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Ultra-Orthodox curse, spit, tear up a prayer book while Women of the Wall pray
Kobi Nachshoni
Published: 09.07.16, 13:21
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1. Doesn't Israel have enough enemies without making more?
BUILD BABY BUILD !!!   (07.09.16)
Why such vitriol towards Jewish women at prayer?
Don't the men realize without Jewish mothers, there are no Jews?
To tear up a prayer book stolen from a young boy at prayer makes it somehow "better?"
Such ill mannered fanatics!
2. Are you kidding me!
Dee Simms ,   Bucks County, Pa   (07.09.16)
Stupid Israel infuriates Jews around the civilized world. Does Israel like to be represented by the crazies who do things like stabbing young girls at Gay Marches? Or by this moron who ripped up a prayer book to protest women? You idiots! You disgusting idiots!
3. yahweh doesn't accept prayer from women, Insignificant
Mickey   (07.09.16)
4. incitement, pure and simple
Larry ,   LA (formerly)   (07.09.16)
Since when have the WoW coming for 27 years??

They are out to start a fight with the orthodox (who fall into their trap). They care nothing for G0d or Jewish tradition.
5. Idiot man
Arnold ,   Montreal   (07.10.16)
Idiot is a kind word. The man is a sorrowful version of Islam's ultra crazies.
6. What equality? Where in Torah is equality for women?
Moshe   (07.10.16)
Judaism speaks of different roles for men and women, not equality. Torah is for men. Become Moslems if you are so bent on destroying Judaism with your feminist hate.
7. same on us for stopping a tearing up a prayer book
limor ,   hadera   (07.10.16)
though out our sad history, non jews tore up our prayer books and burned then burned them along with our shuls.
we could not stop them for they would have killed us and burned us and send dogs to tear us up.
why didn't the rabbi stop him or yell at him?
it is a prayer book just like an orthodox prayer book
he should also tear up women's orthodox short version prayer book
prayers that have been written for people to recite that is not in a siddur...
how dare he!
is it better that these women should go to christiantiy or muslims or become an atheist...so they pray respect them for they respect you...
and if not well i think many othodox women will join them in support slowly when they see men behaving like uncivilized men...he should do repetance and ask for hashems forgiveness along with the rabbi shouting may hashem guide us and may we never ever in our life time see another jew tearing up a jewish prayer book! ever!
8. The WOW are a group of instigators with a larger agenda
Someone   (07.10.16)

The WoW are a small org run by a group of extreme leftists who have a larger agenda to push reform Judaism onto the Israeli society. At the most a couple% support them in the country. They break every deal they make just like in this case.

If they supported equality they would support Jews going up too the Temple Mount but they don't.

Their intentions are to cause a rift between different sects of Judaism particularly between Israeli and American Jews.

Basically they took the religion threw out the laws and made up their own version not based on God, Judaism, but more feminism and regressive left wing ideals.


9. Silly stupid man.
Ralph   (07.11.16)
10. Seriously, dawg!!
Moshino ,   Tel Aviv   (07.11.16)
Dear Rabbis: please tell the pit bulls in your midst to refrain from making a full of themselves and of all of us as part of process. They don't get to speak for HaShem. Feeling Pinchas much today!? Go take a cold shower!
11. Challenging religious delusions never ends well. These vapid
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ladies know that, but their agenda has nothing to do with "equality" or God or ....women. Why would one want to inject secular norms into (any) cult's doctrines?? That is simply not fair. Poor man (and many like him) cannot help himself and indeed, he should net feel restrained to air his frustrations...
12. OH, come now!!!!
Larry ,   LA (formerly)   (07.11.16)
let not sink into extremism on either side. The point is that the WoW are not into God, they are a political movement that cares little if any about God or Judaism and want Judaism to mirror current US values.
13. Progress
Raphael ,   Netanya   (07.11.16)
A 120 years old footage shot by brpthers Lumiere at the Kotel shows men and women praying without any segregation. The ultra orthodox are building a wall of bigotry based upon recently elaborated traditions without any halachic reference: that is a mere power game.
14. Women of the Wall
MenachemP ,   new york city   (07.10.16)
We are so lucky to live in the United States rather than Israel.
How horrible the all too graphic violence that occurred last Thursday at the Western Wall when a lone individual dressed in Haredi clothes tore apart a book belonging to the viciously oppressed Women of the Wall. Compare that to the ho-hum events in Dallas the same day when a sniper opened fire and only succeeded in snuffing out the lives of five police officers and ripping open the bodies of seven others.
I am in awe of the courage shown by WOW member who took a video of the horrendous scene at the Wall all the while living under abject terror of being called a “stinking woman” at any moment. Compare that to the picnic- like conditions that prevailed in Minnesota when Diamond Reynolds turned on Facebook Live as her boyfriend Philando Castile lay dying after being shot by the police.
15. women of the wall
nancy ,   niles   (07.12.16)
To Menachem you don't know what really happened in Dallas and Minnesota since you were not there - wait till the two police officers come to court and then make a comment on it. A video only tells half of the story. Worry about the blacks that cause the problems in the US where you (Illinois) and I live instead of the problems at the Western Wall of which you lie.
The Women of the Wall are great - Israel is a free country or it is supposed to be and women have a right to pray at the wall. Men like you set Jewish values back to the dark ages.
16. Liberal Left Agenda
Al ,   Tarzana   (07.11.16)
Destructive move as usual
17. the New Jerusalem
Baruch ,   Modiin   (07.11.16)
This is the same group of loonies who gave us.. "Berlin is the new Jerusalem .." in the early 20th century ...................................................................NUFF SAID !!!
18. How does WoW hurt anyone?
Bob ,   NYC   (07.12.16)
How does it hurt anyone if a group of women want to read a Torah scroll among themselves? Aren't plenty of Orthodox girls sent to yeshiva these days too? So they obviously aren't kept ignorant of it.

I'm not personally a huge fan of Egalitarian minyans myself, but I wouldn't STOP them from praying as they wished as long as it didn't affect anyone else. Everyone need to be more tolerant in a public space.

I don't understand HOW the Haredim can be so certain that they are definitely right that they would attack others. But I certainly question the judgement of any movement that thinks that married women should shave their heads and wear wigs instead, because somehow that's more "modest". That really takes the cake! Perhaps ridiculous rules like that should cause Haredim to realize that much in Judaism is purely a matter of INTERPRETATION and be tolerant of other interpretations. But somehow I think it's beyond their capabilities.
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