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American Jews 'love Israel, but feel less welcome'
Yaniv Pohoryles
Published: 07.11.18, 17:31
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1. agenda driven article
david ,   new york   (11.07.18)
clearly thee people want to push their activism, but stop using "American Jews" as an excuse:
most "American Jews" are completely assimilated and have no connection to Israel. in Reform and much of Conservative, they belong to a left wing ideology that considers Israel an oppressor and "apartheid state"
only the orthodox actually care for Israel
and most of American jews who go to reform temples don't particularly care for them either (they hardly ever show up)
2. I like your smiles But the Torah condemns you, I have my way
Rafi Kahlani ,   Beer Shiva, Israel   (11.07.18)
you have yours: Sorry you are Jewish as far as I am concerned
3. Love for Israel doesn't make one Jewish, there are Arabs who
ASSAF YAGORI ,   HAIFA   (11.07.18)
love Israel
4. Aliyah requires a Proof of Judasim letter from a Rabbi....
(11.07.18)
who knows you and can vouchsafe you are Jewish, a requirement which would have excluded most of the 2nd Aliyah. There would not be an Israel today if not for these secular Ashkenazi Jews who actually were the driving force without a doubt of the whole country.
5. Israel does not welcome USA Jews.
(11.07.18)
The average Israeli is jellie of USA Jews and at the same time think they are Hummous and Americans Hamburger. Israeli are jellie of the pathetic little aide package USA receive to settle in Israel. And Israelis have pulled the ladder up on most USA Jews by requiring a Proof of Judaism letter from a Rabbi.
6. TO U.S. JEWS: GET OVER YOURSELVES
TEL EM STRAIGHT ,   SAFED HONESTY   (11.07.18)
Israelis have enough on their plates trying to keep their heads above water ,the shortage of rainfall and the constant demands of worrying about terror threats and future conflict without having to concern themselves with fragile american egos.
7. AMERICAN JEWS
YOSSI THE SABRA ,   SAFED SABRA   (11.07.18)
It seems american jews have too much free time on their hands ,eeh .....
8. CUSTOMS & EXPERIENCES
MR CYNIC ,   SAFED CYNIC HOUSE   (11.07.18)
" israelis need to experience Diaspora Jewry , by getting to know the customs and experiences of american jews." Israelis had best prepare to be introduced to Homosexual marriage, and women Rabbis and other such novel concepts.
9. us jews: fix the disease amidst yours
(11.07.18)
before making demands on Israel. Misguided US Jews voting with BDS-Dems are your first problem. fix it!
10. Stop telling Israel what to do
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (11.07.18)
Americans are great at telling Israelis what we should do for our own 'good'.

They give some money and then think they bought us, sorry but it doesn't work that way.

Put your life on the line with your opinions and then we will listen
11. (Foreign) Jewish people and Israel
Sjoerd van der Velde ,   Hoorn Holland   (11.07.18)
For example, the United States American Jewish people can choose of staying in the US and have the US nationality, while being/remaining Jewish, or make alyia/going to Israel and become Israëli citizens, with Israëli citizenship or nationality. Of course, it is to the Jewish people themselves, to decide to have a Jewish people inside and outside Israel, or to make alyia by the entire Jewish people to the state and land of Israel, if (almost)anybody of the people of Jewish origin agrees/will agree, to live there permanently.
12. Our climate is simply not good for snowflakes -
Tarphon ,   Jerusalem   (11.07.18)
they melt here so quickly.
13. American Jews for the most part loathe Israel
empress trudy ,   raleigh   (11.07.18)
And Israelis feel the same about them. American Jews need not come to Israel and stop lecturing Israelis.
14. No, we don't need to "talk", you need to STFU and start
(11.07.18)
acting like proud Jews& support Israel no matter what we do or don't.
Sounds harsh to your progressive ears, but that's the reality of being Jewish on this planet.
You cannot hide from it, sooner or later the loving neighbors will remind you of your heritage, one way or another.
15. Their Americans, take them down to the Gaza Border, and let
Ken   (11.07.18)
them shoot kids . They love guns, and the snipers could take a holiday in America .
16. These self appointed leaders NEVER side with Israeli dmocrcy
(11.08.18)
Iran
Gaza
Abbas
Settlements
Jerusalem
Obama
Islamism
Mass illegal immigration

They deny Jewish private and national rights while funding and electing orgs and politician's who support terror on Israelis, protect terrorists, support bds and support the end of the Jewish state.

If these are meant to be our brothers and friends I will stick with trump who in less tHan 2 years has a better record for supporting Jews..

Rabin said no Palestinian state shows how deluded these leaders are...
17. Reverse birthright? Where do I sign up?
Daniel   (11.08.18)
I'm an Israeli, and I'd be happy to do something similar to what Mr Goldstein suggest.

18. Maybe the Orthodox
Daniel   (11.08.18)
That's the government, not the average Israeli.

The whole Orthodox-Conservative-Reform problem was always strange to me, because I'm secular - חילוני. They accept me as Jewish although I'm much less observant than most Conservatives.

חילונים מקבלים אתכם בזרועות פתוחות.
19. Israel wants to entice young American jews to stay ? Then -
barbara ,   Haifa   (11.08.18)
give them a good time. From personal experience, teens and the 20's youngsters want to enjoy themselves. May be a bit of history and religion can be thrown in - but 75% should be fun. Carefree, independent atmosphere - that is the key.
20. MAMA, those israelis don't love me mama .
AMERICAN DREAMER ,   SNOWFLAKE CITY   (11.08.18)
21. The winds of change are coming to America and they are not g
Al   (11.08.18)
Not to worry..jews in America will learn to swim in a sea of sharks.

They'll tell themselves all kinds of bs just to stay..but their days in America are numbered.

How long does it take a government to close a bank?

Ask the Jews of Argentina Columbia Venezuela.

It can happen and it will.

Good luck to my American cousins.
22. ORTHODOX 1948
Larry Liss ,   retired from us army   (11.08.18)
HOW MANT ORTHODOX HELD A MAUSER IN THERE HANDS WHEN ISRAEL WAS ATTACKED BY 7 ARAB NATIONS IN 48 COMPARED TO SECULAR JEWS???????? THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN A MILLION DEAD JEWS IF WE DEPENDED ON THESE SO CALLED MEN THEY HAVE LEARNED NOTHING FROM THE PAST THE DEATH CAMPS THE TRANSPORT TRAINS THE ODESSA POGRMS WHERE MY GREAT AUNT HAD HER LEFT BREAST CUT OFF BY A COSSACK SWARD IN HER VILLAGE
23. US Judaism far older than Israeli Judaism
Mark Wiseman ,   New York   (11.12.18)
Most Jews arrived in Israel in the late 1800s or early 1900s. Jews have been living in New York longer than that. Jews of Russia over a Century longer than that. The idea that Israelis are the authentic Jews is simply not true. Israeli Jewish culture is the newest of all Jewish cultures in the world. Almost Everything Israel has was imported by a Jew from another country. The flag, the anthem, the money to by the land, “Israeli” foods, Zionism itself. Show respect to the diaspora. We invented you.
24. Why Would Any Young American Jew Want To Live In Israel?
World Citizen ,   the world   (11.12.18)
Young American Jews are pampered. Their rich parents pay for them to attend elite universities and use their Jewish connections to land them in good positions in government and business. If they came to Israel they would have to serve in the military. This is something they would never do in the USA. They might even have to do manual labour during the two year enlistment or worse, guarding a hot, smelly dusty checkpoint on the West Bank. Another thins is they can't speak the language and they certainly won't work for the average Israeli wage. The best thing would be for their parents to buy them a condo on the beach in Tel Aviv and they could come over spend money to support the economy during the high season.
25. Israel not an experament if not on our side stay at home~
jore ,   la   (11.15.18)
26. Ordinary US Jews need to srart questioning their “leaders”
QuestionYour”Leaders ,   Jerusalem   (11.19.18)
I’m sure the ordinary American Jew doesn’t want to force super liberal ideas or Reform Judaism down the throats of unwilling Israeli throats
It’s the US unelected “ leaders” who speak in their names that are “ unwelcome” not the average U S Jew they are loved and welcomed
27. Jews were here in Israel 2,000 years ago !
Moshe Israel ,   Tivon, Israel   (11.19.18)
That the USA was involved in Jewish culture is a strange idea ! Almost
Everything Jewish in the USA has was imported by a Jew from another country.
Most Jews arrived in The USA in the late 1800s or early 1900s.

If you know it or not the Jews were in Israel 2,000 years ago.
The revival of Hebrew has NOTHING to do with the USA Jews.
The flag, the anthem , "Israeli foods", Zionism itself is the product of Zionists
NOT from the USA.

YES in 1948 the $$ came from USA Jews.

YES Israelis are open, but NOT stupid enough to think that the "We " you swagger about includes the USA Jews.
28. Look, we're HERE, you're THERE. Let's leave it at that...?
(11.20.18)
29. STAY IN AMERICA WHERE YOU ARE. YOU ARE TOO SOFT FOR ISRAEL
oleg ,   Florida   (11.24.18)
30. I SEEN THOSE UGLY SOFT FACES IN NY AND FLORIDA.
oleg ,   Florida   (11.24.18)
IF YOU WANT TO MOVE TO ISRAEL RENOUNCE YOUR USA CITIZENSHIP. YOU ARE GOING TO USE ISRAEL AND THAN RETURN TO LALA LAND. THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL ARE NO SUCKERS. STAY WHERE YOU ARE. BECOME INVESTMENT BANKS, LAWYERS OR PLASTIC DOCTORS.
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