why does russia need israel again? this sounds like north korea level propaganda lol

Its a great eye opener -how the Russian Military are incomptent and need to cover their unprofessionalism with lies..Israel is in an invidious position because it cant show them up with their lies-at a time when Pres Putin is trying to show how Russia is on the way up!..At least Pres Putin SEEMS to know the true TIMELINE of events in the ILushin shoot down-hence his description(at the begining ) of it as a sad chain of unfortunate events . Remember he is an intelligence operative from the old days(KGB).He knows the truth
BUT MAIN PROBLEM IS HOW TO KICK IRAN OUT OF SYRIA because those bad guys can start a chain of events leading to a much wider conflagration
Altogether an outstanding opinion piece.

that Israel is not the Ukraine. Israel's leaders will come to realize, if they don't already, that Putin can never be trusted.

My grandmother always said. "If you have the tail of a dog, the legs of a dog, the head of a dog and barks like a dog, then that's it, a dog." Who is the most benefited in this matter? Iran. Who is the hardest hit? Israel. How could Iran twist President Putin's arm quickly? Easy, having a defeated Russian goal blaming Israel. Who has direct influence in the Syrian army and has thousands of agents operating within their ranks? Iran, through Hezbollah. It's a dog, boys, there's no doubt about it and President Putin knows it perfectly, that's why he did not answer the phone three days ago to Bashar al-Asad.

Basically the Russian army wants to justify the full lock down of the Syrian air space and start using the various S400 batteries they got there to shot down intruders

Russians shot down the plane.


Rafik the Arab, the know nothing and understands nothing.

Ynet: do not spit sraight up in the air.
Russia is right, Israel attacked Syria the consequence was the downing of the Russian plane.
Any Math student understands that, but Israel

Agree on that:
This means that both Israel and Russia will have to improve coordination and deconflict the situation in order to prevent future crises. We must not forget that when it comes to Syria—the Russians need us almost as much as we need them.

Russian hubris and Syrian incompetence join forces to guarantee another generation of widows in Moscow and Damask. Nice!

then there is no chance the syrians will hit the russians

I am watching right now a Russian TV report about how Russia did every thing possible to improve Russian Israeli ties. The Israeli leadership did the same! There are many very good reasons to continue this path, and even though you are working for an independent newspaper - G'd knows who is behind this independence - you do not have the right to destroy such an important relationship by so called journalist for whom being good friend to a Anglo-saxonian political elite is more important than the interests of Israel.

One of russian points was that israelis said the attack would take place in the northern syria and this confused them because latakia is western syria. Maybe for professionals this is not a serious arguments but for general public it is.And it might have confused/misled them indeed (maybe because of their level of professionalism).

For the last 70 years Syria has been providing good old anti-Semitic kool-aid to their people as a remedy to all their problems. Whenever anything goes wrong, it’s always Israel’s fault. Even flat tires are Israel’s fault. They have no one else to blame for their corrupt, one party, backward system but themselves. That system eventually caused a civil war in the country and the country now looks like a piece of Shiites. Russia has been in Syria for the last 5 years or so and it looks like ,unfortunately , that they have been mixing the Syrian Kool-Aid with their vodka. There is a remedy of course, If Russia wants to stay in the Middle East then they shouldn’t assume that they understand how Assad is manipulating them. Assad is a pretty smart guy and he seems to be positioning the Russians exactly where he wants them.. (confrontation with Israel).

Rusia GO home too danger for you ,Israel is not Ucraina

Putin is afraid losses in ME will lead to anger of people. same as prolonged war in Vietnam. so he tells a false tale. it would seem his military and that of Syria are not as great as promoted. not good for prolonged mission. soldiers die and people ask why. he should tune down Russian participation before it causes him real trouble at home. they will never win and a long engagement is certain. not the first or last to get trouble with foreign wars.

type of warfare.
They should leave the delicate stuff to the Chosen Ones.

all their S400 $hit. Looks like their systems complete crap, so that's the result. They need the coordination with their stupid syrian friends. Or they can provide Israel with the button switching air defense off when needed.

Russians are allowed in Syria by Israel so long as they behave.

Failure to do so will result in them not breathing ever again

It’s not a great mystery that Israel’s 200+ strikes and routines are mutual in interest to ISIS and the terrorists ripping Syria apart and responsible for Russian deaths.

Not a single party in the world believes your claims that you are in Syria to “stop Iran”. You began your aggression on Syria far before Iran got there via the Golan Heights.

Had it not been for the Israeli terrorism and attempts to destabilize the region, none of this would be necessary.

That you add insult to injury is the typical Israeli way. Not only lying to others but to yourselves via complete delusions and attempted poor tricks is also the typical Zionist way.

Russia deserves to have taken prisoner the IAF head. You’re lucky all they did was permanently ground your jets. The Iranians will change the codes on the S300s delivered and you will be done.

elephant in the room - can do whatever it wants in Syria & elsewhere...

It does not have to provide credible explanations...

WHERE'S THE US? Where's the 6th Fleet? where's your man Trump?

the right have exactly the problem they helped create. They have been groveling to Putin for so long they can't even see he is walking all over them like wet rags. Putin has interests and Israel isn't one of them. He will help destroy Israel if it furthers his influence and economic interests in the middle east. And Putin's servant in the white House isn't going to do anything to stop him.

The truth is that we don't know if there is a such plane or it is a decoy. The aim is simple to know how the Israeli Airforce operates and to sell the 300 series..

typical behaviour, nothing new about that

...to hang itself, which it just did.
Israel's trick is very obvious:
1. Warn the Russians about an attack in Northern Syria, causing the Russian plane to return to Western Syria.
2. Attack in Western Syria then withdraw west.
3. With the approach of the Russian plane to Hmeimim return east as if for attack and position yourself behind the Russian plane so that he gets shot down.
Typical Israeli behaviour. Done with a giggle and one finger up their nostril.

Fact that 1973 war wasn't a "patriotic" war, but a Kissinger-Dayan plan to let Egypt cross the Suez Canal and establish about 5 km wide zone and "save" their honour of loosing 1967 war, Israel still doesn't want to acknowledge, but continues to lie to the public. The lie is usual "vicious attack" by arab countries.
Hundreds of lies have been created since then about every single israeli military adventure.