Opinion  Shimon Shiffer
US leaves Israel to fight its battles alone
Shimon Shiffer
Published: 20.12.18, 23:27
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1. I don't remember other countries fighting alongside the IDF.
DSM ,   USA   (12.21.18)
Shiffer says Trump is reprehensible for abandoning Israel. What nonsense. Does Shiffer believe Israel was better supported by Carter, Clinton, the Bushes, Obama...of course not. Trump campaigned on bringing the troops back from Syria and in doing so he has fulfilled another campaign promise. Now let us see if Bibi can fulfill his promise to protect his own country.
2. Trump's a DISASTER for the Free World... and his die-hard
Rafi ,   US   (12.21.18)
supporters in the US and Israel share responsibility for the calamities that could now take place in the Middle East.
3. Shimon Shiffer, way to live up to the stereotype
Karl   (12.21.18)
Way to live up to the stereotype of a backstabbing jew. Trump and America will always have your back. Stand up and fight your own fights as you should.
4. Trump is for America...time to grow up and stop being
Al   (12.21.18)
A schnorrer.

You're 70 years old.

Take that welfare teat out of your mouth and stand on your own two feet.

Pony up and fight for your lives.

No one is going to save your tuchus.

No one.
5. Got to throw out a little love for Obama
Steve Klein   (12.21.18)
"....unlike Obama's America, which successfully eliminated al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden."
6. United States, Israel and the rest of our humankind.
Sjoerd van der Velde ,   Hoorn Holland   (12.21.18)
First and foremost, it is the task and job of the Israëli government, parliament. other Israëli politicians, Israëli police, Israëli army, Mossad and Shin Beth/Shabak, to protect the Israëli people and Israel. That also goes more or less, for any other country, with a permanent people, living there, on Earth. Alas, the "islam" world-caliphate, together/combined with other/more crime, still exists. That is not only an issue for Israel alone. Any country has the duty to deal with that problem, threat and danger. To begin with, to protect, to defend and to serve the own people(s). More than 190 diferent countries, on this planet. With or without the United Nations Organization, UN. We also have a responsiblity to our national, internal and domestic people, to eachother and our humankind. Diplomatic initiativs also have to be done by the intergovernemental and international community, to reach security and peace for any country and people(s), anywhere and Always. With the right goodwill, it is/will be possible, to realise almost a human paradise and heaven, on our planet, WITH THE PERMISSION AND KNOWLEDGE OF OUR G.D.
7. You're joking !?!
(12.21.18)
You receive billions of dollars from the U.S. and there are so many bills in our Congress pertaining to protecting Israel, one begins to wonder if there is enough time and energy left over to take care of Americans.

President Trump is the President of the United States, not Israel.

There are major concerns with protecting your needs vs. the eroding of our own civil liberties of free speech, the state anti-BDS laws are being challenged, and two members of Congress came out against adopting the federal Israel Anti-Boycott Law within the budget legislation.

Two newest members of the House support BDS, and are Palestinian American.

Zionism is not Judaism and there is much confusion over criticism of a government, any government as being anti-Semitic. Ridiculous. And all the while anti-Semitism is rising in the Diaspora.

Trump is the U.S. President, to keep it that way, he needs to remember that.

8. Bravo to Trump! Syria was never an American issue.
David ,   Hartford USA   (12.21.18)
And Israel is a big boy and doesn't need a babysitter. Putin won't let Iran get out of hand and Assad will be too busy looking over his shoulder to do much else, as just about everybody wants him dead.

Iran knows that if any Iranian weapons get fired at Israel, Tehran, and the regime, will be history. Life would have been easier if Obama hadn't given Iran billions in cash, but that's water under the bridge.

It's time for America to leave all these Muslim cesspools and let the chips fall where they may. Israel isn't stupid and it's not weak. Those are the first two lessons Iran will learn if it doesn't behave.
9. Trump is no Ragen - Trump is a quitter
MadDad ,   Johannesburg   (12.21.18)
Trump you are fired
10. Whatever it takes to discredit Trump.
Joseph ,   USA   (12.21.18)
First Trump is the best friend we have had in the white house. Second in regards your open ed you should be trusting more in HaShem and less on whomever suits in the Oval office.
11. Israel Does Not Need Trump
Kelilah bat Chavah ,   Jerusalem   (12.21.18)
Israel did not need Trump when nations attacked within 24 hours of Israel being named a State. Israel did not need Trump when they fought and won the Six Day War. Israel did not need Trump when they captured Jerusalem and returned it back into the hands of the Jewish people. Israel did not need Trump when it took out Nuclear Facilities in Middle East.... And Israel does not need Trump now to fight Iran or any nation that comes against it.... Israel has the King of Heaven's Armies, He is our Commander and Chief and He goes into battle with us to fight our enemies for us to save us. Israel is very thankful to President Trump but Israel does not need Trump for our G-d is more capable to save Israel then any man on this earth. Just an FYI
12. Hope You're Paying Attention
Ed ,   USA   (12.21.18)
The American Jewish community knew what a dangerous fraud Trump is when they voted overwhelmingly for Clinton. The illusion of supporting Israel by moving a symbolic small piece of the embassy to Jerusalem has pulled the wool over the eyes of right wing Israelis.

Trump won't protect Israel, he only cares about himself.
13. You abandoned me ,love don't love here anymore.
ROSE ROYCE ,   SAFED CYNIC HOUSE   (12.21.18)
14. CONFUCIUS SAYS :
CONFUCIUS ,   SAFED CHINA   (12.21.18)
" It is good to trust ,but it is better not to trust ."
15. So no more Marines patrolling the streets of Tel Aviv&Haifa?
(12.21.18)
16. mr. trump.
steve ,   beer sheva   (12.21.18)
As usual the right and the religious got it wrong.After their delirous euphoric exclamations when Trump made the empty and banal gesture on Jerusalem we now see true nature of this man - lots of hot air but nothing else
How long will Israelis be taken in bu the bombast and naivity of this coalition?
17. Shiffer... reality: Israel defends Israel !
observerms ,   Tivon, Israel   (12.21.18)
Shiffer is not helping Israelis to deal with reality.

If hiz decides to launch its arsenal of missiles on Israel, even the presence of a few thousand USA troops in Syria will not matter !

hiz, is hesitant to attack Israel ONLY because of the certainty that Israel will devastate their base and kill the fatso, nasty nasrallah..

18. it is betrayal of allies
C   (12.21.18)
trump had made certain promises to traditional allies, and those promises
have been broken.
this betrayal of allies and of western liberal values is the reason for
the resignation of general mattis as secretary of defence.

israel must learn once and for all that she cannot count on any
foreign states or entities for her defence.
giving up the development of the lavi was a very serious mistake.
now israel's entire air force is made up of foreign platforms.
19. shiffer-stop acting like livni and lapid
ariel   (12.21.18)
oh my god Washington will not save us is no longer appropriate. Israel has the means to take care of itself. it can develop alliances to assist it.trump cares about money and that is it. forget about depending on him.

netanyahu tried his best-he is a diplomat, not a steely one, but he tried. since Israel has had trouble with hezbollah under olmert , and hamas in gaza with bibi, related more to its leaders than the people of israel who are strong;but they do pick the wrong leaders.

it is obvious that going on the offense is essential. changes in softening up , brutal softening up prrocedures need to be implement. idf should goaround obstacles. two of the biggest deficiencies are

1. a lack of surface to surface rockets to balance the terror equation. since airpower will take time and obstacle, land rockets post no risk to israelis. the other side must feel the terror as ,much as israelis fee. so a missile command should stockpile 100,000 rockets asap, fast.

2. rabbinic inculcation. memory of history can become rusty. Israel has an army and a land. it must defend not only for its citizens but as promise to the Jews killed buy the Romans, and the Jews killed by European pogroms and holocaust.

Israel can deal with things ahead but it needs an attacking soldier type or a strong willed persion running the idf. that person is not bibi. or gantz. it is bennett or feiglin. bibi is unable to handle a multifront war. he simply lacks the spine for it. he would run to a ceasefire that harms israel as he did with gaza on 2 occasions. don't blame him. he is a man of words and letters, not a fighting soldier.

the sooner Israel adopts these changes, it will be in a good position. and do not put any trust, i mean any trust in Putin. and stop being scared of him. hold your position and just tell him to keep out of Israel's way.i do not think bibi has the guts to tell him that.
20. we are ducks in a shooting range
hadfield   (12.21.18)
some settlers say we are ducks in a shooting range. so do something other than complain to idf and bibi. fire back. get your guns , go on patrols, look for any threats and fire back.t ake action. don't sit back. don't follow bibi's hide behind fences strategy. not only handguns, but village security should have rifles. but go on patrols is very necessary.
21. Trump has switched Melania for HOT Kim...
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (12.21.18)
Wimp Trump was NEVER an ally.
22. Why shouldn't the USA do what is right for them?
Sylvia ,   Atlanta   (12.22.18)
May be Israelis need to learn to appreciate all Trump is doing for them.
Who fights Israels fight at the UN? who fights against BDS in the US? Who is sending billions of US tax payers $ to Israel? We as American do not have the Social benefits you Israelis have. Since your defense budget is subsidized heavily by the US tax payer you can afford government subsidized medical care, you can afford to pay stipends for each child, you can afford to subsidize elder in home care and than you spit in the Amrican's face by selling arms and know how to countries that can hurt the USA. Worse of all it's giving the Chinese the management of the Israeli ports, not only you endanger the USA but you endanger Israels security as well. The US is going out on a limb to protect Israel against its enemies at the UN and around the world. How many times did China vote with Israel? Try hard maybe, maybe you will find 1 time?? China voted to condemn Israel hundreds of times yet Israel welcomes them with open arms. Stop playing the Democrats politics, when the USA pulls out from Syria, their warships and airplane carriers are close by, that's what they have used mostly till now not tropes fighting on the ground. Afghanistan is a different matter. There, there are troops on the ground and its time for the Afghani's to to fight their own fight. There isn't any reasons why Americans should be ambushed by their Afghani counterpart. Trump promised to bring our kids home and that what he is doing. If my summation is incorrect, I am elated to know that Israel is doing it all alone and no longer needs our help. Lots of people would love to have their taxes reduced so they could afford to buy health insurance or afford to have round the clock elder care or receive a monetary stipend for each child they have.
23. Beside the political explanations
Antares ,   Apeldoorn   (12.22.18)
"the prime minister's claim that Trump is one of the friendliest American presidents Israel has ever had"

I'd wish that our Western media were so candid, we would drop Israel immediately.

"Netanyahu managed to prevent any Israeli intervention in the Syrian civil war"

This is untrue, that's why Russia has changed its course dramatically.

Beside the political explanations no one seems to acknowledge how the United States are cornered inside of Syria. Israel pushed it to far and got what it feared most.
24. trumpf..haarumpf
HERMAN ROSEN ,   HOLLAND   (12.22.18)
TRUMP IS A LOOSE CANNON AND DOES THINGS IN AN INSTANT
BY SHEER INSTINCT....THIS MOVE OUT OF SYRIA PALES IN
COMPARISON TO THE EMBASSY MOVE..WHICH ONLY HAS
COSMETIC SIGNIFICANCE..THIS MOVE COULD EMBOLDEN
IRAN AND SYRIA AND MAY INVOLVE ISRAEL IN A WAR OF
SURVIVAL...TRUMP GETS HIS ORDERS FROM 1) FOX NEWS
20) VLADMIR PUTIN..3) RUSH LIMBOUGH....HE DOES NOT READ
ANYTHING...AND NOW HE HAS SHUT DOWN THE U S GOVERNMENT
HE WILL BE IMPEACHED BY A DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS IN 2019
ISRAEL SHOULD BEWARE OF THIS IDIOT
25. Israel has never fought its own battles, UK, USA, France
Steve Benassi ,   Plymouth, MN USA   (12.22.18)
... Europe, and the UN handed Palestine to the Jews on a silver platter. All wars Israel fought were with weaker Arab neighbors, and with the backing of the United States, the UK, and France.

The minority "Jewish State" cannot survive demographically, even if the West continues to support Israel.

$4T wasted so far. Trump should recognize Palestine on 1967 borders, which will force Israel to negotiate Peace, 2 States 1 Country.

26. Why shouldn’t Israel fight it’s own wars?
Avi ,   NYC   (12.23.18)
Why should American Goyim send their kids to Syria?
If Israel wants to help the Kurds it should send its own vaunted soldiers to do the job.
27. The only time US soldiers were deployed in Israel was 1991
Shachar ,   Eilat   (12.23.18)
when they manned Patriot batteries which missed everything...and that was the US's war anyway. Israel is not the problem here even if the withdrawal is not good for us. It is the other US allies who are being thrown under the bus so Trump can repay Putin for helping him win the 2016 election. Arab countries aren't big fans of the US anyway and now they can't trust them either. The sunni countries are likely to snuggle up to Putin and Iran to save their butts and that is really bad news for us.
28. please leave us alone
An American ,   Boston   (12.29.18)
like seriously, you'll be fine with what we've given you. And keep AIPAC out of the Republican Democratic Libertarian & Green Parties, we have a country facing recession to run.
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