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South Africa: Jewish students kneel during Israel's national anthem
Yaniv Pohoryles
Published: 21.11.18, 21:40
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1. SNOWFLAKES
TEL EM STRAIGHT ,   SAFED HONESTY   (11.21.18)
2. What is being protested?
Ed ,   USA   (11.22.18)
Protest Likud, if that what this was, and the world assumes you want to send Jews to the gas chambers. Under these circumstances, speech is not entirely free. Better to make the point in some way that can't be misinterpreted.
3. Oy, the Jews....
Sam ,   NYC   (11.22.18)
This is exactly why G-d punishes us. Because we turn on each othet, because our collectuve mental illness prevents us from realizing our common fate.
One set of Jewish degeneratescdecude to repair the world and become socualists, communists or worse. At the same time another group of degenerare group of Jews decide that they direct WiFi with G-d, and so they dress like f....g penguins and despise everybody who doesn't look or do as they do. Gotta admit it - our self-hatred, on one hand, and our arrogance on the other, are both state if art.
4. Naive and misguided
Maurice ,   Los Angeles   (11.21.18)
They want to see real human right violation? Look no further than Hamas in Gaza.
5. I HOPE THEY DIE BY MUSLIM TERRORISTS. YOUR PARENTS ARE PROUD
oleg ,   Florida   (11.21.18)
ISRAEL SHOULD CLOSED ITS MISSION IN SOUTH AFRICA AND STOP EL-AL FLIGHTS TO THIS COUNTRY.
6. MR
Eliyahu Kitov ,   safed   (11.22.18)
As an ex-south african, i advise the Ronnie Kasrils refered to above as a comentator on morality used to send telegrams of condolence to yasser arafat every time israel bombed him
7. The Arab influence
Moshe   (11.21.18)
It seems that Arab wealth buys media's sympathy worldwide, and it is rewarding its benefactors by demonizing Israel. The general public is brainwashed with lies, and many are convinced.

8.  privileged brats
excaptonian ,   Tel aviv israel   (11.22.18)
These spoilt privileged brats need to spend time in Israel not as molly coddled tourists on some subsidized school tour but to experience life living here under constant threat of rocket, knife , car ramming and random other terrorist attacks. A large majority of the Jews living in Cape Town are affluent compared to the general population so these spoilt brats grow up in a cacooned environment and rarely get to mix with other less privileged sections of the population. From the day they born the most strenuous activity they do is wipe their own rear ends. The rest is done by maids picking up their dirty clothing dumped on the floor, washing their clothing, washing up their dirty dishes etc. They are delivered and collected from school by mom or dad or by private transport . Their co scholars some from other population groups are in general from affluent homes as fees at their school cost more than University . One questions their true reasons for taking the knee during Hatikvah. My bet it is to try to gain acceptance and "self preservation" from the large muslim population living in Cape Town who like the ANC government are anti Israel. They can be compared to the few Jews during the Holocaust who in order to save themselves co-operated with the Nazis.
9. SCUMBAGS
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (11.21.18)
10. It’s about context
David ,   Maryland   (11.22.18)
It’s not wise to criticize Israel this way when you’re surrounded by those who don’t simply disagree with Israeli policy, rather they disagree with Israel’s existence. Your proving fodder to Israel’s enemies, not well meaning critics. It’s not about free speech but rather realpolitik.
11. Tell them we in Israel don't care and don't come to us later
Rephael Rechitzky ,   Toronto   (11.22.18)
Those students forget that in South Africa, they are nothing. The only home for Jews is Israel, where proud Israelis defend their country with their lives, for the sake of millions of Jews around the world. We don't have to go down to your level, but please, don't come to Israel when problems start in your Jews hated country. Enjoy your life and leave us alone. Fight with the blacks against your own community. Gook luck.
12. Guaranteed the parents are commies
Moshekojo   (11.22.18)
The kids need to be kicked out of the school. Let them go to school with the blacks
13. Always criticise.. but no help or solution
Ben ,   Haifa   (11.22.18)
South Africa criticizing Israel.... this is a joke.

Their country is plagued by high criminality rates, people are living in closed communities behind high walls, security camera's, and private security companies. But celebrate human rights......, special when they invaded your house, rob everything and kill you, they do not consider your human rights on that moment.

Human rights are is very important in Israel but safety is more important
Apparently it is better to live with ideology than with reality.


14. I left South Africa I coukd not express mysepf and be safe
Baruch ,   Gush Etzion   (11.22.18)
I was a contributing, socially concious member of South African society. I received awards for my contributions to dignity and the voluntary work I did which saved anyone, irrespective of race. Due to the demographics, most of my indigent patients, who received voluntary services were black.

I am proud 9f Israel, as a socially concious human, Israel and its concious society ahoukd be the envy of all moral people and a source of our pride.

Expressing that sentiment in Cape Town will earn death threats and physical attack. Ask our christian friends in Bridges for Peace about freedom of speech when you are pro-Israel in the Rainbow Nation
15. I HOPE ISRAEL WILL NOT LET THEM ENTER & DEPORT THEM ASAP.
oleg ,   Florida   (11.22.18)
THE SOUTH AFRICAN JEWS COMMUNITY ORIGINATED FROM JEWS WHO SURVIVED THE HOLOCAUST OR ARRIVED TO S.A. BEFORE THE WAR. THEY ARE SUPER WEALTHY SELFISH AND TREAT THE LOCALS LIKE TRASH. I KNOW THESE CHARACTERS FROM ISRAEL. SOME OF THEM LIVE IN SAVION FROM THE 1960'S.. MY LATE MOTHER WORKED FOR A FAMILY FROM JOHANNESBURG.AS A HOUSE KEEPER. THEY TREATED MY BEAUTIFUL MOTHER LIKE AN ANIMAL. I WAS GROWING UP WITH STORIES HOW RICH AND ABUSIVE THESE PEOPLE ARE.IN SAVION AND SOUTH AFRICA BOTH PLACES THEY LIKE TO LIVE BEHIND FENCES AND BARB WIRES. THE GOOD GOD IS WATCHING. THIS TWO BOYS FORGET THAT THE JEWS ARE NOT LIKED IN THEIR SO CALLED COUNTRY. THE JEWS THEIR STAY NOT FOR LOVE OF COUNTRY BUT LOVE OF MONEY.
16. A palestinian school.
jochair thijssen ,   kfar saba israel   (11.22.18)
nobody in Africa protests against Palestinian Aeab policies towards Israel.
The more Palestinians go to shool in SA the better, It is far enough from Israel
Let them stay there.
17. you should protest against your govt abuse of human rights.
oleg ,   Florida   (11.22.18)
stupid misguided rich jews. who never worked a day in their lives surrounded by black maids and housekeepers with jews like that I am a shamed to call myself a jew.
18. That's rich coming from a failed state
Jake   (11.23.18)
like South Africa, where chaos, murder, mayhem, and and oppression rule ok.
Where the government has utterly failed its people and resembles the new ruling class in George Orwell's 'Animal Farm'.

These rich spoiled Jewish kids who shamelessly bash Israel are not forced to sing "Hatikvah". They could simply remain silent. They "take the knee" to make a point.
19. Don't blame them.Blame the fact they do not know history
Ajay ,   Mumbai   (11.24.18)
The Jewish community of Karachi, Pakistan was ethnically cleansed in 1947 along with MILLIONS of Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, & Jains. Bet the kids in SA do not know about this. There are 2 documentaries on youtube they must watch. THE FORGOTTEN REFUGEES (the story of Jews expelled from Islamic lands) and SIX DAYS IN JUNE (the story of how the occupation began).Israelis are doing a bad job of explaining their position. Do not blame the kids. Blame yourselves.
20. ONE DAY YOU WILL BEG ISRAEL TO RESCUE YOU FROM YOUR PARADISE
oleg ,   Florida   (11.25.18)
STAY IN SOUTH AFRICA AND LEAVE MY ISRAEL ALONE. STAY AWAY.
21. Most of posters here are 100% correct about pupils at Hertzl
Alan ,   SA   (11.25.18)
In my days at Witwatersrand Joburg University in 1960s and 1970s ,Jewish Students would rush to support anti White Government Demonstrations in favour of the African Population. Today the latter population is not so Jew and Israel loving.despite all this.
22. Helen Suzman Member Parliament for majority Jewish area
Alan ,   SA   (11.25.18)
and ONLY one for the Progressive Party , FOR YEARS ,in the time of dark days of Apartheid. At risk to her personal safety she spoke for the unenfranchised Black people.of those days . She regularly visited political prisoners including Nelson Mandela on the Island.. She was the go to person for help and advice for all oppressed.(Black and White)-all the locked up people
I read AFTER democracy that the view was held in political quarters that she was just another White who led a privileged life..... Nu?
23. These kids need a quick expulsion
Davi ,   drew york   (11.26.18)
I somehow believe that this school has a bigger problem than 2 students who sympathize with our enemies.
If they can legally do it, they must immediately expel those students
But perhaps the school administration doesn't see it as a problem
24. It takes guts
Marko ,   Rannana   (11.26.18)
It takes guts to take a stand for your believes.
25. Hypocrisy
Bar Star ,   Jerusalem   (11.27.18)
These kids live on the land taken away from native Zulus and side with the Muslim jihadists who occupy a big portion of the Land of Israel.
26. ANOTHER SMART ASS LEFTY JEW. JEWS NEVER LEARN FROM HISTORY
oleg ,   Florida   (11.27.18)
27. These two think they know everything, but know nothing
Reuven   (11.29.18)
I hope they are expelled.
28. I hope they survive the brutal right wing attack
Mark ,   New York City   (11.29.18)
Those kids will probably be shunned and attacked as traitors and know-nothings. It happens to everyone who dares protest the Israeli government and right wing ideology more broadly. I hope those brave kids keep thinking and reading and expressing themselves, even if their conclusions run counter to the mob.
29. Next time the world hunts Jews, don't come looking for help.
Spoiled fools   (11.30.18)
30. See, we're like all others: have our own idiots!
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