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World newspapers: How can we stand by?
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Published: 31.07.06, 07:37
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61. To Roger and to all
Kal ,   Syria   (07.31.06)
First of all, Mr.roger..."How many workers are carrying that body" its the same rescue worker u idiot!! im not surprized that ur dump as ur presedent, maybe dumber...please stay in cali and dont give ur stupid openion if u dont know whats really goin on!! second, to every one who thinks that these are not red cross workers, well they are, the pictures doesnt show, but we have seen them live on arabic T.V, they where red cross workers, unfortunatly ur T.V didnt show u what was really going on in Qana...children died in their mothers arms with their moms...im sorry for all isreali losses,even though there are hundreds of arab killed against each isreali, but u only want to see and hear what pleases u...be more reasonable, and try to get ur news from more that one source....
62. To Ana
kal ,   Syria   (07.31.06)
Dear Ana, we all feel sorry for the loss, we cant control what other people do, or atleast we try our best to do so. but cant u say the loss of isreali lives is nothing compared to the losses in palisteni lives since u isreal clamed the pali land? all the massacares that happened without any body doing somthing about it...ana, u seem to be well educated, and im sure u know isreal history on how they forced pali's out their land... Let me tell u somthing, if some one killed ur brothers and family (God Forbid) wouldnt u feel the rage and veangance inside? its hard to control it, so i tell u what ever is happening in isreali busses and malls and restaurants, is not only happening to u...its happening to arabs as well... im not gonna argue who started first coz im sure u wont be convinced, but i tell u it is rage from both sides, if u kill my brother i will kill urs...thats how they think...its rong,and it needs to be solved... thanks for listening and may peace be upon u and to those u love
63. Israel and the world (Arabic)
Ariel van Kessel ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (07.31.06)
Hezbolla kills and take a few Israelite soldiers, to start worldwar III! Under the leadership of Iran. Hezbolla 'offer' their own people to dead. Blames Israel and the rest of the world is following. Maybe we can 'sus' them? Our friends the Arabic's, they suffer so much! A few Jews take an Arabic, and.....Nobody react. Not even the Arabic's themselfs Ariel, Jerusalem, 'MaleAsoth', Brrrrrrr!
64. What an incredibly offensive post
catherine ,   seattle   (07.31.06)
Shall I explain in words of one syllable? Your deeply offensive and incredibly idiotic comment beggars belief. These poor children were in Qana because of the Israeli bombing offensive : civilians could not move into or out of Southern Lebanon under these conditions. Up to last week, Isreal would not even guarantee safe passage to the Red Cross. Which is why Israel has begun a 48 cease-fire so that civilians can leave. Next time think before you leave such horrendous statements on a website. Do you honestly think that any organisation would deliberately trap innocent civilians in an area so that their sworn enemy could kill them, just to get some publicity? The next time Israeli civilians die, will you suggest that it is an 'Israeli Trick'? And you have mispelled 'definitly' .
65. Ever heard of Britisharaba or French
ERIC... ,   ISRAEL   (07.31.06)
araba.The BRITS and THE FROGS in 25years from now will be Arab.THE BRITISH and FRENCH are petrified of the Arabs.They have no guts too stand up against terrorism.Spain ran for there lives,now they support terrorism.The world is in trouble....
66. To 43 - Voice of Peace - do I have children ?
Yossi ,   ISRAEL   (07.31.06)
a. I do have children AND grandsons b. If the choice is death of innocent people ( men, women, youngsters, old, children, etc. - I DO NOT MAKE EXCEPTIONS AND DISCRIMINATIONS ) from their side OR our side….then, let be THEY ! c. What about your revolting appeal to the IDF pilot ? d. What about your knowledge of the Koran peace statements ? DO NOT hide behind words and false sentimentalism.
67. What about Kosovo bombing?
Mike ,   Oxford, UK   (07.31.06)
During the 1999 Kosovo campaign, NATO planes bombed a refugee convoy, killed 50 people. Where was the UN with its "extreme shock and distress"? They also bombed a chinese embassy, killed 3 chinese journalists. Where was Kofi Annan with his condemnations? They bombed the Serbian TV, killed its 16 employees. The station continued broadcasting from a secret location. Where was the condemnation for stifling the freedom of speach? The bottom line: Israel is attacked by the international opinion for what it is, not for what it does. It must continue doing what it considers right regardless of what they say.
68. Newspapers
Dr John Maxwell ,   Rechovot Israel   (07.31.06)
Learn: If any of the foreign media, whether written or visual have anything "good" to say about Israel you can be sure that we have suffered some form of pain or loss. Otherwise they are ALWAYS anti-Israel in their comments!
69. More Lies
Sandy aron ,   Haifa, Israel   (07.31.06)
Just like the Jennin masacre that wasn't, or the boy who was killed by Arab fire, not Israeli, or the poisoning of Arab girls that was simply Arab-induced hysteria??? The building collapsed 5 hours after the missle we fired..... The building housed missles to be fired at our children - not as sorrowful collateral deaths, but with intent to murder and maim. Who set off those missles? Who forced those children to stay there? The IDF warned of the pending fire. Why didn't someone there get those children out? Our children are given no such warning. It is war. It is ugly. And it is not we who endager the Lebanese chldren, nor ever dance when they are killed. Who are the barbarians, and who is it that supports them?
70. Standing By is Easy - They Do it A Lot
Jeremy S. Slavin ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (07.31.06)
The world has stood by while Arabs slaughtered Africans in Darfur, Sudan. While Hutus committed genocide against Tutsis in Rwanda, the world - and these newspapers, likely - stood by. When Muslims oppress Muslims, these newspapers stand by. When Muslims slaughter Muslims, these newspapers and countries often stand by. Why don't these newspapers ask the same thing when Jews die in terrorist attacks? They don't seem to have any qualms about people killing Israelis. I wonder, how many of the newspapers openly speaking of what happened in Qana in our time kept their mouths shut if they existed during the years of Nazi rule and oppression of Jews in Germany? Where is the outrage at Hizballah for having started all this? Where is the outrage that while civilians die in Lebanon as collateral damage in Israeli attacks, civilians die in Israel not because they are collateral damage, but because they are the targets. Where's the outrage? Lost in the hypocrisy and double-standards, that's where.
71. #60 furthermore
Mabel at the Table ,   US of A   (07.31.06)
their army of 80,000 by choice decided to sit on their hands along with their handlers the UN doing nothing as Hizbollah took over. NOT EVEN THE SLIGHTEST WHIMPER mind you. However, they posture to fight Israel and thank Hizbollah who started it all for their gallantry???! I just don't get it. I am told because these people went to the polls to vote they are democratic. Now the US will pay to rebuild Lebanon and prop them up with taxpayers money. I remind you just as the US is doing and has done with the Palestinians who overwhelming voted in Hamas. Democracy is something which is earned not given. PERIOD. The Lebanese and the Palestinians have a long way to go. It is said that because the Lebanese are now so angry at Israel more and more will go to the side of Hizbollah. Nothing can convince me that thinking intelligent people would know that HIzbollah got them into this war and they should fight Hizbollah. But hey, they are democratic. They have seen the light. Must run to work now to make more money so my hard earned tax dollars can go to phony democracies around the world. Phony democracies without backbones who hate Jews from the depths of their hearts. see ya......
72. to #9
(07.31.06)
But he is not a human. do you wait from him to understand what you wrote. He was educated to be an animal.
73. the guardian
giora   (07.31.06)
the guardian compared the fighting in jenin to the 9/11 event in new york.need we say more?
74. The IDF is moral and compassionate
Micha ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (07.31.06)
The Israeli defense forces are moral and compassionate compared to other defence forces in the world. They do not taget children or civilians. Every journalist knows this. The journalists in the Guardian etc are liars who deliberately distort the truth for the sake of sensational journalism.
75. Objectively
KahvaJ ,   Egypt   (07.31.06)
lets say Israel did warn the civilians to leave their homes in Qana , lets believe this from an army that exactly ten years ago , fled the same bloodshed in this same village ( in 1996, people were at a UN structure , not their homes) , lets all believe that civilians were warned , let us then answer another question , how are the families supposed to leave while the IDF ruckusly destroyed all roads , bridges , even 2nd hand streets that lead out of the city , how would a father feel safe to put his family in a car and drives them away , through the bushes maybe , while IDF is bombing each and every car passing on roads , 750 lebanese civilians (400 children) , 51 israelis (32 army soldiers and 19 civilians) maybe 4 of them are children , we condemn the death of children anywhere , wether they were lebanese , israeli or even marsian , but let us not talk abt proportionality , israeli children are sending our children in lebanon messages on bombs and shells , none of those worldwide newspapers covered that , Israel pulled their children in the war game , a message from our children " we will never comply , we won't surrender"
76. #2 you are clearly being
NTI ,   Red Chili   (07.31.06)
analytical. Good work done! These bloody stupid muslims can charade and shed all the crocodile tears they want, aided by those stupid, useful idiots at those newspapers who are clearly against Israel. Let's pray that they (useful idiots) come to their senses soon enough, before muslims cut their 'willing' throats. Russia is a good illustration of what I meant. www.faithfreedom.org has more to show of the deceptions muslims use.
77. same old same old
Yisraeli   (07.31.06)
its all a propoganda ploy by hizbollah and very effective because they know people are so stupid and gullible and they know they can always rely on pathetic western media to make a meal of it. Israel has nothing to apologise for, on the contrary it should keep moving up a notch and bomb more houses if used as cover by hizbollah so they should learn that they cant hide behind children for ever. Nevermind what the world says, the world is a very sick world we all know that.
78. British Press
adrian buckley ,   Leeds England   (07.31.06)
I hope Israel gets its two soldiers back, then I hope they think the million displaced people (because they are people) and the destruction of their neighbour , and the thousands of dead children were worth it. Then I hope they don't yelp on using the influencial jewish diaspora suggesting that anyone who disagrees with the murder of innocent civilians is somehow an anti semite. the greatest cause of anti semitism in the world is the terrorist state of israel that refuses to get back behind its '67 borders despite numerous UN resolutions , and its unhealthily close association with washington that flies in devastating weaponry whilst pretending to be pursuing a peaceful agenda. Armageddon awaits , the bible prophecied all this unfolding in exactly the manner that it is doing , what a shame that humanity after thousands of years of development has come to this , EVERY JEW SHOULD WALK INTO LEBANON TODAY AND HUG A MUSLIM , only love will spare us the ultimate fate , and you are cousins after all - Abraham loved both his children Isaac and Ishmael
79. Not only their Editorials
Herut Zion ,   Newcastle, UK   (07.31.06)
if you visit http://talk.guardian.co.uk you will see how the hatred of Israel, often borderline with when not overtly anti-Semitism, is allowed there by Moderators who usually delete pro-Israel posts and/or ban pro-Israel posters.
80. 64catherine
Ana   (07.31.06)
Israel warned the civilians to leave before strinking. If they stayed there the likely reasons are that they didnt want to leave, that Hizbollah didnt allow them to or that the terrorists organization made them believe they would be safe there, knowing full well it wasnt true.
81. 62 to kal
Ana ,   Spain   (07.31.06)
Dear Kal, I also feel very sorry for the loss. However, some people feel sorry for the losses on one side and not on the other. We should also take into account who started this war and what Hizbollah’s customs are with regards to civilians. Israel doesn’t claim the pal land. An Arab Palestinian state has never existed. And the now self-.proclaimed pals don’t want a state as they say, but to grab others’ land (Israel). Even hamas charter admits that the Muslims, one time, occupied Israel, herein Israel is Waqf, and the charter admits it was seized from the Jews. For any non-jihadist, even hamas charter admits that the legitimate owners of Israel are the Jews. Here you have hamas charter http://www.mideastweb.org/hamas.htm I happened to have been educated and besides am a Christian. So I also studied the Jews’ history. Of course, I would feel that rage if some of my relatives or friends had been killed. And the Israelis are entitled to feel the same rage. Besides a country has the right and the obligation to defend its citizens from aggressions. And that is what Israel is doing. Both sides have to restrain themselves. But what I have seen is that, even when Israel has unilaterally given them Gaza, they haven’t stopped attacking. And also that the Iranian president is financing Hizbollah for it to achieve the goal of removing Israel off the map, as he declared. All of these people attacking Israel openly declare they want to destroy it and kill the Jews, that they are making jihad. So all of us know who’s to blame. I feel also sorry for the Syrians and the Iranians. Nothing good can come from your governments..
82. to Kal. A question
Ana   (07.31.06)
Doesnt Syria boast of being secular? What is it doing with the ayatollah's?
83. to #9
jason white ,   afula,israel   (07.31.06)
You anus! It says in the Torah that if someone is coming to kill you or someone of your blood,kill him first. Peace?There can be no peace with mad dog arabs. By the way I wish there were 100,000 children killed there.Less terrorists in the future.
84. Killing children?
Sandy ,   Haifa, Israel   (07.31.06)
Where were you in WWII? Were no chldren killed by Allied forces? Wars kill people. We didn't ask for this war; we've done all that could be done to prevent it so no one's children need to be killed. But they want to kill our children. Not only do they do all they can to kill and maim our chldren, they jubilate and hand out candies when they succeed. What is the crime here?
85. Shock
(07.31.06)
Israelis feel shock and regret about an accidental killing of children, unlike some who on purpose hide behind children, target children in suicide bomings and missiles and afterwards hand out sweets on the street and shoot in the air from joy. Unlike some who kill a Jewish child in Safed with rockets an enjoys, but sends condolences when Arab children are hit by rockets in Nazareth and calls them shahidim.
86. Nr. 74 "The IDF is moral and compassionate"
joe   (07.31.06)
***Every journalist knows this*** Well, at least the ones the IDF shot at during their rampage in Jenin.
87. Muslims kill hundreds of Muslims (and kuffars)DAILY
Christian Bianrossa   (07.31.06)
But you wouldn't know it from reading MSM newspapers. Many blogs report this news but the majority of American and world public know NOTHING about this.
88. Sad
Maya ,   France   (07.31.06)
Finding excuses for what happened in Qana is a double crime. "Bombing unfortunate, but justified"???? "It's war, shit happens"????? I can't beleive in my worst nightmare that normal educated people in Israel & US can really approve on what is happening. You really beleive in what you are saying? Wake up guys. Normal people do not want to see innocent people dying on any side. I am sick from the ignorant manipulated people. They managed to build the hate seeds in us and we are acting like stupid marionnettes...Bravo!
89. #85
Kareem ,   Egypt   (07.31.06)
An Accidental mistake? o yeah..the Holocaust was an accidental mistake..those gas showers were thought to be normal showers until they later discovered that gas leaked into them and suffocated the jews..yep..6 million of them...now..if u wanna believe this story..plz do..but when it comes to using common sense..it's all BS..Israel just wants to use the 'Holocaust' to gain the world's sympathy. How many '6 million' romans died b4? how many '6 milion' Byzantines died b4..the Ottoman empire? Grow up Israel..i don't even believe there was a holocaust now, even though I was taught it at school..I've seen pictures and videos of the Auschwitz camp..i've seen Israelis saying it was a lie..and that it was impossible to burn 6 million bodies with the resources they had and with the testimonies of the liars..so right now, you Israelis look so bad in front of the world..this whole holocaust was bogus. who knows..maybe it was a mistake after all.
90. Answer to Ana #82
kal ,   syria   (07.31.06)
First of all i respect ur openion about the Pali state, but our story is different than urs, we try to come close in openions but still there is a difference. anyway, all i hope is everybody live in peace. second of all, about who started this war, i dont know if u know about the agreement between Hizzbullah and isreali goverment for exchanging captives, there was an agreement on one person called "Samir Quntar", he's probably some big guy in hizzbullah, but the isreali goverment did not release this guy, so hizzbullah promised to make isreal pay....and so and so...and the war started. the funny thing is an isreali perviouse minister said, that isreal was ready for this war more than it has been to any other war... How can it be that ready in less than 24 hours? and onother thing which made me wonder, one year ago an isreali head in the defence ministry visited some congress men and explained "an attack plan" on hizzbullah which will accure probably next october,but when hizzbullah did what he did, the operation had to be earlier...so Hizzbullah could be responsable as much as isreal,but believe me war was inevitable sooner or later... And im not writing this off my head. About syria being secular, it is actually, we are not an islamic country even though 80% of us are muslims, our laws have nothing to do with islam, only we have people called "SHEIKH" and not ayutulla's, ayatulla's are in iran, these sheikhs are more into society not in goverment,and they have no effect on laws,some of them are against , some of them are with... And somthing else , we have schools have friday off (muslim) and schools that have sunday off, we have around 18% of the population Christians,i have alota christian freinds, Goverment celebrates all christian holidays and islamic holidasys as well, we celebrate chrismas, christians in syria celebrate eid... Sheikhs have nothing to do with the set rules or laws, theyre only involved in society... i hope i answered ur question, im not sure what u ment by it, but please ask me anything u want... thanks for readin Ana..
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