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'Jewish by DNA' is rabbinical courts' latest tool
Kobi Nachshoni
Published: 17.07.19, 13:53
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1. End the Rabbinute
steve ,   Kfar Saba   (07.17.19)
Avigdor Liberman called the practice outrageous discrimination and racist adding this practice is used on a specific group of immigrants. I think it is time to end the suffocation of our country by the mostly Haredi Rabbis. I think we need to have SANE religious voices that care about ALL the people of our country. SANE religious involvement and not this crazed self-interested and racist group of so-called Rabbis that control our religious way of life: marriage, divorce, and conversion. Besides child-stealing that appears to have been going on in some segment of this same community.
2. So Jews are a Race?? If so why is Jew hatred institutional?
(07.17.19)
3. DNA as proof?
manic drummer ,   Haifa   (07.17.19)
Only the Orthodox could propose something this stupid. When you're talking Judaism, you're talking faith, which is not genetic. My family, which is from Wisconsin, is racially Caucasian, yet we've been Jewish for more than six generations. No one in the whole family tree even remotely resembles the Stereotypical Jewish appearance (i.e. dark hair, dark eyes, hook nose).

Everyone immigrating to Israel must only show proof that they're Jewish, such as a birth certificate or certificate of conversion.
4. But DNA proof is not excepted in case of fatherhood...
Tevye ,   Chelm   (07.17.19)
Funny that the Rabbinical court uses DNA proof in this case, but does not accept DNA proof in cases where a man suspects his wife is an adulteress and a child is not his child.... ( which would make the child a bastard...)
5. Who is a Jew?
Paqid Yirmeyahu ,   Ra'anana   (07.17.19)
Jews are defined by their love for ha-Sheim, the Omni-SCIENT Creator-Singularity of our universe, for molding their life-practice to His Tanakh “Life Instruction Manual” and for an Am Ekhad that includes the non-Orthodox Jews of the world--most certainly NOT by Dark Ages DNA-racist, hate-mongering, xenophobic, Ultra-Orthodox supremacists.
6. Sochnut requires Tuedat Yahdut from a Rabbi who knows you.
NYC   (07.17.19)
This is a basic requirement for all applications for permanent residency. This excludes all secular Jews to enter what was a country based on socialist ideals.
7. Well done! Do it with all the Olin
Phoenix   (07.17.19)
Most Russians that arrived in the last 20 years are Christians pretending to be Jews.
We must not forget the fake Jews from America. All those converted by no halakhic pseudo Jewish sects in America
8. There is nothing wrong with it
Bar Star ,   Haifa   (07.17.19)
All olim should have DNA test done before making aliyah.
The Reform religion in the US and Lieberman's party will be upset because half of their membership are not Jewish.
9. ' Jewish by BMA ' ??
MR DYSLEXIC ,   SAFED CYNIC HOUSE   (07.17.19)
10. DNA
LARRY LISS   (07.17.19)
NOW THE HIGH SELF APPOINTED JEWISH MULLAS ARE READY TO USE MODERN METHODS OK FINE ANY ONE IN THE WORLD WITH A 70% JEWISH DNA SHOULD BE GRANTED CITIZENSHIP IN ONE YEAR SKIP THE ONE PARENT REQUIREMENT THEN THE HASSIDS WILL BE REDUCED TO 2 % OF THE POPULATION LESS POWER AS IT SHOULD BE
11. Trumpification
HERMAN ROSEN ,   HOLLAND   (07.17.19)
The Donald Trumps of Israel aka the Rabbinate..Will the Rabbis
begin roundups of Israelis from Russia and give them DNA tests
to find out if they are really Jewish...Do they realize that a DNA test
cannot tell whether one is really Jewish or not? Of course not ..their
scientific education ends with the burning bush in Genisis...In fact
their education is a zero ..and their value to Israeli society
is also zero...only their birth rate is astronomical
12. dna and russian s
harvey gefen ,   toronto canada.   (07.17.19)
the religious ignore that every person after abraham was a convert to judaism as are all of us.they do not assert that negates our jewishness but only the russians in this case.--our king david and the messiah that comes from his blood is 1/2 moabite (ruth) a supremely esteemed woman and 1/2 jewish from the fathers side.--ruth , and king david and the messiah would not pass the tests to be jewish as invented by the orthodox including the dna one.---the rt. to be jewish toraically is personal choice not confirmed by a dna test.
13. No One Knows What The DNA Of Abraham Was
World Citizen ,   the world   (07.17.19)
Truth be known modern Israelis may not have any related DNA to Abraham or any of the Hebrews of old. So who is to say what a Jew is? The whole idea of being a DNA Jew is ridiculous to the world. We just laugh when we read this nonsense.


14. JEWISH BY DNA?
דניאל ,   USA   (07.18.19)
Now don't that beat all, by that logic, we spanish jews with 40 to 80 percent iberian DNA have always believed we are the decendents of the exiles who came to spain after the destruction of the second temple. So should we then say all those german and polish jews that mixed with german goyim are not really jews. Those called Azkenazis chabadnicks that are extremly white with little noses and straight black hair. I am certain those from the mediteranian were darker with more pronounced features. And by which group would they use as a benchmark? Sounds like what germans did when using suedo science and what about converts 500 years ago. many were hagoyim. Hell King Davids mom was a convert so is it her Dna after hmmm. so many unanswered questions. Many Rabbis in Israel are Morocaan, yemen, iraqi. are they using Arab dna? get the point.
15. Guessing you wear a kippah or......
Eliyahu   (07.20.19)
...defer to the rabbits on your jew-ish religion.
16. Jewish DNA prophecied
Elad ,   Edson   (07.20.19)
Yeshua talked about DNA testing of the worlds populations, searching for the lost relatives of Jacob during his conversations with his disciples 2000 years ago! Amazing! He said that during the last days, the wheat(Jacobites) would be separated from the weeds(Gentiles) and the wheat brought to the grainary(Israel) for safety sake. And you Jews still doubt he's your Messiah. Shame!
17. I'm puzzled to no end
MSP   (07.20.19)
Much too much authority in the hands of a huge group who insist on having their lives underwritten financially by the majority of hard working Jews while insisting on having the authority to control despite refusing military service makes Israel into a grifters paradise. Time to insist on reason and better behavior towards one another accompanied with an honorable life of commitment and courage. Why do we give so much power to the rabbinical Jews who won't even pick up a hand to help defend the nation and the people while insisting on controlling everyone's lives? I just don't get it.
18. Socialized medicine, welfare, pensions
Bar Star ,   Haifa, Israel   (07.21.19)
Israel has all of the above. Thousands of Russian and Ukrainian and other Gentiles come here with the fake docs to benefit from it. It cost a fortune for Israeli taxpayers to take care of them. We are the most taxed nation in the world. How much money do-gooders who think that Israel should take everybody contributed to Israel lately?
19. So what?
(07.22.19)
If you are not sure that they are 100% Jewish, because of some paperwork, let them undergo a quick, formal conversion process, just to be on the safe side. Problem solved! Especially, if they have been living the Jewish way for generations! They know the Jewish ways, keep the holidays, speak Hebrew, believe in G-od, so what is your problem? Is somebody at the Chief Rabbinate concerned that there are too many Jews in Israel? I am sure that HaShem has a special place in hell for those rabbis.
20. @World Citizen
Elisheva Rose Karo   (07.25.19)
It does not invalidate my argument in the least.
Our DNA matches ancient Israelite DNA. Abraham, as you know, was not from Israel.
21. Paqid Yirmeyahu
Elisheva Karo ,   Las Vegas   (07.25.19)
As I stated previously and will reiterate again for your benefit Paqid, I am a Jewish woman according to HALACHA.
Actually, my top matches are Jews from various areas of the world. In my top 20 matches are not only Jews but Druze and yes, the so-called "Palestinians".
Actually, my MTDNA originates in the Middle East as well.
You clearly know absolutely nothing regarding DNA, including Jewish DNA. Please educate yourself before you sound even more foolish then you already do!
22. Paqid
Elisheva Rose Karo   (07.26.19)
I am not willing to spend my precious time educating you. Do it yourself.

My top world matches are Turkish & Ashkenazi Jews, followed by Sephardic & Italian Jews. I closely match Morrocan, Syrian, French etc. Jews as well.

My husband comes a family who has a history in Saana of being heads of the Rabbinical Court ( Al-Kari Hebrew Yemenite, Al- Gari Yemenite)

Something is clearly off with you and I am not willing to continue this stupidity any further.

Done.
23. DNA
Ora   (07.29.19)
The Rabinate denies asking for DNA to control the Jewishness of people
The DNA can t be a proof that it is from the mother s side In consequence it is not proof of the candidate s Jewishness
So i belief the Rabinate s denial
Those stories seem to be blood label against the Rabinate
24. 90% of israeli "rabbies" are corrupted SOB & criminals
TheWall   (11.26.19)
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