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Conversion rows and broken Western Wall promises: How Israel is alienating US Jewry
Kobi Nachshoni, Kim Legziel
Published: 06.04.19, 00:34
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1. US Jews must stick to their Obamas,Bernies, AOC and Dems
Alan ,   SA   (04.06.19)
Israel is Israel..Nobody is asking the US Jews to vote for Bibi.. Israel runs its business for Israeli Jews.and for the future of Jews over the world.Who cares what US Jews think..
2. Orthodox Judaism is dying and leaving mostly enemies behind.
Michael ,   California, USA   (04.06.19)
Moreover, the Orthodox Judaic tribe in Israel is usurping money from the hard-working public. This parasitic tribe, a fanatic cast really which is only relevant to its adherents in private, ought to be eliminated from political life once and for all everywhere.
3. WHAT?
HERMAN ROSEN ,   HOLLAND   (04.06.19)
RELIGIOUS MUMBO JUMBO IRKS JEWISH YANKEES TO NO END
THE ULTRA ORTHODOX WILL NOT EVEN TALK TO REFORM JEWS
AND NOW WITH THEIR ANTI VACCINATION MISHAGOSS
THEY ARE EVEN A DANGER...I ASSUME IN ISRAEL MEASLES
VACCINATION IS A REQUIREMENT
4. Support welcome, Critique? Not until your a citizen
Mm   (04.06.19)
It’s that simple.
5. In New Zealand
Boaz   (04.06.19)
There are two very active members of the reform community; Chris and Christine. Are they jews?
6. Judaism, Christianity and Islam
Me   (04.06.19)
Reform is an offshot of Christianity, same as Anglicans, Presbitarian and so on
7. American Jews alienating themselves
Steve Benassi ,   Minneapolis USA   (04.06.19)
They do so by constantly adopting radical Leftist positions, moving away from Judaism and Israel farther and farther.
8. These groups do not live in Israel.
Al   (04.06.19)
Respect your hosts.

9. Ynetv
david ,   Jerusalem   (04.06.19)
Who cares if they alienate American jews , what’s important is staying true to our forefathers & religion.

Does YNET have anything to say about the Waqf controlling & domination the Temple Mount.
10. Torah Law
Sam Tayar ,   Montreal   (04.06.19)
' they have had to undergo a slow grueling conversion process, due to the monopoly the Rabbinate has over the procedure"

Actually, the conversion is a Jewish (Torah) process with which the Rabbinate has nothing to do except possibly monitor it.
11. nasty people
(04.06.19)
I think most of American Jews do not care about Isroel. World is plenty of nice places to go... who needs you?
12. There is no pope in Judaism. No one Jew can dictate to other
Lorraine   (04.06.19)
The Western Wall belongs to the Jewish People--not to Israel. It is not necessary for all Jews to live in Israel in order to be owners of their major holy site. (Note--in all other religions, all the members do not live in the country in which the major holy site is located--that does not delegitimize them or make them lesser owners of their respective sites). If there are disagreements among Jews as to how to use the site, they must negotiate among themselves in good faith--that is, without vile vilifications by some against others (as has been happening regularly from the Orthodox/Ultra-Orthodox fold). There is no pope in Judaism--and no Jew has the right to dictate to others how to be a Jew. Only good faith negotiations are in order--and it is greatly possible that no one side will end up getting everything they want. Attention to all Orthodox/Ultra-Orthodox players in this game: you are not God's spokespeople. You are human beings, just the same as non-Orthodox Jews.
13. The article is correct
(04.06.19)
The two communities are absolutely vastly different. Israel needed U.S. Jews and the financial support of the U.S. early on to establish itself.

The 2 state solution is long abandoned, yes, by Israel, too, and Hasbara has clouded the truth for many younger Jews who were given only one narrative in their religious schools. The settler movement of now, was not as many of us believed Israel to be, as a democracy.

We are citizens of different countries.

The division is widening as anti-semitism increades world wide.
14. Israeli citizens (Arab and Jew) FIRST..then USA Jews
Moshe Israel ,   Tivon   (04.06.19)
The article makes a point BUT ignores some facts!
A PM always has 1st priority to Israeli citizens, then: a wise PM would try to accommodate USA Jews or make every effort to explain his policy.

Israeli citizens includes every type of religious, and non religious people, Israeli Arabs and Israeli Jews.
15. Most American Jews are just nominal Jews,they reject Torah
ٌRafi Ben Meir ,   Beer Sheeva   (04.06.19)
16. When a Jew calls Torah a barbarian book,he is no longer aJew
Itaik Itsik ,   Tel Aviv   (04.06.19)
So what binds together with American Jews?
17. OK, here's the deal...
Adele Franklin ,   Haifa   (04.06.19)
Not all liberal Jews in the US are anti-Israel. You'd be surprised how many of them are hardcore Zionist. Stop wailing at them and start slamming the Orthodox in Israel. If you let the Orthodox have their way, millions of Diaspora Jews will be dead before they have a chance to hop on a plane to get here.

And here's one Jew who's been trying to get here since 2009...

https://reubencullen1958.wixsite.com/aboutlastnight
18. title
Maorah ,   Bricktown   (04.06.19)
As a conservative women who has had Torah aliyah and given them, I strongly believe that some things should not be touched. The mixed side should never have been approved.
19. Alienation
L Mayor ,   Penllyn   (04.06.19)
As a Jewish American, what most alienates me is the Israeli left wing media, including YNet.
20. Just another lelft wing biased article
Shep Fargotstein ,   Memphis   (04.06.19)
I am an American Reform Jew who is a politcally conservative Zionist supporter of Israel I do not agree with the URJ or other American Jewish left Wing organizations that think their sensitivities must be considered over that of the Israeli voter. Israelis live under a real threat. If American Jews want to give money to Israel because they want to support the country, that does not give them the right to think they are owed anything.
21. AMERICAN LEFTY JEWS ARE NO FRIENDS OF ISRAEL
oleg ,   florida   (04.06.19)
AMERICAN JEWS CARE ONLY ABOUT THEMSELVES AND THEIR MONEY. AND PLACE IN THE AMERICAN SOCIETY. THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT ISRAEL.THEY DON'T GET MUCH UPSET WHEN ISRAELI SOLDIERS ARE LOST. I RATHER TAKE COMFORT AND SUPPORT FROM THE AMERICAN RIGHT AND THE BIBLE BELT WHO SUPPORT ISRAEL WITHOUT QUESTION. AMERICAN JEWS ARE WEAK AND SUPPORT STUPID CAUSES THAT BENEFIT THE JEWS RACE.
22. DON'T CRY FOR SPILLED MILK. AMERICAN JEWS LOVE ONLY $$$$$$
OLEG ,   florida   (04.06.19)
AMERICAN JEWS NEED ISRAEL MORE THAN ISRAEL NEEDS THEM. WE CAN SURVIVE WITHOUT THEM.
23. I LIVE IN AMERICA 48 YEARS. I HAVE NO AMERICAN JEW FRIENDS.!
Oleg ,   florida   (04.06.19)
I HAVE JEWISH FRIENDS FROM SOUTH AMERICA AND SOME FROM CANADA. BUT FROM THE USA NONE.THEY THINK THEY KNOW IT ALL. THEY DISRESPECT ISRAELIS WITH THEIR STUPID COMMENTS. THEY ARE ALWAYS FEARFUL AND WALK ON EGG SHELLS THEY ARE CHEAP AND HARD TO GET ALONG WITH THEM. ALMOST 75% NEVER VISITED ISRAEL.AND SOME OF THEM BLAME ISRAEL FOR ALL THE ILLS OF THE WORLD. I THINK ITS JEALOUSY OF ISRAEL. I ALWAYS STAND WITH ISRAEL WHEN THOSE JEWS BARK.
24. ISRAEL ALIENATING US JEWRY
MR CYNIC ,   SAFED CYNIC HOUSE   (04.06.19)
Israel is alienating the whole world, so why should US Jewry be any different ? and US Jewry should understand that their modern progressive " values " are very different from actual Torah values. The Torah condemns homosexuality and does not encourage men and women to pray together, if US Jews dislike that ,too bad .
25. BS piled high
larry ,   LA (formally)   (04.06.19)
The non religious in the US really care little for Israel. There are reform who believe they are Americans first and Jews second and really have no love for Israel.

The non affiliated Jews are really into becoming goyim. They mate with goyim and do not identify as Jews. Just liberals.....

Those who follow Israel closely are the traditional and orthodox of the various groups.....
26. Reform Conservative Movements Toxic
FalseStatistics ,   Jerusalem   (04.06.19)
Their white elephant “ Temples” are empty and closing the only string Jewish Community in the US is Orthodox Reform at most has 700,000 members on its books with only 4% active members so stop trying to deceive Israelis with “ majority” of “ US Jews “ majority of US jews” ran not walked away from any form of Judaism just as did most “ Tel Aviv Jews “ today’s election is about the Jewish character of Israel Religious Jews VS Atheistic Post Zionist /Post
“ Israelis” an ancient struggle that will be won by the believing Jew
27. American Jews vote predominantly Dems, do you need more
(04.06.19)
proof of "alienation' from the Jewish narrative/cause?
Never mind the Mickey Mouse variations of Judaism they so dearly espouse...
Well: they are convinced they live in Land of the Free, so they should feel secure (poor, naive sobs)
28. Obviously we're living separate lives and there's no need to
(04.06.19)
lie about it!
29. US Jews!? Hahahaha
Phoenix   (04.06.19)
85% of American “Jews” are not really jews. Do not belong to our people or faith! They are annoying goyim dressed as Jews.
The real Jews have no problems in Israel cause they belong but the wannabes will never belong!
30. CONVERSIONS
LARRY LISS ,   USA   (04.06.19)
go ahead let the mullas a fake sect formed 300 years ago in poland suck from israel and give nothing your non ultra orthodox are the ones who take a weapon and fight for Israel in time of war
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