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121. Robertson remarks/#113
Claudia Lowry ,   Tampa USA   (01.06.06)
Most of the references to God's wrath in dividing up the lands of Israel are in the Old Testament of the Bible. It has nothing to do with Jesus. God was predicting the end of days as retribution for dividing up His lands, and for those that do not believe in Him, long before He sent His Son to save us from our sins. Many of us are conflicted over these scriptures due to our personal vision of fairness and the teachings of Jesus Christ . He did not repudiate anything regarding the territory of Israel that I am aware of. Still, what political leaders do for short term peace is not one of those subjects addressed, unless someone wants to make something out of the "render unto Caesar what is Caesars', and to God, what is Gods'." Some use that comment to cover a whole lot of stuff. I am sure New Testament scholars will take me to task if this is incorrect! So, I am praying for the health and well-being of Arik Sharon who has shown such devotion to his country and it's people. Obviously his own change of heart came because he wants peace for Israel and has undertaken the path he sees as the way to it. Pat Robertson has actually done more for the State of Israel despite his penchant for shooting off his mouth. No doubt he sees that as his job, but he obviously has no short term goals in mind for Israel, nor do the Orthodox rabbi's there. The word of God is just that no matter how we would like it otherwise. Now if God wants to do something really useful He could strike dead the President of Iran.
122. Pat Robertson's Comments
Ilona Kalyta ,   Kalyta   (01.06.06)
This is very true, God's Holy Words stand, anyone who tries to split the Holy City of Jerusalem, is under God's judgment also. Jesus came to fulfill the Law (The Torah),not to do anyway with it, The Torah, states that the Land of Abraham, Issac and Jacob belongs to the jews, it will always be like this, because our Holy Abba, Adonai ordained this. shalom, Ilona
123. To # 93
Chris ,   Washington State   (01.06.06)
HE Who is coming soon is Yeshua the Messiah, the Creator of the Universe, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob! The One who was and is and is to come. The Way, the Truth and the Life. No one comes to God the Father except through the blood of Yeshua, Jesus Christ. Are you ready?
124. #100 ISLAMIC WAR STRATEGY: DIVIDE & CONQUER!
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (01.06.06)
Islamic war strategy is to create bad feelings and enmity between different groups of people and between different religions! Jews and Bible-believing Christians believe in the Jewish Bible! The most evil men controlled the apostate church. Men possessed with an all-consuming hate for G-D, Jesus, the Bible and G-D's Laws. In their intense hate for G-D, they committed the most horrific, satan-inspired persecution of Jews - G-D's Chosen People. In the name of G-D, they broke G-D's Law: "YOU SHALL NOT MURDER" Murders, pogroms, Crusades, Inquisitions, blood libels, Deportations; the stealing of Jewish land and assets... G-D's punishments upon these G-D haters will be terrifying! Man's kingdom of violence and idol worship of power and control will end. No power on earth can stop the Bible promise, Isaiah 2: "the law will go forth from Zion and the word of the L-RD from Jerusalem... And they will hammer their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, and never again will they learn war...
125. GOD: Would you people shut up?
Steve ,   Delaware   (01.06.06)
126. 113 Posts ? Robertson must be a real idiot then ...
hiram ,   tel aviv   (01.06.06)
To trigger so much polemics ! The sad part is that Pat is EXTREMELY RICH......and has built a part of his fortune on american gullibility..... This has to show that the more bullshit Yankees are fed with , the happier they are .....and the happier they are the less they feel concerned about their own serious internal affairs... Tragic ! What an idiot !
127. Where was Robertson when Bush slashed
Jerome ,   Israel   (01.06.06)
the embassy act not one but 3 times. Matter of fact Bush NEVER once stated JERUSALEM IS THE UNDIVIDED CAPTIAL OF ISRAEL. HMM! FURTHEMORE, Bush barely calls Israel , Israel but the Holy Land. Wonder why? Also, do a search and see what Prince Faud of Saudi Arabia had to say the second time Bush chopped the embassy act. Have to wonder who Bush did this for. Furthermore, the reason for not placing the American Embassy where it rightly belongs is 'national security.' Strange, Israel is the only country on the planet who has relations with the US who does not have an embassy in her rightful capital. One step further, there are American Embassies in some of the most dangerous capitals on the planet. See folks, it is George Bush who is most interested in dividing the capital of Israel. Makes sense because otherwise he would have passed the embassy act. So folks, Robertson and the rest of you nitwits who are preaching to Israel like we are shit to you amd who are only good for your 'end days sanario' are preaching to the absolute wrong people. Understand? Go bark at the Pope and Bush.
128. Robertson is a great man, however...
Nick Byram ,   Sacramento, CA USA   (01.06.06)
...statements like this just make him silly. Open mouth and insert foot, Pat-- AGAIN. :-(
129. The Christian Right must pay for all Jewish aliyahs
MARK ,   USA   (01.06.06)
I agree with Pat. Solution more Jews have to go to Israel. The Christians must pay for all of it. The Evangelicals are Righteous Gentiles and now they can send all American Jews to Israel. Pat, more Jews will go to Israel but we want luxury apartments on the coast of Israel and a guarranteed annuity income for life. Pat, what will you offer me? We are the chosen people so we deserve to live in luxury even if it means selling CBN and the 700 club just to help the Jews. If you do this I will know you are the best friends that the Jewish people have in this world. God will bless you because you will have blessed us. Read your bible and this will happen.
130. False prophet Pat
Barbara   (01.06.06)
Dear Israelis, please don't credit anything the buffoon Pat says. Notwithstanding his high profile, most American evangelical Christians know what a goofy fraud and money preacher he is. Google his name to read all about his shady business deals and long history of outrageous comments if you don't believe me. More importantly, all the best to PM Sharon and the Israelis during these trying times.
131. The Bible identifies such fools
Jim ,   USA   (01.06.06)
But these, like natural brute beasts made to be caught and destroyed, speak evil of the things they do not understand and will utterly perish in their own corruption.......2 Peter 2:12
132. May the Lord be merciful
Jim ,   Iowa - USA   (01.06.06)
"But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgement." "For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned." Matthew 12:36-37 Every word and comment here has been recorded and cataloged for that "day". Some will be justified and many will be condemned. May the Lord be merciful.
133. Revealing the False Doctrine of Pat Robertson
Pastor Billy Bob Jon ,   Washington DC   (01.06.06)
Just because someone names the name of Christ does not make them a Christian. No Pope - No Preacher - and surely NOT Pat Robertson can change the biblical truth of Salvation based on New Covenant teachings. Pat Robertson promotes a gospel of Christ plus - when in reality it is Christ and Christ only and no other mediator or work to save you. Scripture References: 2 Timothy 2:5 For there is one G-d and one Mediator between God and Men, the Man Christ Jesus. Romans 10:8-10 But what does it? "The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart" (that is, the word of faith which we preach): that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that G-d has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. Galatians 3:1-3 O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you that you should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed among you as crucified? This I only want to learn from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? Are you so foolish? Having begun in the Spirit, are you now being made perfect by the flesh? Galatians 3:5-7 Therefore He who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you, does He do it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? - just as Abraham "believed G-d, and it was accounted to him for righteousness." Therefore know that only those who are of faith are sons of Abraham. Ephesians 2:8-10 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of G-d, not of works, lest anyone should boast. For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them. Philippians 1:6 being confident of this very thing, that He who has begun a good work in you will complete it until the day of Jesus Christ; Colossians 1:12-14 giving thanks to the Father who has qualified us to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light. He has delivered us from the power of darkness and conveyed us into the kingdom of the Son of His love, in whom we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins. Hebrews 4:14-16 Seeing then that we have a High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of G-d, lest us hold fast our confession. For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin. Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need. James 1:13 Let no one say when he is tempted, "I am tempted by G-d"; for G-d cannot be tempted by evil, nor does He Himself tempt anyone. James 1:16-18 Do not be deceived, my beloved brethren. Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and comes down from the father of lights, with whom there is no variation or shawdow of turning. Of His own will He brought us forth by the word of truth, that we might be a kind of firstfruits of His creatures. I can continue with scriptures upon scriptures, but according to the word two or three witnesses is all it takes. Forget what pat Robertson says. Learn the truth that salvation is a gift given strictly to whom the Father sees fit. Pat Robertson is not a messenger of G-d but simply a person that has profited financially from the misery of others and through trickery of scamming. The amazing thing is that during the leadership rein of men like Pat Robertson and James Dobson, the only people that benefited from their instruction is themselves. Christaindom has been duped by Pat Robertson and men promoting the freudian gospel such as James Dobson.
134. Mr. Robertson Tells it Like it Really Is
Ramona ,   Germany   (01.06.06)
Mr. Robertson, regardless to what your critics say, stay strong and continue to speak out in truth according to the Word of G_d. It is proclaimed in the Scriptures that G_d is in enmity against those who divide His land. Whether the athetists or those who are accustomed to having their ears tinkled by what , liberal preachers spread, does not change G_d's world not one jot or tittle. Therefore, I will continue to pray for you ( Mr. Robertson) that you do not faint while doing what is correct in G_d's eyes according to His Holy Scriptures. I will also pray for those, Jews and Gentiles who do not know or will not accept the truth according to G_d's word. One last recommendation for all the critics of Mr. Robertson: Don't just read the Bible (all 66 books), but study to show your selves approved before you criticize a messager of G_d. I challenge you all to review the Old Covenant scriptures that describes what befell those that harshly criticized G_d's messengers. And, lastly, me Robetson also spoke out against the U.S. pressuring Israel to give up the Gaza Strip. Don't forget Katrina and the other devasting hurricanes that hit the U.S. Gulf coast. G_d's word will not return to Him void. He will not be mocked!
135. The Bible also says
Jim Jackson ,   Valdosta   (01.06.06)
The Bible also says that Sampson took the jaw bone of an ass and slew a thousand warrers.... Those of you that belive such things need to think as well as read.... how do you kill someone with the jaw bone of an ass? How would you hold the jaw bone of an ass to strik someone with any force? The jaw bone of an ass is not large nor has much mass. It is not much of a weapon. The Bible is full of such tall tails.
136. #119 - Werner
herbert ,   NY, USA   (01.06.06)
Werner - People are upset with Pat Robertson becuase he twists Scripture to fit his worldview. He holds himself out as a prophet and diviner of G-D's intentions - this is pure witchcraft and offensive to many people. So you shouldn't be surprised. His simplistic statements show either a lack of knowledge of the history and language of the Bible (as opposed to the English translation which is not perfect) or a deliberate attempt to use the words of the Bible for his own means. Pretending to know exactly why G-D does something or allows something to happen is hubris and should almost always be condemned as false prophecy. His particular statement about G-D's displeasure witht the Gaza withdrawal also makes G-D out to be a patsy of interests other than His Own - i.e., if G-D didn't want the Gaza withdrawal, He could have incapacitated Mr. Sharon earlier, He could have caused Mr. Netanyahu to be in power earlier or He could have caused all of the Palestinians to volutarily leave the area or convert to Judaism. The punishment after the fact shows a weak and ineffectual god, not an omnicient and all-powerful G-D. So, just his interpretation of G-D's intent is offensive to those who believe that G-D does not always reveal His intentions to humankind - and certainly not only to Pat Robertson.
137. Pat Robertson
Vic Robinson ,   Danville, VA USA   (01.06.06)
The man needs to shut up. How many times is he going to stick his foot in his mouth and then apologize?
138. Free speech is what you pay for it
Joseph ,   Hazleton, USA   (01.06.06)
It is unfortunate that in a free society it is often those who have the most outrageous things to say who get the attention, and not those who say things that may actually be meaningful. It is also sad and pathetic that Pat Robertson, like our President, seems to believe that only his view of the world is what God wants; not the kind of attitude one might hope for from a country who is trying to promote freedom - and an open society that can exist peacefully amongst each other. In the past, Robertson has said that fires in Florida were God's punishment for a gay pride rally (although all of the people affected by the tragedy were elderly heterosexuals - many quite Christian) and that New Orleans was washed out because it was a city filled with sin - although the French Quarter was the one part of town least affected. His recent remarks advocating the assasination of foreign leaders have hopefully revealed this sad man to be a lunatic who speaks only for himself, not America. Please, World, forgive us - we must allow him freedom to say what he wants even when it is unforgivable. Prime Minister Sharon has the sympathies and the prayers of many more Americans who are not gullible enough to be viewers of Robertson's twisted pronouncements.
139. An Axis of Hate
Mike ,   Columbus, Ohio   (01.06.06)
For a man who states he is man of God Robertson demonstrates hate and self indulgance. I look forward to the day that Pat Robertson is judged and sent to burn in Hell.
140. The God of Israel & His Land.
Doug ,   Tredegar, UK   (01.06.06)
As a Christian I have a love for the Jewish people and the land of Israel that words cannot adequately describe. The hostility and allegations voiced here by some against Christians have no foundation in reality. Whether Sharon`s medical condition is a judgment from G-d it is not for me to say. I can but pray for Arik`s full recovery and that his eyes be opened to the truth of G-d`s Word. The Hebrew/Christian Scriptures are explicit in relation to the consequences of what they describe as the dividing up of G-d`s Land, which He has given to the Jewish people as an everlasting inheritance. "The land shall not be sold permanently, for the land is Mine..." (Leviticus 25; v23) (Zechariah 14; v3-5) & (Joel 3; v1-2) to mention a few. If the Lord G-d of Israel is who He says He is, and His Word is what it says it is, then surely He needs to be listened to as the ultimate authority and not politicians with their own agenda. Thank you for listening. G-d bless you all.
141. Pat Robertson Comments and white house reaction
CHRIS ,   WALES   (01.06.06)
I Feel that Pat made a Really Important Comments if Taken in it Rightful Context. All he did was point out what The Prophetic Words Warning is to All who Try and Divide or Interfere with the Boundaries of Israel. Mr Bush Himself is also Guilty of this.He calls Himself a Christian,yet he has Pushed Israel into a Defenceless Borders. and Further more,playing into Israel's Enemies. Mr Sharon Does not Know the Prophetic Words,So he Looks for a Humanistic Resolution. but this will not Work. the Word of God Reminds us time and time again that God will Judge the Leaders,Nations,Peoples etc,,who Devide up Judea and Samaria including Jerusalem. Zech12 Joel3:2 and many more. As a Christian,i Saw the Hand of God Removed After the Pull out From Gaza,Immediatelly,New Orleans Got Devestated. this has Occured Since the start of the Madrid Conference. and America Will be Judged soon for Taking the Lead in Dividing God's Covenant land. Bye Friends Chris Wales
142. Pat Robertson and Bush's Reaction
chris ,   wales   (01.06.06)
I Feel that Pat made a Really Important Comments if Taken in it Rightful Context. All he did was point out what The Prophetic Words Warning is to All who Try and Divide or Interfere with the Boundaries of Israel. Mr Bush Himself is also Guilty of this.He calls Himself a Christian,yet he has Pushed Israel into a Defenceless Borders. and Further more,playing into Israel's Enemies. Mr Sharon Does not Know the Prophetic Words,So he Looks for a Humanistic Resolution. but this will not Work. the Word of God Reminds us time and time again that God will Judge the Leaders,Nations,Peoples etc,,who Devide up Judea and Samaria including Jerusalem. Zech12 Joel3:2 and many more. As a Christian,i Saw the Hand of God Removed After the Pull out From Gaza,Immediatelly,New Orleans Got Devestated. this has Occured Since the start of the Madrid Conference. and America Will be Judged soon for Taking the Lead in Dividing God's Covenant land. Bye Friends Chris Wales
143. Sharon, Katrina and Gaza
Mark ,   Seattle   (01.06.06)
Touch the apple of God's eye and the curse happens. Gaza pullout initiated on the ninth of Av (Tisha B' Av) with voluntary evacs. Two weeks later to the day, New Orleans under voluntary evac., etc., etc., etc. Rabin shot two weeks after Rabbi group in Israel places curse on him. Same Rabbi group cursed Sharon recently. So it goes... Truth happens!
144. To #100 Kate in London
Nick Byram ,   Sacramento, CA USA   (01.06.06)
That is totally unfair and uncalled for. While I agree that occassionally Robertson does make ill-considered and foolish pronouncements, he is vehemently in support of Israel and the Jews, and his bona fides on this subject are unquestionable. Please do not respond to Roberston's ill-considered comment with an even MORE ill-considered comment.
145. Let's be fair....
Nick Byram ,   Sacramento, CA USA   (01.06.06)
Now hear this, all Israeli critics of American Christian Conservatives: 1. Robertson, to his credit, did also harshly criticize the Bush Administration for sending "one red cent" In Robertson's own words, of aid to the Palestinigoon "Authority". He has not solely been critical of Sharon's withdrawl only. 2. Robertson was/is a personal friend of Sharon and 90% of Robertson's remarks regarding Mr. Sharon are praiseworthy. While the other 10% are poorly timed and this particular remark was REALLY ill-considered, keep that in mind. 3. Nor are American Conservatives and Christians supporters of Israel solely or even chiefly because of our interpretations of the Good Book. There are far more temporal reasons to support Israel than spiritual ones: --Israel is an outpost of Western Civilization in a region of barbarism. --Israel was a steadfast ally in cold war days. --Our heads are on the Islamic chopping block as much as yours are; you just happen to be further ahead in line. Seriously, Jews / Zionists / Israelis are not just pawns in Robertson's or any other evangelical Christian's cosmology. There is much more to it than that.
146. Pat We need your help Now
MARK ,   USA   (01.06.06)
The media reported that the Evangelicals were going to help the people of Gush Katif by coming to Gaza and making it their residence. They did nothing to help but blamed Sharon. The Evangelicals and Jews are responsible for this disaster. After 2000 years of Christian persecution they and only they must fix it now. Stop blaming Sharon. You have supported Israel and I thank you from the bottom of my heart but you must do much much more. That is a nice start but what are you going to do next. You and only you Evangelicals can perform miracles. I can not wait to see that day. Bless you Pat!
147. NEWSFLASH: GOD is DEAD.
Travis ,   Missouri, USA   (01.06.06)
Religion, especially the three major, related faiths that we deal with today (Christianity, Islam, Judaism), is the number one cause of murder and death IN THE WORLD. It likely outperforms all forms of disease, and is definitely the cause of the greatest number of wars in our history. God is a joke; if he were so good and powerful, why the hell would he set the world up in such a way that people kill each other over their arguments of what he is? God is, at most, a mysterious, maybe unconcious force in our universe which has somehow lead to the creation of everything we have. God is not some holy, blessed, all-loving supernatural being. I can't stand all of this confict anymore. If even HALF of the energy spent on killing each other was spent on actually DEBATING the nature of God and the universe in which we live, just IMAGINE what sort of world we would live in now. This world, and all of the RELIGIONS in it, needs to learn the value of respect. We need to respect each other for their beliefs, not try to enforce our worldview on ohers. I think everyone who believes in ANYTHING too blindly or fanatically will find themselves burning in hell (should one really exist) instead of basking in the light of their god. Why? Because 'God' would in no way condone what you all are doing.
148. Robertson is a Cartoon Character
G. Washington ,   Camden, New Jersey   (01.06.06)
The guy is a joke, a bad one at that. His comments are the kind that give Christians a bad name. Must be nice to be so rich and lost in yourself that you can make idiotic comments and have your mindless flock agree.
149. Killing over Land
Vinny ,   Toronto, Canada   (01.06.06)
Hey Pat, If your god kills people over 'his land', then isn't he like a ...TERRORIST!!!
150. Pastor Billy Bob Jon , TORAH IS ONLY REALITY
DACON9 ,   TORAH IS REALITY   (01.06.06)
YOUR REALITY IS ONE OF ' 5' REALITIES ALL BASED ON MYTHS HERESAY AND LIES. THERE IS ONLY ONE REALITY. CERTAINLY NOT A HERETIC THAT WAS BANNED BY THE JEWS
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