than the sitting president of the US Obama, went to the congress to challenge the sitting American president. All of his alignments with republicans will prove disastrous for Israel in the long run. Israel will one day learn the lessons the Iranians learnt years ago , that maximalist positions are self-defeating and time is an important variable in the thinking. Western thinking is based on the short-term gains, Asian thinking and planning (including the Chinese and Japanese) is focused on the long-term improvements of the position.

I am not sure what is wrong with people like Kleinberg. They had their big chance when he was a young boy. Maybe he doesn't remember. The "intelligent" "cool" "moral" "enlightened (yes! They called themselves ENLIGHTENED!) did their thing. 1000 innocent Israelis were killed.

You blew it. Find a hole, Aviad. If I was you, I would be so embarrassed, I would take up as a Buddhist monk and take a vow of silence to repent.

He made a simple observation that nations that are powerful impose their will on their neighbors without getting called out for "occupation".
Russia in the Crimea, Turkey in Cyprus, and so on.
Netanyahu is not saying Israel should not worry about behaving morally.
What he is saying is that the "occupation" argument becomes more muted as Israel becomes more powerful.
What the author failed to note is that in case of Israel, "occupation is bull" because Israel can legitimately argue, not an occupier, either legally or morally.

6.7 million Jews would be pushed into the sea, massacred, exiled, reduced to dhimmi status, if not for Israeli power.
What the self righteous author failed to get is that Israel does NOT do to others with its power what others did unto the Jews.

Amazing how ignorant or intentional these so called historians are when they speak of occupation which the Hague convention 1907 clearly dismisses.
You cant occupy land of a non nation when you have the legal claim. UN charter clear on this.

Anyone with a basic understanding in international relations knows both legally and practically, if you don't fight for your rights they disappear.
Israel has not stood up for its rights, so not only does the UN deny them, but so do "professional historians".

Over thousand years Islamic Reich colonized, massacred, destroyed much of the historic texts and so on. This is who Israel is fighting with.

Jews had kingdoms in Mecca area were massacred as with the whole region.

To compare bibI and Israel to the 1000y Reich is disgusting and clearly has no historical accuracy Mr professional..

Arabs control the region and oppress all minorities but you pretend Israel nd bibI are the problem.

The more Israel retreats to a defensive rather than preemptive stance our enemies get bolder stronger and target us more. Learn some history and regional politica... their intention is our destruction and they are very clear about this.

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Convention (IV) respecting the Laws and Customs of War on Land and its annex: Regulations concerning the Laws and Customs of War on Land. The Hague, 18 October 1907.
ANNEX TO THE CONVENTION: REGULATIONS RESPECTING THE LAWS AND CUSTOMS OF WAR ON LAND - SECTION III : MILITARY AUTHORITY OVER THE TERRITORY OF THE HOSTILE STATE - REGULATIONS: ART. 42.
Art. 42. Territory is considered occupied when it is actually placed under the authority of the hostile army.
The occupation extends only to the territory where such authority has been established and can be exercised.

Anyone who can read can tell you that this is talking about states. Since Palestine was never a state, the occupation does not exist. Netanyahu is 100% right.

You are guilty of omission and of lying to your self and to the world, in order to promote and to perpetuate your lie, that there is in fact a Palestinian nation and people besides the Jews, the actual Palestinians, who were disenfranchised from their lands, when in fact the Muslims are NOT Palestinians and that they have no claim to a Palestinian nation or Palestine. The truth hurts, but it is the truth!


The very word "Palestine", was created by the Romans in order to remove any association of Jews to their land, Israel, which even the Quran acknowledges as belonging to the Jews! The word "
Palestinian" was until very recently, applied to the indigenous Jews in Israel It was meant to perpetuate the disassociation of Jews, Israelis, from their land which Islam claims as their own through the recently contrived people, made up of Jordanians, Egyptians, etc. who are trying to revise history, claiming to be victimized by the Jews in stating falsely that they were disenfranchised from their lands! The great Muslim lie!


There is NO Jewish occupation! There is only a Muslim occupation of Judea & Samaria, which the Muslims cleverly renamed 'The West Bank', in order to de-Judaize the area in the world's collective mind. The Muslims of Jordan (formerly Trans-Jordan, which England created), cleverly re-named themselves "Palestinians" in the 1960's, and revised history in order to gain world sympathy for their cause, which is the annihilation of Israel, and to teach the great lie, which is, that the Jews stole their land from them! Before Jordan started its war against Israel, they told their Muslims brothers in Jerusalem & in Samaria & in Judea to sell the land to the Jews, because they were confident that they & their co-religionist Muslim nations (Syria, Egypt, etc.), would destroy Israel & so they could thereafter keep the land as well. So they sold & fled & waited for the results of the war. Israel won that war. They recaptured the Holy Jewish land; Jerusalem, Samaria & Judea. They rightfully settled it, even though Obama the Muslim, who constantly quotes the Qoran, (NOT the Bible), demands Israel to stop settling Jewish, G-d-given land. Israel, unlike the Jordanians, allowed Christians & Muslims to come & go freely in those areas. The deeds to the land were and are owned by Jews. They allowed the Muslims to continue living in Jewish apartments & homes as long as they continued paying rent to the Jews. Arafat came along & told the Muslims to be arrogant & not pay! They stopped paying and were consequently evicted. Of course Islam, the revisionist liars, tell the world that the Jews are pushing them out of their rightful land! It is NOT Muslim land, regardless of the fact that the Muslims continue to teach and even believe their own lies!

Furthermore, The Jewish site called the ‘Holy of Holies’, in the city that King David purchased, called Jerusalem, which he stated to be the “Eternal capital” of the Jewish nation, was desecrated by Islam. Islam conquered the city and immediately built a mosque on top of it, which they call the Al Aqsa.

Jerusalem was never holy to Islam. It is NOT mentioned in the hate-spewing Qoran.
Muslims state that Jerusalem is “alluded to” in the Qoran, but the Jewish nation states UNAMBIGUOUSLY in its Torah, which came thousands of years before Islam was invented, that Jerusalem is our holy city and eternal capital. Jerusalem has always been uttered in Jewish prayers and in our supplications to G-d to bring us out of our diaspora, home to Jerusalem!

Israel offers women equal rights, unlike Islam, and for Muslims as well, and offers Muslims education at the highest levels, the right to serve in the military even as officers, the right to vote, the right to hold political office, and even the right to represent Israel in a diplomatic capacity! Islamic countries offer Jews oppression and massacre them! Israel is NOT apartheid!

The occupation, writes the expert, "has been disturbing our peace for over 50 years". And what has been before the "occupation" ? Terror by the Fedayeen (Arab terrorists), harsher than recent.


After the signing the Oslo accords in 1993, IDF withdrew from most of West Bank. From September 2000, upon flaring of the Second Intifada, 1137 Israelis were killed in buses, restaurants and other public places, and 8,341 were injured, many of whom became handicapped.

The lesson is that Israeli military present in Judea and Samaria saves many Jewish lives, perhaps of the author's too. And I don't tackle the ideological justification of the settlements.

i am very surprised to read that this article was writain by a proffesional historian

"May you get what you wish for ..."

So, Occupation is bull? If the Pals aren't occupied, then they are either citizens or there is official rather than accidental apartheid. Choose.

Of course the extreme right wing will continue to call for forced expulsion of the Pals from the WB (sorry, Judea and Samaria) ... and the right wing lunatic rabbis (poor choice of title) will continue to say it's ok to kill Arabs.

In any case, if Netanyahu gets his way of "no occupation" with no Palestinian state ... the result is no Jewish state. The status quo is not stable. If Israel deliberately and openly becomes either an apartheid state or ethnically cleanses the WB then it no longer is a Jewish state, as it would have abandoned all Jewish values. In any case, if this goes on much longer the world will abandon Israel and it's newly found moral compasses of Saudi and other Arab dictatorships won't help at all.

Dangerous as come from inside , Esav Rooting , seems that we still need to extract some kilpa residues? Very borring as playind same song over and over and Ynet get out from fresh and inspiring new approach!!!!

of this serial-Leftist author....

Recent surveys show only 8% of Israelis identify themselves as leftists. It's not just Bibi who rejects the evil fiction of "occupation" and "Palestine". It's virtually all of Israel. This land is ours. No more homage to "Palestine".

for the simple reason that that the Israeli gov't in 1967 described the takeover of the West Bank from Jordanian forces as an occupation and installed a military governor according to the UN rules of occupation. East Jerusalem was annexed but all the other areas remain "occupied" by the Israeli governments own definition. Bibi can spout all the rubbish he wants but he doesn't have the balls to change the situation. Until he annexs the west bank these areas are "occupied".