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Robertson: God punished Sharon
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Published: 06.01.06, 00:39
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181. Pats remarkes
Ron Wedlund ,   Canada   (01.07.06)
Pat Robertson is right about dividing Gods land but George Bush is more to blame than Sharon as he is forcing Israel to give away land for a phony peace
182. To post 170
venita ,   quail usa   (01.07.06)
to 170 The jewish people are under the period of time called jacobs trouble. This will last 2000 years. they were scattered over the world till the end of that time. they have had to suffer at the hands of all people and nations during this time and it continues. God will put and end to this one day . He is gathering his people to Israel from all over the world as he stated in his word would happen. we are seeing that now. The countries the muslims are occupying now is land given to the jews as the promise land. They will one day have it back for G-d will intervene in the end to save Israel from the enemy. At this point in time they are there for that reason and the last 1300 years. But they are not the owners of the land. The Jews are. That is scripture. All in G-d's time. It will all come to pass as most prophesy has been fulfilled . G-d is not just tollerating them it is all in his plan. And what a plan he has. The jews and the land goes back thousands of years. Way before the muslims moved in. Not excepting christ was the turning point with G-d. This brought trouble down on the Jews. One day they will see it for that is all in G-ds plan also. And yes Sharon has divided the land that G-d gave back to them for their return to the holy land. That was a miracle in itself. He had no right to give it away. Christians that have studied the older testament know this. It was and insane thing to do . God has ways of moving people out of the way when they listen to someone other than him. Bush is not G-d. He was no longer hearing from G-d.
183. to 177 post
venita ,   quail usa   (01.07.06)
And you will look rediculous when you see the prophesy has come to pass. I have seen to much come to pass to even have the slightest doubt that the rest of the prophesy in his word will not come to pass. Yes, I know That Satan the imitator has the muslims thinking that christ will come back on a cloud to kill the christians and Jews. NOT! !! He will return with his saints to do battle with the enemy of the Jews and Israel In Jerusalem. armegaddon...JUst think about it. Why would he want to kill his own people that he has chosen as his elite. NoT!!! They have been the keeper of his word given to them in the beginning. They are the true followers of the word handed down in the begining to man. The hebrew alphabet was given to them so he could talk to them. God has warned nations of the world that they would be judged according to their treatment of the jewish nation. I am a christian . I was grafted into the kingdom because of their rejection of christ .we have that oportunity and so do they. one day they will see him and know he is the Messiah they are looking for. Muslims, Bin Laden and all have the same chance to serve Christ. But christ will return for the protection of his people the Jews and cleanse the world of all unrighteousness.
184. I think it is very sad...
Joan   (01.07.06)
when people like Pat , forget that Ariel Sharon, gave most of his life to the Jewish people, protecting and defending them.
185. Pat is correct citing what God says in scripture
E ,   USA   (01.07.06)
No one can argue what God says about those who divide His land (Israel). Scripture is very clear about God's attitude toward those who want to divide His land. Scripture is also very clear about what happens to those who harm the Jews. God warns against attacking Israel in Zechariah 12:9 which states that "in that day" meaning some future time, God will destroy those nations that attack Israel. That can only refer to some yet future time. If America joins in attack against Jeruslam and Israel, we will be destroyed.
186. If you love Israel
Cynthia ,   USA   (01.07.06)
This is the time to show your support. It is not the time to preach or dictate to leaders of Israel. More than ever, it is a time to be respectful.
187. Robertson has the reason wrong!
Andrew ,   Virginia   (01.07.06)
If Mr. Robertson's idea of how God operates were correct, then political leaders (and the rest of us) would be smited every time we violated Biblical morality...and then there wouldn't be many political leaders left anyplace. But if we do a thought experiment and assume Robertson is right: what is the action of Mr. Sharon that most obviously divides the land of Israel? The answer's not the Gaza troop withdrawal, but the wall in the West Bank--a physical gash across the landscape. But Mr. Robertson is presumably a political supporter of the construction of the wall, since it is supposed to defend the state of Israel. Thus, Robertson doesn't criticize the obvious division of Israel/Palestine, but only the withdrawal that he disagrees with politically. So much for taking Scripture seriously!
188. Sharon
Khondakar ,   Chicago .USA   (01.07.06)
Sharon is a couragous man. This man has not been appreciated by political pundits or religious fanatics .The whole universe is gods land. Dont didivide it to exploit,oppress, enslave, deprive,or torture human. Unfortunately thats what we do. We the Hindus, Muslim, Jewisfh, Christians, Buddhist,and Atheist.all in th name of Supreme being or human progress. Sometime we dont divide but add for the same ends.
189. 169/170; The "dividing up" of the Land.
Doug ,   Tredegar, UK   (01.07.06)
As also prophesied in Scripture, following the Diaspora many foreign empires occupied the Promised Land but never created a foreign sovereign state in the Land as is the agenda of the international community at this time. It must also be remembered that the whole Jewish nation has not been in exile. A remnant of the Jewish people have always remained in the Land since antiquity. Furthermore, the Scriptures not only signify the rebirth of the State of Israel (May 14 1948) but are also replete with a plethora of divine promises/prophecies surrounding and the regathering of the Jewish people from exile. Indeed, even before the events took place, God ALSO stressed that He would re-gather His people from the ends of the earth, not for their sake but FOR HIS HOLY NAME'S SAKE. The literal fulfilment of the divine promises surrounding the disobedience, dispersal and exile of His people and the divine promises surrounding their return to the Land have been fulfilled to the letter. Those which have yet to be fulfilled are taking shape at the time of writing. The Lord not only promised that Israel would be dispersed, but that they would be preserved in that dispersion as a nation and that in the last days they would be back on their own land in unbelief, and that the whole world would be in siege against them and their capital city, Jerusalem. The last five decades have seen such a world-wide re-gathering of the Jews, the re-estabishment of their nation of Israel and the return of Jerusalem as their capital city. The Scriptures quoted by Pat Robertson apply to anyone and everyone and not just Ariel Sharon. All who are in any way responsible for dividing up the land will be held accountable. The Scriptures are not to be taken in isolation but in the full and entire context of the whole of Scripture and are there for all to read and digest or ultimately reject, as each individual sees fit.
190. Sharon punishment
Fred Badal ,   Pleasanton, USA   (01.08.06)
Robertson's comments are out of order and give ammunition to those who say Christians are irresponsible. Sharon is 77 years old, and when you are 77, you are susceptable to various physical ailments. In fact, many people die before they reach 77. Pat, in the future, perhaps you should have your staff review your comments before they are aired.
191. What God was probably thinking
Allen Michie ,   Williamsburg IA, USA   (01.08.06)
It might also be possible that God was gave Sharon a stroke for being 77, weighing 300 pounds, and having the most stressful job on the planet.
192. The Holy Bible is Right!
Marcos David ,   Santo André-Brazil   (01.08.06)
The Eternal G-d bless your people, ISRAEL.
193. Pat's extremisn is as hateful as Osama's
MQS ,   Missouri, USA   (01.08.06)
The hate filled religious extremisim of Robertson is no less hate filled than that of Bin Laden's vision of the world.
194.  Reply to this Bull shit bMQS , Missouri, USA
chris ,   wales   (01.08.06)
how Dare you Even think of Comparing a Long time Friend of the Jewish State to the Most Hateful man in America? you are Obviously an Extreme Left who Hate christians and Probably Jews also. What is it with you Stupid Morrons,How can you in your right mind even think That Pat Robertson is like Bin laden,or as Threatening? you are so Full of Hate,you Lots on the Left are the most Extreme Minded Group with Plenty to say,but you Hate the Thought of Christians Having the same Freedom of Speech! you are Anti-christian Just Like that Disgusting A.C.L.U. Why Does Pat Bother you so much? the thing is,Whenever the Christians Say anything Almost,you are Shouting them Down and Villifying them. you are a Disgrace to America,and you Behave Like Facist! in fact,you are Facist. you can't tell the Different between Darkness and Light. Blind you are,There are none so Blind than those who will not see. Shame on you! Pat Loved Sharon and Prayed For Him.Did you? Of course not,God is out as far as you Ediots are Concerned. you are a Disgrace! Mey God Have Mercy on you Ediot and your Ilks Chris Wales
195. #193
Dorothy Friend ,   Tel Aviv   (01.08.06)
And some people thought that Robertson would stop at the gays. See what the Evangelists and Fundamentalists think when Israel doesn't toe their line and go with their agenda?
196. Started profanely, and ended with a prayer?
MQS ,   Missouri, USA   (01.08.06)
Chris, Wales post 194 Your post is precisely the intolerant type of behavior that both extremist muslims, and extremist christian fundamentalists share in common. You cannot see that your point of view is a parody of itself. Besides the dichotomy of beginning with a profanity, then moving to name calling and then finally to another propaganda technique called " linking the oponent's cause with the devil " you associated me with everything from the A.C.L.U to facisim. Then, you end your tirade with a prayer! And you wonder why such idealogues are not taken seriously. You are about 2 more extreme points from strapping on a suicide bomb yourself. Your post did not deserve being dignified by this response.
197. No 'peace' without the Prince of Peace.
Doug ,   Tredegar, UK   (01.08.06)
The virulent hostility here that is sometimes directed towards Christians and Jews who would stand upon God`s word is very sad. The Scriptures quoted by Pat Robertson apply to anyone and everyone and not just Ariel Sharon. They are not to be taken in isolation but in the full and entire context of the whole of Scripture and are there for all to read and digest or ultimately reject, as each individual sees fit. Many who have expressed such hostility appear to be simultaneously offering prayers for Sharon. May I respectfully ask who they are praying to. Is it the God of the Bible, the Person who Himself is called the Lord God of Israel, the Creator of the Universe and whose Word was quoted by Pat Robertson? History and the Bible is replete with examples of leaders who have denied their God and led the nation astray. Many, like some contributors here, have believed that they are all knowing and self sufficient and have no need of their Creator. The evidence of their humanistic attempts to find a man-made peace lie in ruins all around us. Even the US Presidential spokesperson now considers that the Word of the God of the Bible has no place in the scenario surrounding the Holy Land. All this while the footsteps of Messiah approach Jerusalem - (the Prince of Peace, the Lion of the Tribe of Judah) - according to the same Scriptures already mentioned. "The burden of the word of the LORD against Israel. Thus says the LORD, who stretches out the heavens, lays the foundation of the earth, and forms the spirit of man within him: "Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of drunkenness to all the surrounding peoples, when they lay siege against Judah and Jerusalem. "And it shall happen in that day that I will make Jerusalem a very heavy stone for all peoples; all who would heave it away will surely be cut in pieces, though all nations of the earth are gathered against it....For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem........; Then the LORD will go forth And fight against those nations, As He fights in the day of battle.......And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, Which faces Jerusalem on the east..... " (Zechariah 12; v1-3 & Zechariah 14; 1-4) Please take a time out and check the Scriptures that you are condemning others for believing. God bless you all.
198. PROPHECY
MN   (01.08.06)
LEARN YOUR HISTORY o' woman! Do you know nothing of your bible?
199. PROPHECY & HEBREW HISTORY
MN   (01.08.06)
ARE WE SO FOOLISH AS TO THINK THAT THE U.S. HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH END TIMES AND THREATENING POOR ISRAEL? LEARN YOUR HEBREW HISTORY AND UNDERSTAND YOUR BIBLES CORRECTLY! (MARCEL IS MORE ON TRACK THAN MANY!)
200. Re: G-d is dead
Jacob Best   (01.09.06)
Did you know that Nazism (which includes Islam) and Communism caused more deaths than all religious deaths combined and doubled over? The rest of your post is a joke. I have no will to answer every dog that barks.
201. To Marcel, MN, et al.
Alexei Kireev ,   Chisinau, Moldova   (01.11.06)
People, you can't be serious! Bush is dictating policy to Israel? Oh, come on! Whose responsibility is it in the first place to defend Israel against terrorist attacks - Bush's or Sharon's? Of course, Bush, EU, UN and all the powers that be would want to be praised as 'pacifiers' of the Middle East. But in my opinion, they're all completely lost. They haven't got a clue about what to do. They just pretend to be doing some "gestures" at best. Anyway, the first one responsible for the well-being of Israel is Sharon (well, looks like Olmert, now). So, here's a question for you, a riddle if you will: name one ruler of one modern-day state who gave part of his country as a gift to murderous thugs? Is it Bush? Or, maybe, Bush made this certain leader do it? Don't think so. Tell me what do you think! Who is it? For I am completely lost and disoriented ;-)
202. re: Pat Robertson's interpretation of Scripture is correct
Cathy ,   Georgia USA   (01.11.06)
You hit the nail on the head Michael. Whether or not Mr. Sharon's illness was "punishment" is not the issue, but indeed it is God who raises up and puts down leaders according to His divine purposes (which are always good, just, and righteous, Ps 19. ) We continue to pray for Mr. Sharon, his speedy recovery, and for our beloved Israel's children to return to the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and for all the leaders of all nations, and all people everywhere to stand on the side of the Most High God, El Elyon - As He spoke through Israel's prophet Isaiah said: "For there is no other." All one needs to to do is seek the Lord while He may be found. Draw near to Him and He will draw near to you. Study the Scriptures to see this is indeed the Lord's way. Test every spirit.
203. Pat Roberston & Osama
Robert Hatton ,   Jupiter, Fl   (01.11.06)
Comment # 193 by MSQ in view of the facts is incomphrehensible in that he comparied Osama to Pat. Pat's work throught the world in relieving human suffering, especially medical and feeding the hungry is well known. MSQ may be either very ignorant or filled with hate himself for a wonderful human such as Pat Robertson. Prayers for him are needed!
204. 174. Torah Reality - Lev 25:23
Duffy ,   USA   (01.11.06)
Refer to Leviticus 25:23 "The land shall not be sold permanently ,for the land is Mine, you are strangers and sojourners with ME".
205. #93 Who is He who is coming soon?
Jean Anders ,   Romeoville, Il. U>S>   (01.11.06)
He who is coming soon is Jesus, the Messiah whom the Jews have been looking for. The majority of them rejected him the first time he came, but soon their hearts will be turned to Him, according to Scripture. We have watched so many of the prophesies about Israel being fulfilled, so we know this one will be as well. Pat Robertson was not speaking unkindly about Sharon. I know he loves Israel and Sharon, who has been such a great leader, but who is only human and was influenced by leaders in our country who do not have as great an understanding of the scripture and God's plan for Israel. God will not allow any man to thwart His plan for His people Israel and the land He gave them as their possession forever. They were taken from their land for awhile, but He miraculously brought them back, and the land can not be taken from them again according to scripture. One thing that confirms the validity of scripture is the fulfullment of prophecy, and we've seen so much fulfillment through the nation Israel already. It is the prophecies that are being fulfilled that enables us to know Jesus will return soon. Find yourself a Bible and read the book of John to learn how you can be ready to meet Him when He returns.
206. #113 Jesua is not Gof of Jews Got that?
Jean ,   U.S.A.   (01.11.06)
NO! end
207. Pat Robertson's right
Anthony Wandeto ,   Nairobi, Kenya   (01.11.06)
Yes, he may sound "arrogant","callous" and "with a world political agenda" but many will hear, crticise and only a handful wil understand what Pat is talking about! If there's anything holy on this earth (which there isn't), Israel comes close to this. Yes, it is God's land and no matter what everyone thinks, that's the truth. We dont have to do much research to realize what the bible says about Israel is the truth! Time will tell all ye cynics, haters and unbelievers!
208. Tru that: 74
Anthony wandeto ,   Nairobi, kenya   (01.11.06)
True that! Pretty amazing what God says about Israel! Lets keep praying for the Peace of Jerusalem and THE ACTUAL PEACE OF JERUSALEM.
209. Post #34-Michael Lewis
TC ,   USA   (01.11.06)
You need to use your spell-check as well-"quarterback" is one word and has another "R" in it. And I think you probably meant "motives", not "morives", eh? "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone..........."
210. post #203
MQS ,   Missouri, USA   (01.12.06)
Another evangelical whose comment consists of name calling. Can you not see that religious extremism is dangerous, no matter what the religion? Who provides much of the humanitarian relief to the palestinians? Hamas and Hezbollah. Osama supported one of the poorest countries of the world with more than 3 million dollars out of his own pocket. That does not make his politics less reprehensible. Robertsons gifts to charity, in the same light, do not change the fact that he is a religious extremist. Therefore, by definition, he is in the same category as Osama. Accepting that as fact will be more than you can wrap your intellect around, I am certain. For example, look at the maverick judge in the American south, that was seeking to keep a copy of the ten commandments in his courthouse. There is no difference, in principle, to the Islamic revolutionaries in Iran that seek to rule with the combined power of the state and their religion. There is a reason that US law forbids the establishment of a national religion. Theocracy is dangerous, and the most despicable kind of tyrany by the majority. Face the fact, freedom of religion is also freedom from religion. Robertson has made a FORTUNE using the public airwaves for his money grubbing, donation seeking empire. Face it, you can't have it both ways. If Pat can call for the assasination of duly elected heads of foreign governments, and suggest that God is punishing the Jewish PM, how is that different from Khomeni supporting the takeover of the US embassy in Terhan? Religion and politics do not and shoud not mix. The founding fathers knew this, how did you forget? Do you only wish to obey the laws that you like?
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