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US Jewish leaders decry Israel's 'delegitimization' of non-Orthodox Jews
Attila Somfalvi
Published: 28.06.17, 20:45
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1. These people are delusional
moishe ,   golutsk   (06.28.17)
Why these clowns claim that they represent US Jewry? They represent only themselves and tiny minority of Reform and Conservative Jews who rejected Torah and Gd.
2. If the Israel gov‘t goes thru with that conversion bill
Rich ,   Toronto   (06.28.17)
they will only make life worse for the Jews in Israel. Netanyahu is an idiot!
3. Paqid (www.netzarim.co.il)
Yirmeyahu ,   Ra'anana   (06.28.17)
The rabbanut is ULTRA-Orthodox. They don't even recognize a lot of Orthodox conversions from the U.S. My wife and I renounced the Christianity we'd been born into, gave up all our family and friends and converted Orthodox decades ago. Decades after I'd made aliyah, and prayed in an Orthodox beit k'nesset for over a decade, the Rabbanut lied (!!!) about me in court documents unilaterally "unrecognizing" me, my wife and family. We're still fighting to expose the Rabbanut's lies in the courts system and eliminate the libel against us. Aliyah was a contract between Israel, Jews and us. We gave up everything to make aliyah and then Israel reneged. That's the sorry state of rabbinicism today.
4. STOP CRYING
CAPTAIN REALITY ,   SAFED HONESTY   (06.28.17)
These jumped-up US jewish leaders cry whenever they do not get their own way . According to Halacha , one born to a jewish mother or properly converted is jewish .
5. THE UNPLEASANT TRUTH
TEL EM STRAIGHT ,   SAFED HONESTY   (06.28.17)
US jews act as if ,by right of them sending money to Israel , that they own Israel and can tell israelis what to do and what not to do. They can of course think again.
6. ERIC GOLDSTEIN CEO
CAPTAIN OBVIOUS ,   SAFED HONESTY   (06.28.17)
Who made Eric Goldstein Prime Minister of Israel?
7. As a secular Jew I see Reform as dangerous
SecularJew ,   Jerusalem Israel   (06.28.17)
The Jews of Boston ran not walked away from traditional Judaism
into the arms of Reform and Conservative about 50 years ago
today the Boston Jewish community is in tatters one kosher
café open for lunch until only recently only one Mikveh for
270,000 Jews of Greater Boston , the historic flagship Reform
Temples and Conservative ones are empty huge buildings
empty on Shabbat conversely small Orthodox synagogues
are popping up everywhere in the suburbs and are active
Habad is trying to pick up the pieces Liberal synagogue
after synagogue is "consolidating" with another the final
step before closing down a Jewish tragedy Reform
did NOTHING to prevent assimilation on a recent
tv program Alan Dershowitz told how delightful it was
to attend the NYC flagship Reform Temple Central
Synagogue now led by its Korean Convert Female Rabbi
Males have fled en mass a movement which has
become more of a movement for radical Feminism
than anything associated with Judaism
8. Reform has for generations been demonizing Orthodoxy
PutOutTheLights ,   Jerusalem Israel   (06.28.17)
What are they talking about they have been demonizing Orthodox
Judaism for generations , they are barely recognizable as Jews
they are no longer the last bastion of assimilation they are
the Gate to it ,better they drop from their title Judaism
and call themselves the Cult of Reform their zig zags over
Judaism and Zionism are legion and very little difference
from Conservatives and now they are threatening the State
of Israel accept our madness or......? It would give
many of their more and more radical rabbis just the
excuse they need to cut all ties with the Jewish Homeland
many of their membership have anyway no Jewish
cultural baggage or history so it would be an easy
clean cut
9. Not authentic 'brands' of Judaism?
tiki ,   belgium   (06.28.17)
Judaism is a religion, not a brand and comes in different shapes & forms which should be all respected.

"Don't slap us in the face by telling us we can't come to Israel and feel welcome".

Nobody does!

Time for these offended American Jews preaching unity to start looking for a ladder to climb down from the tree.

The Kotel belongs to all Jews but only Israel, as the one who sacrificed sons & daughters to free it, is the responsible landlord providing safety for all those who come to visit and/or protest while others are praying there.

American Reform Jews should respect the laws of Israel and the laws of Judaism instead of kick up a raw.



10. American Reform Jews
C   (06.28.17)
the conversion bill impacts all jews.
it is therefore important that the rabbinate in israel become more flexible
in its application of rules of conversion, especially with regard
to children and spouses.

on the other hand, the insistence of mixed prayer section at the
kotel is an infringement of the sanctity of what the kotel
represents even to secular jews.
the old city and the kotel were liberated by a jewish army,
many of whose members were secular zionists.
they gave their lives for the ideals of the torah and
the laws of moses.
those jews who fought for the torah and for kiddush hashem
for over two thousand years, gave their lives and their
well being for the sanctity of the mitzvot.
these jews were orthodox and later hassidim.
without them, judaism would have died out.
have some respect for those of our brethren who kept
the torch alive and produced our great sages and scholars.
11. Give them a finger and they will take a hand
MadDad ,   Johannesburg   (06.29.17)
There is plenty of room for them on the top of the Temple Mount
I am sure the Wakif will be more understanding and they will be closer to the people they support
12. THE KOTEL
DAVID ,   JERUSALEM   (06.29.17)
THE VAST MAJORITY OF CONSERVATIVE AND REFORM AMERICAN JEWS VOTED FOR HELLARY AND CAN'T STOP CRYING OVER THEIR LOSS!!!!!!!!! NOW, THOSE MILLIONS OF AMERICAN JEWS WHO ALOT A VERY SMALL PORTION OF THEIR LIVES TO JUDAISM IF ANY AT ALL ARE WHINING AND CRYING OVER NOT BEING GIVEN A PLATFORM AT THE KOTEL TO DEMONSTRATE THEIR ADULTERATED, PERVERTED, AND WATERED DOWN VERSIONS OF JUDAISM!!!!!! I'VE BEEN GOING TO THE KOTEL SEVERAL TIMES A WEEK FOR THE LAST 50 YEARS AND IT IS OPENED TO JEWS OF ALL DENOMINATIONS, CHRISTIANS, BUDDHISTS, AND ATHEISTS TOO!!!!!! THE KOTEL SHOULD NOT BE A PLACE FOR DEMONSTRATING AGENDAS THAT DEVIATE FROM AUTHENTIC TRADITIONAL JUDAISM.
13. There's no stopping the Jewish religion from dying.
Michael ,   California, USA   (06.29.17)
There is no need to shed a tear. Recognize in historical documents that the Orthodox have killed it. Admit it, nothing can prevent us from living happily.
14. Esq
joyce fraser ,   Jenkintown, PA   (06.29.17)
Titled: Offensive-To-Others Exclusive Jewish Attitudes
Orthodoxy is immutable, irrational and offensive to 'others'.
We can expect further and more thorough Ethnic Cleansing of Jews, directly attributable to such arrogant, deeply disturbing, offensive assumption(s) - by Jews - of being more important than non-Jewish human beings.
Reaching out and welcoming people of other beliefs, religious persuasions, cultural interactions and exchanges, etc, will do more on the long run than those Jews holding current, soon-to-be-fatal 'Jewish uber others' attitudes!
15. The vast majority
Avi ,   Nyc   (06.29.17)
Of American Jews who never visit Israel and join BDS and have gentile grandkids or are already gentile are the non orthodox
16. moishe rabeynu
moishe   (06.29.17)
Israel may be destroyed from within! if Jews can't live with each other then Israel existence is threatened. also, Israel needs diaspora support. should not be undervalued.
17. Time for the real Jews to take back judisum from the orthodo
Cosmo Furr ,   Philydelphia   (01.16.18)
It's time to recognize that the majority of Jews live in the United States and not Israel...and before you doubt that, the majority of 'so called Jews in Israel are secular and never go to services. They are jews only because they live in Israel and never bothered to covert to some other religion. BUT the majority of Jews in the US are associated with a temple of some sort, pay dues and while they may not go to services as much as the tiny minority of orthodox Jews wish to, even the most liberal reform Jews send their kid's to religious school and are more actively involved with their local Jewish community, than the majority of secular Israel Jews.

So it's not some tiny fanatical minority of out of touch orthodox semi-jews in Israel (who seem in ethics and moral issues have more in common with Islamic mullahs) who should define what being
Jewish means.
It's time world embrace Conservative and Reform Judiasum as the true face of Jews and delegate the extreme orthodox as some sort of quant side show of silly religion in the same category the world looks at the horse and buggy riding Amish.
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