while people hve tired of bibi's bs and lack of nerve, he still comes out better than the gabbay lapid livni camp. there is a lack of space to start talking concessions. and what concessions do you not ask the other side to make and not just empty ones. who negotiates this way.

if jews have not learned unlike others that they must control security on their own, not shared in some fantasy condominium arrangement, then the holocaust was wasted.

having a homogeneous jewish state as livni wants does one no good if you have hamastan on the west bank and terror increasing ten fold. and israel has enough with hamas and hezbollah. it cannot afford hamastan on the west bank whose security it must control. and if trump says otherwise, tell him no which bibi is unable to do because he is very weak, bloody weak.

gabbay just lost my vote.

oslo camp david, olmert's offer to abbas, sharon on gaza. i will not vote for gabbay because i am not going there. tens of thousands of rockets from the north and south. worse appetite for even more concessions increases. media along with zionist union can peddle false promises of usa and eu guarantees which are useless and worthless including general allen and failed john kerry. if israel is not there at control points, it will not be there in tel aviv. livni's un resolution is absolutely worthless. usa promises are like that of U thant while british and eu will screw israel to deal with their own immigrants.

no one who can read a map and who knows how to negotiate would ever vote for gabbay, livni, lapid and herzog.

unless jews want to commit suicide which is possible.