Opinion  Eitan Haber
As if the Yom Kippur War never happened
Eitan Haber
Published: 11.10.17, 23:41
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1. Israel Must Be Prepared
DSM ,   USA   (10.12.17)
While I am not a fan of Haber, he is correct in saying Israel can never be too prepared. Nor can the IDF continue to be the most moral army in the world. War is about killing not only soldiers but also fast numbers of innocent civilians which in turn makes the enemy sue for peace. That is why America won WWII and has lost every war since.
2. Peace through strength.
Joe Elinger ,   Hollywood FL   (10.12.17)
Even the most rabid of bullies only attack what they believe are the easiest prey.
3. Article almost prophetic, let us remember Zechariah 12:6
Franklin Paredes ,   Quito   (10.12.17)
From henry Gruber
Zechariah 12:6 In that day will I make the governors of Judah like a hearth of fire among the wood, and like a torch of fire in a sheaf; and they shall devour all the people round about, on the right hand and on the left. And Jerusalem shall be inhabited again in her own place—even in Jerusalem.
"Think about that! What is the Lord saying here in verse six? If you go from Jerusalem to Gaza there are fourteen territories, right on the edge of Jerusalem, there are fourteen territories, given to the Palestinians, all the way to Gaza. The fulfillment of this verse will be horrifying on the news, when these people, which are as David, and those that are as David, as God, go in and do a purging of the Palestinians. What that means is that every man, woman, boy and girl will be wiped out. The media will call it an ethnic cleansing. They will call for an emergency session in Geneva, Switzerland to condemn this bunch of renegade people, called Israel. That is why verse three puts out the solemn warning, ...and in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people. All that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.”
He is saying, in effect, that every nation that casts it ballot against Me in that day will be cut to pieces.
4. Hebrew version of this article?
Luftmensch ,   Or Haner   (10.12.17)
Does anyone know if there is a Hebrew version of this article? Or if there will be?
5. Who to hit? 1st Hezbollah. 2nd Iran. 3rd Leftists.
JVC ,   LA, USA   (10.12.17)
6. Imbecile Haber Blabber pushes to withdraw from YESHA.Riskier
Steve Benassi ,   Minneapolis USA   (10.12.17)
7. War, not a solution !
Jacob Edelman ,   NYC   (10.12.17)
Wars and military victories do not solve problems , as history offers us innumerable examples. Israel has shown its military ingenuity time and time again but none of these victories have led to a situation where the civilian population can genuinely enjoy peace. Israel has missed forging an everlasting peace driven by a victor's intransigence, and some fuzzy plans in recent years to annex Palestinian territories. All these will make peace uncertain creating conditions for the opposite camp to find ways and means to defeat the Israeli military machine by other means than direct confrontation.Current Israeli leadership has to be held responsible for the uncertainties of the future!
8. Oh boy, thing are getting really bad for Haber. Is this what
Delphi   (10.12.17)
40 years in the political desert does to a man?
Not a pretty sight.
BTW. yes: Putin can start a war, Trump can start a war, India can start a war....so?
Why/what for and what would be the outcome?
9. Just a few inaccuracies
Disillusioned   (10.12.17)
As I was there, I can attest to the fact that the sirens went off not at 3 p.m. but at 2 p.m. Also, in those days, there was no "tradition" of children cycling in the streets. In fact, the streets were dead. It was the sound of military planes some time before the sirens that was strange - which was alert to those who knew about such things.

This would not be the first time that an Israeli government displays such complacency. Ofer Shelach's warning will go unheeded by the current government, as were several warnings in 1973. As is the case with the ammonia plant, the unacceptable situation on our roads, the pollution.

We are, apparently, a nation that likes to learn the hard way, and even so, the impact is short-lived and it isn't long before we're back to our "golden calf" worship": making and spending money. In short, we never learn and every time, we get to pay a heavy price for our lack of foresight.

10. another stupid article on YNET
Shep ,   Memphis   (10.12.17)
What does the writer want Israel to do, lay down and play dead? There are no easy solutions to the conflict with Israel's Muslim/Arab neighbors - other than use the strategy of mutually assured destruction as a deterrent. Anyone have any better ideas?
11. i usually never agree with haber
jamess   (10.12.17)
while i usually disagree with haber on everything, i believe he is correct on israel not being fully ready for war with hassan, hamas and iran. israel is very good on the attack or counterattack provided that political leaders don't chicken out which is what olmert and bibi both in my opinion did. But on defense, israel tends to be casual and too relaxed.

so idf and home front should be fully ready and also assume that putin has been shipping the latest russian surprises in artillery systems that can flatten a 2.5 sq km area with munitions and flames ie kill evyeerthingh in it. this means huge casualites for israel, ie thousands of israelis dead. so israel surveillance should be top level and actions taken to remove threats. also shelters, iron dome and naval vessels should be ready to go.

hassan contrary to what idf thinks will send 35000 troops to take over some towns. the idf says no way. well, the idf should be planning its own death box for hezbollah forces and not sit and wait for it to happen.

bibi cannot lead the operation-he doesn't understand the battlefield, or how to attack and he is not prepared to do whatever it takes.

remember lieberman is different than bibi. he doesn't buckle under pressure, and he is like putin. he has been waiting a long time to settle the account. lebanese should leave lebanon if war breaks out, leave it now.
12. Head of th Jewish Congregation
Jocki ,   Nuermberg, Germany   (10.12.17)
Interesting comments all along. After reading the article I was asking myself one crucial question: What is Mr, Haber suggesting? A preventive strike? Let us know. Chag sameach
13. COME FOR PEACE
adnan ,   JEDDAH   (10.12.17)
WE ARE ALL HUMAN , DON'T DEFERENCE ONLY RELIGION OR COUNTRY , MAKE SOME THINGS FOR HUMAN , ENVIRONMENT , LOVELY COMMITMENT WHICH WILL DELIVER SAVE FOR ALL , PEACE FOR ALL , MUSLIM , JEWS , CRISTIAN AND OTHERS ALL COME FOR PEACE. NOT FOR DESTROY OR WARS , CHANGE WORD OF ENEMY TO FRIEND AND BROTHER.
14. lebanon army is hezbollah, one in the same
ray   (10.12.17)
for whatever reason, the lebanese army has defended and become part of hezbollah. as such it is fully a target in the next war and it will be destroyed in all respects by leiberman who has said so-eveyrthing.

liberman comes from russia and is like putin, he is not a softie like olmert or bibi when it comes to going all the way in war. and if you send 30000 troops across the border with missiles and antitanks weapons, in tanks and armored personnel carriers, liberman will destroy them. he has said he wants to go all the way.
15. Israel policy should be to destroy Hamas and Fatah as ISIS
Zushi   (10.12.17)
There are not many differences. Hamas calls for a global Caliphate being part of the Muslim Brotherhood. Read their charter. Fatah with its institutional antisemitism, anti-Christian, anti-West, anti-freedom, anti-gay, anti-women, There is not much that ISIS has done which the Palestinians haven´t.

We have gone down the rabbit hole long ago giving land legally part of Israel according to Mandate, UN Charter...... to some of the biggest Jew haters and terrorists in the world whose sole reason for their peoples existence according to their own documents and words is to destroy the Jewish state.. Insanity. Hamas should be destroyed tomorrow and the Palestinians told if they do not stop their institutional genocidal activities they will all go to jail. Oslo should be canceled as the Palestinians have not followed up on anything when given autonomy 20 years ago, they have broken every rule in the book, and negotiations should begin with tribal/family leaders. According to UN Res 242 those who dont wish to live in peace can leave. Go back to Egypt, Syria, Iraq, where their grandparents came from.

Its people like Haber who live in denial and help to perpetuate these realities. Any sane nation would never have let it go this far with years of mass murder sprees supported, funded and often ordered by the Palestinian Leadership. With the money mostly coming from Western Nations.

Rabin would have canceled Oslo long ago if he was alive, at least according to his public speeches before he was murdered.

16. CONFUCIUS SAYS :
CONFUCIUS ,   SAFED CHINA   (10.12.17)
Failing to prepare = preparing to fail....
17. preparing for war
C   (10.13.17)
israel must always be prepared for war. she is surrounded by vicious enemies who are willing to commit genocide on the jewish nation.

it is outrageous that even after the holocaust, the international community is still supporting jew hating countries. it is this support by the goy nations of
the world that emboldens islam in its intentions to destroy the jewish
state.
the west believes that by supplying israel with some weapons that
therefore they can support islam which wants to commit genocide.

christian europe has not changed one iota. it welcomes hezbollah
and other terrorists. europe does not understand the muslim
mentality which is supremacist and which demands submission.
certain european countries refuse even to protect their own women
from sexual assault by so called refugees.

israel must warn the west that in the next war, which is inevitable,
she will use all weapons at her disposable.
18. nasrallah doesnt want war. he said this in his last speech.
epo   (10.13.17)
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