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British Muslim group declares new jihad
Yaakov Lappin
Published: 19.10.05, 18:15
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1. now this is sick...
Yakir ,   Switzerland   (10.19.05)
just sick sick sick... and stupid... this is why i put all muslims in the same pot. because every muslim is responsible his culture's developement... and if they just watch they're own people talking and acting like this, and dont do anything about it... they are ALL the same.
2. Jihad =personal struggle, islam=religion of peace
AK   (10.19.05)
Islam does not tolerate terror, those "modrate" muslims keep telling us over and over again, so all this MUST be Mossad diversion. Right?
3. Know Who from Spelthorne, U.K.
where is you U   (10.19.05)
hiding .......................... no doubt
4. Ridiculous Headline
Daniel ,   Yerushalayim   (10.19.05)
"New Jihad Declared In Britain." Please. These are just postings in an internet chat room from anonymous nuts. As for Yakir, who thinks all Muslims are the same, that's just racist nonsense, the same as saying all Jews are genovim. Just plain stupid.
5. Britain asked for this
MARK ,   USA   (10.19.05)
Britain allowed militant Muslims into their country and lets them preach hatred. What do you expect? love and peace. Britain you caused your own problems and please do not blame Israel for this. I know you will somehow someway. That is how you always behave. Scapegoating the Jews or Israel Before 1948 it was the Jews Now you are so politically correct and liberal , you do not bash Jews. You bash Israel. Look at the BBC. It always bashes Israel and reports false erroneous stories.
6. BirishMuslims in the UK
Jeff ,   Gulfport, USA   (10.19.05)
British Muslim group declares new jihad. That program the Muslims used is called Paltalk www.paltalk.com. I suggest we all write to them.
7. This is what we get for allowing them to live among us
****   (10.19.05)
Shame on all Muslims who stand by and allow this crap to flow from the mouths of their fellow Muslims. Ship EVERY SINGLE MUSLIM BACK TO HIS HOME. They are unwilling to want to live in peace with different cultures, different values, and different religions. Our children are at risk as well. They will not care if children are killed and may god have mercy on all of us if we allow them to kill our children. America didn't bring this on, England didn't bring this on, Islam brought this on. Wake up people.
8. There are a LOT of bad eggs in the Islamic World
David Landman ,   Natick, USA   (10.19.05)
Unfortuntely, this is not the exception in the Islamic world. I wouldnt consider the millions of Muslims who feel like this to be a small number, but I would consider the majority of Muslims to not be like this. Most of the Muslims and Arabs I have known are not like this, of course, they havent been educated at Saudi schools of hate. What I want to know is when are so called moderate Muslims going to take matters in their own hands to defeat these Islamist monsters? This isnt only on the web? its in Saudi Schools of hate, Palestinian media incitement propaganda? Even in liberal US news. I am sometimes ashamed to be living in Massachusetts with so many educated idiots around here. I needs proof that there is an active moderate majority. I dont see it.
9. Deport all Muslims now!
Daisy ,   USA   (10.19.05)
10. Proof that islam is a violent cult. We all know that
Bunnie Meyer ,   Santa Monica, CA   (10.20.05)
muslim men think women are worthess except for cooking and sex. A freak that calls itself an imam thinks it is OK to kill 20 women and children to kill one non-muslim man. A violent cult does not a religion make.
11. True nature of Islam
Ben ,   USA   (10.20.05)
Islam sanctifies terrorism in 4 Quranic ayats: 1.51, 8.12 "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who have disbelieved...", 33.26 and 59.2. In Sahih Bukhari 4.52.220, Muhammad braggs about it: "I have been made victorious wotj terror(cast into the hearts of the enemy)...". Surah 8.67 sanctifies genocide and taking hostages for profit. 8.39 & 9.29 declare pepetual war against Pagans & "people of the book" respectively. You can find the details in my flyer: "Is Islam Peaceful?" at http://www.geocities.com/crusadersarmory/ .
12. TRAINING TERRORISTS-PEACE AGREEMENTS OF ETERNAL TERROR & WAR
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (10.20.05)
The peace process of death and war. In the never-ending religious terror war against Jews, terrorists receive highly specialized training from the CIA and Britain. Every single one of the Palestinian Authority security services are involved in terrorist attacks against Israel. There were no apologies from the U.S. for the many Jewish deaths and great suffering perpetrated by U.S. trained Khaled Abu Nijmeh. There was no financial compensation for Khaled's many Jewish victims. There was no punishment for serial killer of Jews, Khaled. Khaled, and other terrorists were richly rewarded with long vacations in Europe. Below are parts of an article from www.sfgate.com http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/02/14/MNG50BANBE1.DTL Mideast training program backfires Palestinian security officers schooled by U.S. later used tactics against Israel - Matthew Kalman, Chronicle Foreign Service Monday, February 14, 2005 Bethlehem, West Bank -- In June 1998, somewhere near CIA headquarters in Langley, Va., two rows of men in military fatigues posed for their graduation photo. All of them were officers in Palestinian General Intelligence Service, charged with hunting down terrorists and preventing attacks on Israel. They had just completed a training course, paid for by the U.S. government, in which they learned firearms and counterterrorist tactics. But the graduation photo holds a stark warning for the Bush administration as it gets more involved in Middle East peacemaking. Some of the men in the picture later swapped sides and began using the skills they learned in Virginia against the Israelis. Such training courses, which were suspended with the outbreak of the Palestinian uprising in September 2000, will be an integral part of Washington's aid package for the new government of Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas. Standing in the back row, second from the left, is Khaled Abu Nijmeh, from Deheisheh refugee camp in Bethlehem, according to two of his colleagues who are also pictured. By 2001, he had become one of the most-wanted Palestinian militants in the city, suspected of involvement in a string of suicide bombings and shooting attacks against Israelis. In May 2002, he was one of 13 gunmen escorted from the Church of the Nativity siege in Bethlehem, flown to Cyprus and then to exile in Europe. Three of the group, including Abu Nijmeh, were given asylum in Italy. "I am a member of the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades and a first sergeant in Palestinian General Intelligence," Abu Nijmeh, now 36, told The Chronicle from his temporary home in Rome. "I personally received a course in antiterrorism and VIP protection. "I was not alone. Many Palestinian security people were trained by the Americans. We hope they will continue helping us." Abu Nijmeh and his 12 comrades will be allowed to return to Bethlehem under the cease-fire agreement reached last week between Israel and the Palestinians. As Israeli commentators had been warning for years, the CIA inadvertently helped train future adversaries -- as it has done in other countries, including the anti-Soviet forces in Afghanistan who ended up as Taliban and al Qaeda militants. "This has proven to be a very risky undertaking," said Israeli political analyst Gerald Steinberg of Bar-Ilan University. "Both the CIA and British efforts to train Palestinians during the Oslo process helped strengthen terrorist capabilities." The training given to hundreds of Palestinian security officials between 1996 and 2000 was sanctioned by a presidential order in 1996 by then-President Bill Clinton, who was deeply involved in peace-making efforts." ©2005 San Francisco Chronicle Islamic terrorism is empowered, and our loyal ally, Israel, on the front lines fighting global jihad, is wickedly betrayed.
14. Homicide Bombers
H.L. Tobin ,   Barnet U.K.   (10.20.05)
What can we expect in the U.K. when people like Livingstone,Galloway et al refuse to condem terrorism. even the so called moderate muslims in this country,who condem these acts here ,all agree that when it happens in Israel it`s justified. Unfortuantely the left wing element agree with them. They don`t appear to realise this will encourage them to carry out their murdurous attacks anywhere in the world.
15. Reply to Daniel
albion ,   Leicester England   (10.20.05)
Daniel, Islam is not a race. Muslim is not a race. You should not call people racist without absolute proof. Whilst fully accepting that there are indeed moderate Muslims, Islam & its central Tenets (Quran, Sunnah, Hadith) are not. More info from www.jihadwatch.org. Please, get your self an education - its a matter of some urgency that misinformed people such as yourself get to know the truth asap. Best regards. Albion
16. Reply to Mark
albion ,   Leicester England   (10.20.05)
Greetings Mark, Please, do not confuse Al BBCeera with the British Public - particularly the English. We have long memories & know who our true friends are - the USA. Israel has suffered the "lesser" Jihad for longer than the West -we in the West could & should learn all we can from Israels experience of dealing with Islamic Fascism. PC Liberals are on the run in the UK since 7/7 - we the people are finding out the truth for ourselves & are not, I repeat not, believing the lies, ommissions & bias of the BBC (herein to be known as AlBBCeera) Take care. Best regards Albion
17. incompatible
steve ,   australia   (10.20.05)
this proves that islam and the all non muslim nations are incompatible. there is no need to accept islamic people. there are over 50 islamic nations and they are welcome there, where the culture and religion will not conflict. only peoples with similar cultures and ideologies should be allowed into our nations. islams doctrine itself specifies that it cannot live with us in harmony.
18. Misconception About my Religion
salim ,   Auckland,New Zealand   (10.20.05)
It is very sad to see the amount of misconception non muslim have against Islam. I insist every non muslim friend to go and talk to muslim people or visit local mosque, about their faith rather than sticking on the internet and getting total wrong impression. Media is portraying totally unacceptable messages which in no way reflect true islam. This article is one of the many example's available on the internet.
19. To salim
Yakir ,   Switzerland   (10.20.05)
hi salim. of course, i know what u mean, but lets talk fact. how come the muslim countries dont do anything about the radical-muslims? if even YOU are not ashamed by what they are doing on this world, then you are the same. and lets see it in the big picture. did any muslim-country do anything (help) stopping terror? no! please explain it to me... why does every single arab(muslim) nation give a shit about their own people making terror and killing innocent people? salim, we israelis, and all the rest want only peace and nothing but peace. but if u look back in history and today, the only real war that still is ongoing is because of muslims. they just dont get right with the rest, there is ZERO tollerance for other religions and their way of living. its a real shame salim... a real shame!
20. Salim of New Zealand
velvel of atlanta ,   atlanta, ga   (10.20.05)
One of the dangers of being silent is that you may get co-opted by persons who say that they speak for you when truly they speak only for themselves. When the teevee showed Palestinians cheering when the planes killed thousands on September 11 and no one from the Islamic community loudly condemned them, what impression--other than that rest of the community agreed--or at least acquiescede--should we have concluded? When an Israeli Jew conducts terror, we condemn them. When a Muslim conducts terror--where is your condemnation?
21. British Muslims
Ajay   (10.20.05)
history does repeat itself....Did not the Germans remain silent when the NAZI's were killing the "non ayrans"on their way to grabbing power prior to the srat of WW II
22. to Salim
Guy ,   California   (10.20.05)
Hi Salim, Re-read this news story, and you will see where people are getting their misconceptions. To me these guys are pretty explicitly saying they want to kill a bunch of non-muslims & that they want their religion to dominate the world. The media or anyone else isn't to blame for what they're saying. When a group names itself "Islamic Jihad", and the every time you hear about them is just after an act of murder and terrorism, it assicates the words "Islamic" & "Jihad" with murder & terrorism. Who's fault is that? Is it theirs for naming themselves that & then commiting murder & terrorism, or 'The Media' for reporting what they're doing? Remember, if it bleeds, it leads, so you're never going to hear the story about how the Mosque down the street had a really good Friday sermon this time or how many kids got candy at Eid festival this year, but you're always going to hear about the suicide bomber. I understand why you'd be a bit defensive about this stuff, & I appreciate the advice to talk to muslims to clear up misconceptions about the religion, but the fact of the matter is that people either already have their religion, or aren't particularly interested in any religion, so it's not really what people want to know. People don't mind or care too much what Islam normally teaches, and they don't care who is or isn't Muslim. They do care when they keep hearing stuff from people like the ones in this news article. The key is to not let them set the agenda or your image & to let us know we're all on the same side. Call bullsh*t on these people who have hijacked the religion & very explicitly are threatening all our lives. Anyways, we're all in this together, but that's sort of where we're comin from.
23. British muslims declare new jihad
M. Reeves ,   Chatt, TN   (10.21.05)
British and Europe alike will never stand a chance agaist radical islam because of the infestation of the insane liberalism within!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
24. Giving rights to terrorists
Selesa ,   USA   (10.21.05)
As long as we let them have all these rights and allow them to threaten us and teach their hatred in the Mosques and schools we will not be safe. We must crack down on them now.
25. Muslims in chatrooms
Jules ECM ,   Bradford, England   (10.21.05)
As a regular Paltalk chat user I can tell you without doubt that many muslims there regularly say such comments and some of them call for the return of our soldiers in bodybags! Many of us are fighting back now. This is the worlds last chance to combat islam - the worlds biggest growing threat.
26. Salim
Berber ,   USA   (10.21.05)
It seems that it is you who has a misunderstanding of islam, unless you are simply being desingenious. Unfortunately for you, the qoran is there for all to see. There are passages in the qoran that go beyond fascism. Conquest by terror the basis of islam. In its 15 centuries of existance it has continuously spread by terror. There is nothing new to what is happening today. The burning fires of islam have finally reached the west, thanks to emigrants moslems like you. That's all.
27. Yakir
Berber ,   US   (10.21.05)
All moslems are in the same basket because they all believe in the same evil qoran.
28. #27
Yakir ,   Switzerland   (10.21.05)
I guess so. Every religion strives for peace but the muslims... even back in history, it was always them being the troublemakers. It's their way of life and way of teaching their children, and the old tradition (which is all against humanity) that makes them stay behind. There is no arab nation that've ever done something for the world. Their main money income is their oil, but even with so much money, the still ride on donkeys and get the water from the well. Tell me it's not the tradition which makes them stupid...
29. Muslims
Abdul ,   New York, USA   (10.21.05)
I am ashamed to call myself a Muslim. The terrorists who behead innocent civilians or blow up trains and buses are not true Muslims, but simply terrorists. I no longer consider myself a Muslim and have never been this embaressed and disgusted with my own religion.
30. Foreign War
Jack ,   VA, USA   (10.21.05)
The tone of America's war, is not aggressive enough. We need to start kicking a lot more arab butt if this is really what they're preaching. They don't seem like very reasonable people, but a cruise-missile mght do the trick.
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