousands of years after these fools and hypocrites, and fictional "Palestine", have crumbled to foul and forgotten dust.
9. Building and killing cannot be compared on equal footing.
DOV ,   USAHe   (05.07.16)
If i'm not mistaken settlement expansion was halted in the past to start negotiations but nothing came of it. If the the occupiers of the West bank want a state I don't think Israel would stand in their way. Israel gave up GAZA and the Sinai 2 out of 3. What makes people think they won't do it again.
10. #2
Chosen's right   (05.07.16)
Has israel ever paid one shekel to the US for the privilege?
11. to Mark Jeffery
Arnold Holtzman ,   Yehud   (05.07.16)
re: "There is not one country that believes the West Bank is part of Israel." And when did the UN recognize the West Bank and East Jerusalem as belonging to Jordan??? Answer: NEVER... anyone stop their occupation???
12. 3 Mark
C   (05.07.16)
the iraq war was decided on by bush and voted on by over seventy members of the us congress after much debate. the uk was also on board. saddam was a psychopath who had gassed the kurds in the thousands and also used gass during the war with iran. saddam invaded kuwait and threatened to invade saudi arabia. he refused to dismantle his chemical weapons production capabilities. the no fly zone over iraq did not change saddam's behaviour. it is for all these reasons that bush decided to invade iraq. obama pulled out of iraq because he was always against the iraq war. he did so against the advice of his military and secretary of defence, people who obviously knew much more about the issues than did the newly minted community organiser. yes, mark, people do die in war.
13. Netanyahu SOLD the LIES
Mark ben Josef ,   USA   (05.07.16)
Netanyahu colluded with the neocons to sell the lies to get the Iraq war started. Netanyahu was flanked by Dermer, making the sale. The Bush crowd brought him in to paint the rosy scenarios, not one of which came to pass. Watch it on YouTube. If his mount is open, he is telling lies to get Americans killed. He is lower in morals and ethics than a used car salesman.
14. 13 Mark
C   (05.07.16)
are you implying that bush and congress do not have their own sources of intelligence? what is claimed today, after congressional investigations, is that us intelligence made mistakes in their assessments of wmd. whatever the case might be, saddam was a very dangerous psychopath. many high ranking members of the islamic state are former members of saddam's revolutionary guard corps.
15. hussein obama promises to khalidi
james   (05.08.16)
without any doubt, obama is a moslem following the lead of his pastor who converted, and promises to khalidi. israel should shun obama in his final 6 months-just don't deal with him. the problem for israel is that netanyahu sweats or as judge shapira pointed out, he freaks out and is a horrible manager, so he is likely to bring in the wimpish herzog who faints when giving speeches; then the 2 of them will make concessions that will really harm israel-like oslo was not enough. the netanyahu family has done israelno favours.
16. Lies are Lies, C
Mark ben Josef ,   USA   (05.08.16)
The intel was cooked, the expertise claimed by Netanyahu was not expertise, just lies. The entire Iraq war and everything since was built on those lies. And Netanyahu claiming expertise where he had not even a scintilla, contributed to the deaths of tens of thousands and the rise of ISIS. Look a his statements to Congress and his statements , in Hebrew, about how he can manipulate the US and our politicians. It is all on YouTube.
17. 16 your posts have been deflections
C   (05.08.16)
my original post pointed out the lies of ben rhodes and obama that led to the iran deal. these lies and confabulations are set forth in a very long article in the nyt magazine. rhodes admits that they lied to the press and to congress. obama made a deal with the totalitarian genocidal shia terror regime of iran and started to do so in 2012 without consulting congress. obama did not present this deal to congress because he knew that he did not have the required votes to pass it as a treaty. the deal is a sham. it is not legally binding. as the state department has admitted, it is simply a political commitment, like a gentlemen's agreement. furthermore, the deal as is left much of iran's nuclear weapons program intact and expires in ten years. its verification mechanism is basically non-existent. the supporters of the deal can be found among members of the iran project and the ploughshare foundation. the majority of congress and of the american people have been against this deal which has not even been signed by khameini and obama. so it is not even an executive agreement. that is why state has referred to it as a political commitment.
18. 7 MJK
C   (05.08.16)
you have no idea what israel's founders would think about present israeli policy. facts: israel won the six day war and has withdrawn from the sinai after israel and egypt signed a peace treaty whereby israel withdrew from the sinai and egypt agree to a demilitarised sinai. fact: israel withdrew from gaza without an agreement. this withdrawal has resulted in continuous terror attacks against the jewish state by hamas, islamic jihad. fact: there has never been a palestinian sovereign in the entire history of the middle east. fact: the arabs who are referred to as palestinians declared in 1964 when the territory then under jordanian authority that they were part of the arab nation and did not dispute jordanian authority. fact: unscr 242 makes no reference whatever to "palestine" or to "palestinian people." fact: the arab palestinians have been offered a state on numerous occasions but declined. fact: abbas refuses to acknowledge jewish historical ties to the land of israel and denies the existence of the two destroyed jewish temples upon which invading arab muslims had built a mosque. there can be no peace process with the arab palestinians as long as they refuse to acknowledge that israel is the homeland of the jewish people, that zionism goes back thousands of years and is the jewish people's self determination by historical and ties and under international laws of self determination.
19. #18 - C - you are good
Ch   (05.09.16)
Kol haKavod C. I like reading your posts.
20. 19 Ch thank you
C   (05.09.16)
it takes enormous patience and a lot of research.
21. Just Survival Capacity
Zola   (05.12.16)
No one can deliver Peace there is Viscious war between the Arabs in Syria and Iraq and there are enormous security worries re a Militirized Arab State so close to the Jewish population Centres . The Arabs are militant and terror war torture and plunder are an innate part of their Psychology as with much of humanity . The Jews more scholars and entrepreneurs in the past have had to become Militirized and develop heavy Defensive and Deterrant Capacity .
22. Just Survival Capacity
Zola   (05.12.16)
No one can deliver Peace there is Viscious war between the Arabs in Syria and Iraq and there are enormous security worries re a Militirized Arab State so close to the Jewish population Centres . The Arabs are militant and terror war torture and plunder are an innate part of their Psychology as with much of humanity . The Jews more scholars and entrepreneurs in the past have had to become Militirized and develop heavy Defensive and Deterrant Capacity .
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