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JA head: Hizbullah, Iranian threat won’t hurt aliyah
Dan Bentsur
Published: 09.10.06, 14:53
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31. #29 another idiot to be added to the list
fadi ,   lebanon   (10.09.06)
Fadi is a he you idiot ... fadi in arabic means Jesus the savior .... and one day hope we will save u and the other nice people from ur sins and the zionist regime that u live underneath to free ur souls so that God will fill with peace and love instead of the hate u live in :)
32. #18 fadummy from leb
jerome ,   basalt, co   (10.09.06)
Fadi do you really beleive the lies you tell or are you just plan ignorant?!?!?!?
33. to # 11
hanzalah naji ali ,   al shajara   (10.09.06)
I mean it to be from this newspaper, so you dont say its your dreams,and so you can beleive in wich sich situation you are
34. 26# Al Shajara your "facts"are wrong
Judah ,   Golan Heights,iSRAEL   (10.09.06)
You claim that the average number of children born from Israeli Arab women is now 8 from a previous figure of 12. You also claim that Jewish women have 1.5 children. Now either you are ignorant of the truth or you are purposely distorting the facts. According to statistics from the Ministry of Interior the Arab birthrate has fallen to 4.3 (and continues to fall) and the Jewish birthrate has remained steady at 2.5. Since Jews make up almost 80% of the population and only Jews have the right of return you are only dreaming when you state that by 2050 Arabs will make up 51% of the population. A much more accurate figure would be 25 to 30 %. If a large scale aliyah occurs before 2050 then even this figure will be to high. Face reality, the Jewish state is here to stay!
35. Fadi, you sure it isnt Fatsy, how was it to bury 1000 people
Fadi's Lover ,   Lebanon   (10.09.06)
Nice huh, hows your villages that we bombed, yeah you sure won moron. Regarding #22, you will always be a She to me, hey fruit cake, come over here and I'll use your Allah's sword to swipe of your nutz. Fadi if you come back to life, you can be rest assured, I will kick Fadi's arse back to the grave. Kiss Kiss
36. Obsession: Radical Islam's War Against the West
(10.09.06)
Obsession: Radical Islam's War Against the West http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-692071627799119020
37. The anti-Semitic phenomenon in the Arab world...
Alexander   (10.09.06)
...has existed since the birth of Islam. For approximately 1400 years the Muslims in general and the Arabs in particular(although there were and still are a few exceptions) have slaughtered, massacred, discriminated, insulted, defamed and demeaned the Jewish people. This is not a matter of opinion but rather a matter of fact. If you ask anti-Semites they will allways claim that there are no facts but just opinions. In other words: the existence of a human being is just a matter of opinion and the person will cease to exist if I believe he/she doesn't exist. Naturally, this is nothing else but nonsense and a bunch of crap. There are facts and the world must deal with it - even if that means that they will have to admit their wrongdoings. The world must admit the historical falsification concerning the "Palestinians" - an invented, fictitious "identity" with no connection to history - an "identity" whose sole purpose for existence is the destruction of the Jewish people and the State of Israel. There is no "Palestine" and the entire land belongs to the Jewish people and the Arabs ought to leave it. After all, the Arabs possess today 99,8% of the Middle East, a territory that is vastly bigger than the US. Even though the Jewish people has lived in Mesopotamia(present Iraq and former ancient Assyria and Babylonia) since the 6th century BC and in Egypt and Alexandria since the days of ancient Greece in the 4th century BC, the Jews have almost allways been considered to be "outsiders" and "foreigners" by the Arab/Muslim population in North Africa, the Arabian Peninsula and in Arab countries such as Jordan, Syria, Lebanon and Iraq. The Arab/Muslim civilization was established - according to historical facts - in the 7th century AD. The Jewish/Israeli civilization was established approximately 2000 BC. And still the Jews are considered to be an "alien undesirable nation". A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF ARAB/MUSLIM ANTI-SEMITISM. During WW2 the Arabs cooperated with Nazi Germany sending many North African Jews to the death camps in Cenral Europe. And the battle song of the Arabs during WW2 went like this: "No more Mister and no more Monsieur. In heaven Allah and on earth Hitler." Source: "A Durable Peace - Israel And Its Place Among the Nations" by Benjamin Netanyahu. There were even specific Arab military units serving in the Nazi - German war machine. Almost all Jews were expelled from the Arab world in the 1940:s and 1950:s. The Jewish population has declined in the Arab world whereas the Arab population grew steadily in Israel, constituting today about 20% of the population. So the question of who is the victim and who is the perpetrator is no longer a "mystery". Every phenomenon or sign of Jewish independence, pride, strength, honour and human dignity, will naturally be attacked by Arab/Muslim anti-Semites no matter how trivial the subject and matter may be. The hostility to the Jewish people among the vast majority of the Arabs is about Israel's and the Jewish people's existence. The world is facing a new nest of Fascism and Nazism and that nest is called the Arab world. The Western world has put economic, political and military pressure on most despotic regimes in the world(Latin America, Africa, Eastern Europe and so on) but none whatsoever on the Arab states from Marocko in the West to Iraq in the East - until a couple of years ago, when Bush made the brave decision to bring about the fall of Saddam Hussein and bringing democracy to the Iraqi people. The Aliyah will continue despite the difficulties that Israel today is facing. We have managed to create life out of death. We have risen up, we got out of the Valley of Death and we have gathered the Jewish exiles and thus fulfilled the return to Zion and fulfilled the dreams of the Jews in the Diaspora yearning for their origin and the birth place of their proud nation.
38. Israeli lies .....part 2...only fools trust you
Noora ,   Bahrain   (10.09.06)
39. To Fadi and 33
Shai ,   Israel   (10.09.06)
First to 33. Huh? Now for Fadi. Here are the net immigration/emigration figures for israel for the last 10 years. If you got your figures from a Ynet article, obviously you misunderstood them. I've noticed you don't read any articles, or opinions, carefully. 1995: +32K 1996: +50K 1997: +22K 1998: +46K 1999: +47K 2000: +38K 2001: +23K 2002: +12K 2003: - 9K first 2 months of 2004: -13K !! I suppose that any person whose sense of mathematics leaves them with the sense that Hizbollah defeated Israel in the last war might find a way to add up these numbers to tally 750,000 emigrants in the last decade, but any reasonable person wouldn't add up the figures as you do. I guess that means you're not "reasonable". Regarding the Jews leaving their homes in Arab lands on their own, educate yourself at the Wikipedia site that describes the reasons they left, jerk. You'll find it at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_Arab_lands. Regarding the Lebanese seeding the rest of the world - I wish you success in your continued endeavors. Regarding 7.1 million Arabs - so what? They can be citizens of Jordan and Egypt. There is no demographic consequences for us even if it were 10 times this amount. It's merely a matter of time before radical Arab MK's so poison the well that the majority of borderline Arab communities will merely be repoliticized into the PA. As far as the results of the last war, Fadi, I suppose if you measure success by losing on points instead of a TKO, then i suppose you can convince yourself that you succeeded. Jews don't, however, need to dumb down their victories to manufacture imaginary pride, nor do they partake in childish bragging as apparently Arabs of your type are fond of doing. I would recommend that you not continue to flatter yourselves regarding your military prowess, Fadi. I mean, if you are any indication of the vast expanse of Arab opinion, it seems to me that you'll simply be thrashed again in a few months when you become brazen enough to raise your heads against a military force that has spent the last months preparing to do this.
40. Losers? To Rachel...
Alexander   (10.09.06)
I am impressed by the wisdom of Rachel, for it takes a lot of courage to express a big fat lie in just one sentence. Israel has won all of its wars on its own. On a national level, I believe Israel has the 2nd or 3rd highest concentration of people with a university education in the world and Tel Aviv is the city in the world with the highest concentration of people with a university education. 70% of Israel's economy and GDP is covered by high tech research and high tech industry. Israel alone covers 15% of the global trade within the field of high technology. The US has established IBM departments in only ONE country outside the US and I can promise you its not in the home of Crocodile Dundee, but in Israel. Israel is the one single most important high tech center of the world outside California's Silicon Valley. Israel is the only country in the world where the desert dwindles every single year. The cellphone was invented in Israel and so was many of the key components of most "American" computers. If you don't want to belong to the "losers" you had better stop using your computer... Israel's national growth this year was about 5% as compared to 3% for the US and the EU average of 1-2% for the "winners" such as Spain with more than 15% unemployment and 0% growth for Italy and about 15-20% unemployment in the UK and even more depressing figures in Germany. Considering the fact that Israel is surrounded by 300 million Arabs that wishes to annihilate Israel from the face of the earth and that Australia is surrounded mainly by water and dolphins, I think that Israel's achievements are by far more impressive considering the fact that Israel did not start out with the best of odds when its sovereignity was reestablished on May 14th 1948.
41. #31
mike ,   t.o.   (10.09.06)
fadi, You are too agressive and pretentious to be called a woman, that is right. As for saving i hope you will save as from yourself in the future. thank you
42. stronger from this crisis
david(dudu) rabanyan ,   jerusalem   (10.09.06)
i believe that Israel can come out even stronger from this crisis
43. #6 fadi
v. n.y. ,   usa   (10.09.06)
may i remind you fadi that the 750,000 that left, left for the following reasons 1. because of people like yourself who never rest until we are dead....but that won't happen! 2. they went to get more education, specialties, build companies, etc... so that they can come back and give back to israel the rich knowledge they aquired. some choose to stay longer or forever....again because of people like you. how and where would you rather live? with the freedom and peace in the west or bordering on gaza and west bank with all the murderous fadis of the muslims? not a difficult choice here. they didn't leave because they don't like israel. they left to escape the mess you guys created and are continuing to create there. may you all rest in peace!
44. #7
v. n.y. ,   usa   (10.09.06)
but still better than the hammas and pa treat their population. at least israel doesn't murder people on the streets, doesn't place them in camps, doesn't starve them for political and financial profit, doesn't torture them in the name of islam, doesn't saw their throats off and put their severed heads on their bodies, doesn't hide behind kids and moms using them as targets, doesn't brainwash with hate their newcommers, doesn't indocrinate their children to honor and commit jihad, doesn't lie, cheat and steal their money for living and progress, doesn't use them as human shields, doesn't provide them a one sided education full of hate and propaganda, doesn't teach them intolerance and to spit on others. yes, every contry has faults and failing government policies regarding new arrivals to the country. but, at least we are civilized. we can't be everything to everybody. we are a safer country, we have rules and laws to protect these arrivals. all you have is mayhem, murder, beheadings, etc... now, where would you rather live?
45. Alexander 37# and 40#, great emails
Judah ,   Golan,Heights,Israel   (10.09.06)
46. to 39
hanzalah naji ali ,   al - shagara   (10.09.06)
if u want to know how jewish left arab countries, just check the jewish agency scandal book, its well known that jews killed jews, and jewish agency sent mafia to put bombs in jewish syanoges and street, killed jews, to force and convince the majority of them that they are in danger and they must leave to israel, this is your jewish agency. and now u say arab is terrorist, checj the terrorist in your roots.
47. aliyah to where,they make it land of compulsary suicide for
observer   (10.09.06)
Jews ! On Nov. 25, 1940, a boat carrying Jewish refugees from Nazi Europe, the "Patra," exploded and sank off the coast of Palestine killing 252 people. The Zionist "Haganah" claimed the passengers committed suicide to protest British refusal to let them land. Years later, it admitted that rather than let the passengers go to Mauritius it blew up the vessel. "Sometimes it is necessary to sacrifice the few in order to save the many," Moshe Sharett, a former Israeli Prime Minister said at memorial service in 1958. In fact, during the Holocaust, Zionist policy was that Jewish life had no value unless it promoted the cause of the creation of Israel. "One goat in Israel is worth more than the whole Diaspora," Yitzhak Greenbaum, head of the Jewish Agency's "Rescue Committee" said. http://www.savethemales.ca/091202.html
48. TO # 40
hanzalah naji ali ,   al shajara   (10.09.06)
dear great alexandar, I agree with u, about hitech, and TA high percentage, but as I am living in Israel who know well about Israel economy its not Rosey shape, check the percentage of poverty that announced by national insurance, go to the streets and see how many people looking in the waste for collecting empty bottles for 80 to 90 nis per day (usd 20) checks the figures of ministries, its really black, despite all the money that USA send it every year a large percentage living under poverty line, to ve a normal life in israel you need NIS 11000 monthly (aprox $2500), israel working as a special agent or guard to usa , first against soviet and now against what they named terror, but USA is not paying good, USA want to fight with the last Israeli, but Israel work as a cheap worker.
49. Remember...
(10.09.06)
Thus says the Lord GOD: When I gather the house of Israel from the peoples among whom they are scattered, and mainfest my holiness in them in the sight of the nations, then they shall settle on their own soil that I gave to my servant Jacob. They shall live in safety in it, and shall build houses and plant vineyards. They shall live in safety, when I execute judgements upon all their neighbors who have treated them with contempt. And they shall know that I am the LORD their God.
50. Come home baby, Do not worry, Only we three are Iranians;
(10.10.06)
Katsav, Mufaz, and Haluz .
51. and Iranian singer Rita; for your entertainment
(10.10.06)
we love iranians
52. re: jerusalem, no such place
chanan ben reuven ,   jerusalem   (10.10.06)
hey adam, why blame the jewish agency for everything? the brochure you are referring to was put out by the jerusalem municipality and not the jewish agency.see www.jewishagency.org and you`ll see that the jewish agency is a professional outfit!!
53. Greetings
HHK ,   Singapore   (10.10.06)
Just ignore the negative feedback by Fadi. Outsiders are more objective. Some people are so blinded by racial hatred that they would selectively use information to support their agenda. By objectively studying history, any rational gentile would support Israel. No other country has ever achieved such military feats compared to Israel, such as the 6 day war and Yom Kippur War. All these happened when Israel was being attacked and Israel was just minding its own business.
54. To Fadi
NYC Girl   (10.10.06)
You spew out so much bullshit, I feel like I need to be wearing hip boots just to read your posts. My husband's great-grandparents left Iraq around the time of the first World War...long before there was a State of Israel. They left luxurious homes and thriving businesses to live in Israel with 7 and 8 people in a room. Don't tell me they weren't forced to flee by the Arabs. And as far as that so-called demographic time bomb is concerned, there has already been plenty of backpedaling because it turns out that warning was exaggerated and there has been a significant drop in the Israeli Arab birthrate...which I'm sure must be a great disappointment to you.
55. Dreamer
Eran ,   Reut   (10.10.06)
Bielski, sweet dreams. First Israel should take care of poverty at home before bringing in an influx of immigrants.
56. #52 Jlem, no such place.
Adam Admati ,   Israel   (10.10.06)
OK, the Municipality, then... still never employing any native English speakers... nor any PR firm, and JAFI still has no Anglos in important positions. The Board of Governors likes it that way... since that would make it easier for them to hear about all the wasted billions.
57. To 46
Shai ,   Israel   (10.10.06)
Muslims do one act of kindness and Muslims ascribe 1000 acts of their own treachery and terrorism as exceptions. Jews do one act of treachery, and Muslims ascribe 1000 acts of Jewish kindness as an exception to the rule. That sums up how you see the world, Hanzalah, and how your compatriots see it. The fact is that the Jewish Agency failed to allow Jews who came here to manifest their Jewish traditions and culture here, because they were being run by socialist idealists. The same social idealism also caused Pan Arabism to make mistakes. But don't make this mistake, Hanzalah, the Jews kicked out of Arab lands were kicked out because Arabs kicked them out, a population which by the way was frequently in their lands before even Arabs were. They didn't need the Jewish Agency to convince them they were in danger. If you read the links I sent in my last reply, you'll see that there were blood libels, pogroms and property confiscations even before Israel was established. This is a blot on your record, not on ours.
58. To No. 47, Observer
NYC Girl   (10.10.06)
You've given yourself away by linking to a site belonging to someone who agrees with the Naturei Karta, who are nothing more than a bunch of demented religious fanatics. I don't care how many PhDs this guy has, if he can't figure out what the NK is all about, he has absolutely no credibility. And Barry Chamish is nothing more than a conspiracy theorist. I've read some of his stuff and he sounds like a refugee from the John Birch Society. Perhaps, next time, you should try to be more selective in choosing your allies.
59. To Rachel, #4
Joan ,   Haifa   (10.10.06)
Is that all aliya is about, in your estimation? Getting a fresh start in a new place? Gee, Toto, I guess the idealism/Zionism of the people I knew in NAAM (the North American Aliya Movement) was all imaginary. I certainly have nothing against Australia, but I do believe you're seriously misinformed.
60. To Hanzala Naji Ali, #7
Jasmin ,   Haifa   (10.10.06)
That was *one* article about *one* unhappy man. Do you always jump to conclusions about everything so quickly?
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