Why Ynet even published this article in the first place is beyond me, but if you READ the article, it says: "Members of the 'Red Hand for Redemption', who penned the letters, are unknown among the Haredim. Sources in the community told ynet that, to them, the letters seem like more a teenager's "practical joke" and said that "this is not the way of a community in the midst of a struggle." So, why is everybody attacking Chareidim for this when they disagree with it?

I do not consider LITERALY that "those who lays...........should be PUT TO DEATH". I understand it more as a simbolic expressive way of something to be fiercely DENIED.

Those diagrams are so insane. Ludicrous!! Pure insanity!!

Who is changing G-d's word anyway? I began to think maybe I'd always misread that commandment, so I went and looked it up. There it is, plain as day: LO TIRTZAKH (pardon my transliteration) = Do not murder. Lirtzoakh = to murder, la'arohg = to kill.

HATEFUL in every way of life. Yes there are blind self rightieous religious people that cant see straight. But practically every liberal is full of hate its amazing and then they claim acceptance. its only acceptance of murderers and bandits its truly amazing the amount of hate you have in you. We dont fight anything its what were for but you are about fighting those who want meaning and a purpose in life... so pacetic and showing how low weve sunk surely its the darkness before the light..... Moshiach now

Or a "spin-doctors" which were to benefit the most from such a "thret". Now if the threat is real and anyone was actually caught and found guilty of the crime in the COURT OF LAW, it should be treated as hate crime eticement to murder etc. Justice has to prevail. As of provocation is concerned the action against such a perpetrators should be EQUALLY HARSH. I belive it is the LEADERSHIP of ISRAEL, RELIGIOUS, POLITICAL and COMMUNITY LEADERS who have to make the STOP - to this tastless display of contempt on the Jewish holly grounds. Jewish belifs, Jewish VALUES and the Jewish G-d. Most of us are heterosexuall yet none of us would propagate HETEROSEXUAL "PRIDE DAY" and displey what is "heterosexuality" at AlAqsa grounds, Churches, or any other RELIGIOUS SIGNIFICANT SITE in order not to OFFEND the feelings of the majority people who hold to those values dear. Things what other people hold to be holly JEWS do not ofend, churches all over the Jerusalem still exist, so do Masks what other people consider holly we the Jews did not offend in any shape or form.. but what JEWS hold HOLIEST our local idiots and thousand others are trying to step all over our values, and our HOLIEST site. Threat of death is not call of the sane person, but to call Jewish authorities to defend the JEWISH VALUES and SENSITIVITIES of every Jew who hold the Jewish values to be live and true. Sodom WAS in Israel but not in Jerusalem.

If the letter was written by Heradim it most likelly would have (B"H) on the top of the left corner, usually every letter starts with B"H on the top left corner of the letter it is never missed unless it is a PROVOCATEUR who want to draw the sympaty to its "cause" by targeting the INOCENT PEOPLE for their own pleasure. It is amazing how many people are ready to jump on religious Jews and so eager to offer the sacrifice of the religious Jews to the "altar" of yet another social "experiment" to offer the Jews to tha altar of "gods" of Sodom(y).. To the few dedicated morons here: Way to go morons! This orgy of stupidity beats the "fest" of the "Golden Calf" by distance.

Interesting. No responses to my previous message. Perhaps the reason everybody decided to attack the Chareidim is not because they were responsible for this flyer, which the article clearly states, but because some people have too much hate in their systems for the religious world. So instead of looking for facts, which you won't find on YNet, you prefer to speak loshon horah. How sad.

I meant: "...which the article clearly states they are not [responsible for]..."

This sounds like it was planted by someone who was looking for publicity. No genuine Hareidi would make such an offer. It would be murder, plain and simple, and against the Torah. It should be remembered that no Rabbinical court has been able to impose the death penalty for 2000 years, so there is no "halachic" excuse whatsoever available. Either the flyer is a publicity stunt or there is a very dangerous mentally ill person running around loose. I hope the police find who is responsible and do whatever is necessary to keep them from harming anyone, by either physical violence or inciting violence in others.

Are you saying that just because you deem something immoral that you have the right to kill them? Does that include Secular Jewish people? Are you like Nigeria who advocates the stoning of women who commit the sin of adultery? Then by the same token, the Wahadi Muslims have the same right to kill YOU because they deem Judiaism immoral. What is the difference between YOU and the fanatics who crashed into the Twin Towers in NY? Nothing.

“Liberal” hate comes mainly from ANARCHIST which are drawn manly from lower layer of petite-bourgeoisie of low slef-esteemed mob-driven society. Liberal means one who would be MINDFULL of other people’s values and would consider them as a matter of philosophical challenge and scientific deduction considering all social vectors their direction and strengths. Some people have strong beliefs in your society you will not WANTONLY trample over them. Be it Jew, Muslim or Cristian, you will not force your AGENDA JUST TO HURT THEM, because it has nothing to do with your values and everything to do with POWER. If homosexuality is someone’s life-style it should not be forced on the rest of the society like as one of your folks readily accused your opposition to be as “Taliban” it is actually opposite true gey community is using the mob-mentality to intimidate, prosecute and outright trample anyone on their way. I posed the simplest question why it was so important to have the JEWISH HOLIEST place chosen to be a place for their festival of sodomy? Here in Canada Toronto is not capital Ottawa is, so gays have once a year “Pride Day” down town Toronto where is their community the most active. It did not insist to parade into Catholic Community Centre, or their churches, or Muslim Masks they choose few streets (and few surrounding ones) had a day of display of homosexual “life-style” and that is it.. no churches, holy grounds or i.e. veteran burial sites etc. they know not to probe into the deeply felt national values, although in Canada gay community has the immense social influence and accomplished much, it still choose not to trample over those sensitivities society at large still holds dear. So by asking gay community to cancel Jerusalem for their festival is reasonable request based on sensitivities and beliefs of many citizens of Jerusalem of whichever fate Jewish, Muslim or a Cristian.. otherwise gays are looking just for a challenge, that Israeli society has to respond and excursive leadership and to protect the local community of foreign intrusion and forced display of the life-style that vast majority of the local citizens hold to be offensive, tasteless and outright challenge to the core of their religious beliefs. If gays want to move to Tel-Aviv (their home city.. riiiight?) to display their SEXUAL activity latent or otherwise, to many of the people are all ready comfortably CULTURALLY NUM would not come as a surprise. But to the Homosexuals Jerusalem is like “Stalingrad” it is the final battle, and the ultimate “prize” to thumb-up to the Jewish G-d which destroyed once the city of Sodom and Gomorrah.. so they want to show to the Jews that there is no Jewish G-d and that there is the only SODOM all over the world. There is no other real significance for public display of sodomite orgies on the Jewish holiest site.

The poster offering money for the murder of gays might be a big fraud. However, Shas "spritual leader" Ovadiah Yosef is now on record likening those who travel to Jerusalem for this event, whether Jewish or not, "Canaanites" and "evil people." See link below. The only reason I would not put Yosef in "administrative detention" for "incitement" is because I am a democrat. Let's be clear, though, that he is encouraging attacks and even murder. This is a fact, and no twsiting of language this time will make this fact go away. http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=106882

Do not speak as a Canadian if you don't understand what it means to be Canadian Nebojsa Yitzchak. The reason the gay pride parades take place in Montreal and Toronto is precisely why it should take place in Jerusalem. If gays in Canada felt threatened by the State, you can bet it would take place in Ottawa (the capital). But Canada is one of the few countries to have lagalised gay marriage, gays don't feel as threatened here as they do in Israel.

That is absolutely disgusting !!!! Shame on whoever did that ! i can't stop shaking my head in disbelief !

Pride's take place in city's throughout Canada, not just Toronto. Toronto's is the largest, mainly because it is Canada's largest city. Pride's take place in over two dozen Canadian cities every year, even Ottawa which has the fourth largest Pride in Canada, sometimes the third largest, depending on how well Vancouver does at bringin their's together. So yes Nebojsa, there is a Capital Pride in Ottawa, the capital of Canada. Also in Montreal, Vancouver, Edmonton, Calgary, Saskatoon, Winnipeg, Guelph, Windsor, Kingston, Quebec City, Halifax, St John, Charlottetown, etc... Check your facts before you try to legitimize moving World Pride from Jerusalem to some other city. Countries, even relatively small countries like Israel, can have more than one Pride Parade.

And your point being?

Yes; but read carefully what I wrote. I also said that if it is a Hareidi, then it is a sick individual.

secular people will believe anything written in the news these days if i were Ynet and i wrote that haredim kidnapped a secular person... with out even checking the facts the seculars would be foaming at at the mouth, even if this were not true. and if it were a secular person killing a religious person they would not care at all and be like: " who cares" secular people only care about their innocents until proven guilty and thier rights no one else deserves rights ay?

His point being : SHUT UP

The opinions of a lot of the holier than thou on Talkback show me it's not far off. And put down Secular people all you want, it's those same Liberal Jews in the USA who send money to Israel. I have nothing against Orthodox, Chasidim or even Israel's Haredim and if someone was advocating their murder, I'd be just as horrified. What scares me is that some people on here aren't saying it's horrible to do that to gay people, just that the flyer isn't true. They have no concern about the murder of human beings.

#28 is right. No traditional Orthodox Jew, let alone Hareidi, would produce any document without beginning it with an abbreviation invoking Hshem's help or blessing. In (some) Ulpans, teachers write such abbreviations on the blackboard - when all that's being written are grammar exercises: there's no way a religious Jew would write a leaflet without beginning it with such an abbreviation, invoking Heaven's help. It's clearly a hoax meant, I assume, to gain sympathy for the World Pride organization and, without doubt, to cause trouble for the religious. Anyone with any familiarity with Orthodox Judaism knows this. It's shameful that the press gave this criminal hoax any credence.

What are the Haredi afraid of? Why do they think we are so evil? We are exactly - EXACTLY - the same as everyone else. I can think of many reasons to not like someone, but sexual orientation is not one of them. It means nothing. Gay people are a great blessing to every family. Most pre-Judaism societies understood this and made the gay folks their shamans. This is still found in remote areas of Burkina Faso and New Guinea where modern religions have not screwed the people up yet.

What a tragedy it is that a group of Jerusalem's jews, for whom the experence of the Holocaust has understandably and legitimately forged a world view, have learned so little about the soul-poisoning intoxication of hatred! God must be weeping.

...you're in denial. Keep in mind the fact that last year ultra-orthodox jews threw human waste at the marchers. Fundamentalist hate movements - Jewish, Christian and Muslim - are spreading globally and must be confronted directly and fought before they drag the world into chaos.

To those who are surprised this flyer was taken seriously, note that it would not have been were it inconsistent with other Haredi acts.

When evil is called good, is G-d fooled? When what is an abomination is celebrated, is G-d glorified?

It's not clear to me why someone's belief that homosexuality is an abomination to God is labeled as "hatred" on your website. It's a difference of beliefs, not hatred. Try using a little more objectivity in your headlines and reporting. Thanks.

I imagine that it is similar in Israel as in the US, and I am going to give you the facts: I am not gay, don't get it, never will. Fine. But, I am not going to kill someone just because I don't understand it. Here is the problem: Parades, special days, etc.. If you (gays and les) push it in peoples faces, you will get the extreme response. Just be gay, stay home, cut the grass, watch tv, etc... Do we have heterosexual parades? No. Just be a normal human being, live your life. You don't have to hide your orientation, but why shove it down our throats? That is the issue...fact.