Opinion  Ben-Dror Yemini
Israel losing public opinion support in US
Ben-Dror Yemini
Published: 12.12.16, 23:36
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1. Polls also said DEMOCRATS will win in 2016 election
Alan ,   SA   (12.13.16)
2. Total BS
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (12.13.16)
Support for Israel is at an all time high and getting much larger with the election of Donald Trump.

The support of leftists is for Islamofascist terrorists and nobody else does so.

All of the land west of the Jordan River is ours and we need to deport the colonists
3. The opposite is true
MadDad ,   Johannesburg RSA   (12.13.16)
The shyster pollsters get it wrong every time.
They want to set the agenda and make up polls to confirm what you should believe.
Only the pro-peace, pro-Israel liberal Jews in USA want to destroy Israel
4. Obama!
Dr Lee ,   NYC   (12.13.16)
It's Obamas who turned Jerusalem Jewish neighborhoods into "settlements".
He fed this "land grab" lie to his far-Left base and the Jew-hating media Left ran with it.
5. Oy, dear Yemini: for each intelligent article you give us 5
(12.13.16)
that are utter nonsense and sound like leftist propaganda. This is one of those....
6. The settlements are legal according to international laws
yeshi   (12.13.16)
IMO the reason there is so much hostility is lack of knowledge. When people grow up with Israel being the bogeyman that is how it is perceived. Especially when the Israeli leadership has not been fighting back.
A few titbits.

According to comments from leaders of both Britain and USA who were involved in writing the Balfour, Paris agreement, Mandate, American Anglo Treaty, UN Charter, Res 242, etc, The land was designated for a Jewish state, the public land which was around 70% was for settlement by Jews it the time its institutions were set up.

Jordan had no legal claim, Geneva convention as per Hague convention only applies to High Contracting Party with a claim (Palestinians not a HCP.

Mandate is clear that only East of the Dead Sea can be ceded to another power,

When Israel began to move Arabs out of camps to homes UN resolutions condemned them,

No UNGA res are legally binding unless agreed upon by the powers in question. UNSC resolutions cant usually create laws only impose them.

The Green line is an armistice line not a legal border, Jordan-Israel armistice agreement.

When land is lived on for years common international law dictates compensation not removal.

When Jews own land in WB which passed from Ottoman-Mandate-Israel- (no private owners beforehand) its illegal, when Palestinians were given Jewish land stolen by Jordan and the UN after 1948 its supported.

There are thousands of examples of the lies and double standard daily against Israel. Sad very sad. Especially when Media like Ynet are part of the problem.
7. Not anti Israel propaganda, not BDS?
tiki ,   belgium   (12.13.16)
Think again!

It's the 24/7 onslaught & biased of anti Israel propaganda by the media and the "re-educartion" on Israel on schools & Universities in the US/Europe as a result of this!

Today to be anti Israel is the thing to be, to be on anti Israel demonstrations the place to be.

Time for the average Israeli to understand the mindset of the average Jew hater...........which he doesn't!!!!!!

This time the excuse is "settlements", before it was "Jewish" Israel, before that it was the rich Jew, the strong Jew, the dominating Jew, the outsider, the involved, the clever, the stupid etc.etc.etc!

The average Jew hater with his/her thin layer of 'humanistic' veneer is losing that thin layer of polish like a snake shedding her skin every once in a while and...... out comes the fox who is losing it's hears but never it's ways.

Gentiles & Muslims, Liberals & atheists don't like Jews! Make no mistake about it and it has nothing to do with the Israeli government, any Israeli government.

It's about YOU, the JEW!

These people don't need excuses. They have been born with this genetic flaw, have been fed on it through their mothers milk and have gotten their polishing through education.

NEVER forget that!

Israel must be disliked but strong.

Both is impossible!
8. All depends on Trumpism being the future or an anomaly
Mark B. ,   Amsterdam   (12.13.16)
Remember how the Americans voted different by age groups. Remember the average age of the Trump voter. Remember that the millennials, who represent the future, went for Sanders en masse in the primaries. And Trump himself is still a con-man who most likely will not deliver on his fantastic and great promises (he never has in the past, from casino's to golf courses to universities). Also he is a loose cannon, capable of wild swings and turn-arounds towards friends and foes.
Bibi and Bennett would be wise not to count their blessings with Trump and Trumpism yet.
9. Thanks Bibi
Rami ,   Helsinki   (12.13.16)
This would have not happened under Sharon.
10. Notice the second paragraph
BUILD BABY BUILD !!   (12.13.16)
makes no sense whatsoever.
When using the BBC for example, you start off flawed by their notorious anti semitism.
( not to mention both the author and proof reader being in repetitious error)
What you need is
1- a better author
2 a better proof reader.
Otherwise, you only confuse matters more fully.
Opinions are like anus's everyone has one.
JUST KEEP BUILDING !!!
11. No way out of it
Avi L.   (12.13.16)
There's no way out of it.

We cannot have a "falastinian" hamastan at Kalkilya, a stone throw from Tel Aviv and Netanya.

We cannot have a "one state two nation" situation, which would be an internal hamastan.

We cannot trust Donald who very well could, on a flare of "business flair", sell us to whoever happens to rightly stimulate his ego in exchange for some temporary glory or solution to some selfmade problem.

We cannot trust Putin neither, no one can.

Europe will be overrun by the kremlin backed extreme right, islamic invasion and the last and final financial crisis offered by the same ones who are sabotaging the free world since the Reagan/Tatcher infamous deregulations.

Happy days are gone forever.

As Kohelet said.
12. TO YESHI # 6 - RECTIFICATION...
FO ,   Belgium   (12.13.16)
Dear Yeshi your post is to the point. Just allow me the following rectification. You wrote that the "Mandate is clear that only East of the Dead Sea can be ceded to another power". This is not correct. Article 5 of the Mandate for Palestine states that (translation from the original French text): "The Mandatory shall be responsible for seeing that no Palestine territory (remember that the original territory intended to become the Jewish independent state was from the Mediterranean Sea till the Desert of Arabia, that is including Jordan, as well as the Golan Heights) shall be ceded or leased to, or in any way placed under control of the government of any foreign power”. In Article 25 of the Mandate, Britain asked the League of Nations to postpone or withhold the application of the Mandate on the territory east of the Jordan River. There was no question of nullifying! And what happened afterwards we all know or should know. And again, in 1923, the British Mandatory ceded the Golan Heights to the French Mandate of Syria, breaching once more Article 5!
13. We claim Judea/Samaria because it is ours. End of story!
Chaim ,   Israel   (12.13.16)
Self respecting people don't accept the limiting opinions of others. Nor do self respecting nations. The author's claims that America is turning against Israel is false. All indications are that American opinion of Israel is near an all time high.

Even if America did not approve of Israel claiming our 4,000 year old ancestral heartland of Judea and Samaria, we should do it. Because Judea and Samara are ours. End of story! We need to follow the example of Begin regarding destroying Iraqi nukes. Do what you have to do. You can always explain it later.
14. Yemeni Wake up the World just changed
YeminiWakeUp ,   Jerusalem   (12.13.16)
15. Palestinians
Mark Paretsky ,   Tel Yizhak   (12.14.16)
Please refrain from referring to the Arabs in the West Bank as "Palestinians".
Of all people, you certainly don't have to be reminded that there is no such national entity as "Palestine", there never was one. This name was arbitrarily assigned to the area by the British after World War I. The Arab population in the West Bank is Identical to that in Saudi Arabia, the Gulf Countries, Syria, Lebanon etc. etc. including the countries in the Maghreb.

If we are to base our arguments on historical facts, there can be no argument that the whole of the West Bank (at least) should be referred to as Israel. (All you need to do is visit Rome and see the plundered remnants of our ancient nation).

True, there is a complicated geopolitical situation in this area as a whole, but to promote a policy based on falsehood and distortion is immoral and destructive. The whole of the Middle East is in a tragic turmoil. Our tiny country - right in the center - is performing miraculous political acrobatics in order to survive.
In this internationally antagonistic atmosphere it is our duty to support objectively our government's efforts to enhance our security and diplomatic stance.

This does not mean that we should refrain from criticizing quality of governance. No doubt, there is lots of room for improvement there.

Sincerely
Mark
16. Israel losing public opinion support in US
Lazerbenabba ,   London, England   (12.14.16)
I live in the UK and it is necessary for me to correct some of the assumptions from those that live elsewhere...1st off the BBC at one time a couple of decades ago was still considered the arbiter of unbiased reporting, well to the majority of us that is most definitely not the case anymore, far from it; it is an organisation riven with the typical so called Liberal Left Multicultural agenda and all that that entails.
As to the Poll enacted on its behalf, well if you still believe poll results after the fiascos of abject failure of nearly all of them to actually give a true indication of how and what people believe then perhaps La La land is for you.
As to the op-ed of Ben-Dror Yemini it would appear that he has also made assumptions regarding the opinions of US citizens that fit in with his own agenda...another case of finding facts to fit with his own perceptions.
17. Why more Americans have become negative
Erik ,   Bergen   (12.15.16)
It is not the settlements per se or anything else that Israel have done or not done that is to be blamed for the growing support for anti-Israel sanctions in the US. The change in public sentiments, small or big, is the direct result of an 8 year Obama administration with a biased and unbalanced anti-Israel rhetoric. Leaders in any nation matters.

Israel shouldn`t care about ignorant and rabidly European or US politicians which have a constraint view of reality because of a twisted ideological mindset. Reality speaks louder than cheap rhetoric based on an utopian and ignorant world view.

History and reality are in alliance with Israel and not on the side of most Western leaders still living in their own isolated ideological bubbles. The law of gravity does not cease to exist simply because people ignore it or have a conviction or wish that it doesn`t exist. Reality does not show mercy to those who ignore it. Am Israel chai.
18. Wow, the level of delusion
Richard Wicks ,   Sunnyvale, CA   (03.20.18)
Well, in 5 years, maybe there won't be so much. Funny how a minority can so easily live in an ideological bubble.
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