Opinion  Sever Plocker
Stalin's Jews
Sever Plocker
Published: 21.12.06, 23:35
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121. Stalinist anti-Semitism
Stefan ,   Tel Aviv   (12.23.06)
It seems that most of the writers are totally unaware that the Bolshevik revolution turned to become one of the most anti-Semitic enterprises of all times. There were a lot of Jews involved in the original revolution, which promised equality and banning of anti-Semitism. However, when Stalin won the power early on, Jews were purged en masse. The accused in Stalins most prominent show trials were almost totally Jews. Describing the Stalin communist era as a good period for Jews is about as truthful as the Stalinist history writing in general. It was just a little bit better than the holocaust.
122. Stalin's Jews
michael mazur ,   brunswick, australia   (12.23.06)
Wow ! And in a Jewish publication ? I would be very, very surprised if it also appeared in the Australian Jewish News - Melb edition; having known them well for more than 10 years. So, so, pro Israel they are, more than Israelis.
123. stefan # 121
charles ,   petach tikva   (12.23.06)
The big difference between stalinism and nazism , the latter wanted to annihilate the Jewish people physically , the stalinist , althought very antisemite , wanted mostly to delete the Jewish being and thought . I do not deny of course the different anti Jewish "processes" in the USSR and satelittes . This antisemitism and , later on , anti Israel politics , contributed much to the loss of pro soviet sympathy among the Jewish left . You wrote ...was just a little bit better .....I would write , ....a little bit lesser evil .... Nuance !
124. Quote from Stefan
Michael ,   Oxford U.K.   (12.23.06)
Quote by Stefan "It seems that most of the writers are totally unaware that the Bolshevik revolution turned to become one of the most anti-Semitic enterprises of all times." That's totally untrue, the Jewish hold on Communism in the USSR was not broken until the times of Kruschev. Indeed anti-semitism was actually made illegal by Stalin. The very reason for the anti-semitism was because of the genocide of Christians. An example of where "anti-semitism" was totally justified.
125. Thanks, Mr. Plocker
Dave ,   New York, NY   (12.23.06)
One is reading this sort of thing quite frequently since the Internet has become available. The point isn't to spill the beans on who did what; it's to observe what happened, why and to prevent it happening again. I was a Liberal Democrat and all I want to do now is to restrict government power, because government empowers unbridled lunacy, resulting in unbridled destruction.
126. Jesus, Marx, Trotzky, etc
Itzik ,   Haifa   (12.23.06)
We, Jews, do not consider them Jews. They and their followers were huge anti-Semites and hated everything Jewish. Of course, Stalin used Jews until the Second World War because he did not trust 100% his Russian subjects. He also used many more Muslems. Most of the lower ranks in KGB were Muslems because he liked their brutality. Hitler actually liked Stalin (read Goebells dairy). He simply thought that Germans are better than Russians. Of course Stali, like Hitler were anti-Semites. He kept one Jew (Kaganovich) in his cabinet and liked to make anti-Semitic jokes about him (read Khrushchev book). After 1945 everything changed because the number of Jews fell dramatically and Stalin decided to get rid of all Jew and send them into a far away province of Sibirea. All the Jews had Russian wifes/husbands and were millitant atheists like current Israeli communists.
127. Thank-You to the Jews
C.B. ,   Strasburg   (12.23.06)
Weighed in the balances of history the Jew has been a blessing to the world ,despite some very bad apples. Ever look at how many Jewish Nobel prize winners there have been compared to any other ethnicity? I for one Thank the Jews for their contribution. "...I will bless them that bless thee and curse them that curse thee..."
128. Hitler, FDR, Churchill, Stalin were Jews
Steve ,   Michigan   (12.23.06)
All of these leaders were at least part Jewish. Churhill's mother was Jewish. FDR real name, Roosenfelt, Dutch Jew. Stalin had 3 Jewish wives and himself Jewish. Hitler was at least a quarter Jewish but could be more. All of these leaders take some blame in starting WWII. They all wanted war. So, blame the Jews for the death of 400,000 Jews that died during WWII, not Gentiles. The Gentiles don't complain constantly about the 40 million Gentiles that the Jews murdered in the Soviet Holocaust.
129. Djugashvili = Stalin
Cormac ,   Australia   (12.23.06)
Stalin was Jewish,his wives were all Jewish. About time you Jews were MADE to face the real genocide and stop the bolshevik commie lies !
130. media control
Cormac   (12.23.06)
That's easy to answer , jews own and operate the mass media ,they can over time brainwash millions of people and turn them into sheeple. That is all changing however and if I were a jew I'd start to reconcile with the facts and own up or things are going to get really really ugly.
131. stalins Yews
w shetler ,   canada   (12.23.06)
I knew about this from my ukrainian friend whose familiy was wiped out. It takes guts to tell the truth and report the facts. In todays world where any article written which might be considered critical of Yews or Israel politics a writer is risking his career and reputation. No subject is more feared and more often gaged than factual critisizm of the yews. Thank you for your courage.
132. Ideology
John Hanks ,   Laramie, Wyoming   (12.23.06)
The last century was called the age of ideology for good reason. Jews, Christians, and Muslims became ideologues because they needed some sort of certainty as a substitute for religion. To treat Judaism, Christianity, etc. as if they were genetic is to take the point of view of Hitler and his understanding of "genetics". The truth has more to do with the fact that societies elevate people with blockheaded characteristics to positions of power. It is cultural not religious or genetic.
133. how come so many neo nazi read ynet!?
megi ,   london   (12.23.06)
and yes you are right everything is about to change. scared?
134. What Does it All Mean?
Bereleh ,   Canada   (12.23.06)
So, the Jews, Christians, Muslims and Atheists each took turns to butcher millions of people over the centuries. To be singled out for persecution for the crimes of our ancestors was, is, and will always be the end result. This is the world we live in. All I know is I didn't kill anyone but they will point at me anyway and call me names and maybe make me pay a price. How do we get out of this horrible cycle? I'm talking about ALL religions.
135. look at the anti jew replies,makes me sick
a Jew   (12.23.06)
Its hard to construe why the author thought writing this article would have any worth. To attempt to bring some massive revelation about how some so called Jews perpertrated massacres on others and from it bring personal responsibility of our people. Quite perplexing. If you could ask those who committed these atrocities as to whether they were Jews what do you think they would answer? Ask yourself could any of these so called jews have been brought up on chumash, rashi and a bit of gemara or any jewish education or values at all? Of course not you would say and they themselves would agree. They would never have even seen themselves as jews and quite happy to persecute and massacre jews themselves. But somehow you feel the need to include them as in our own - our people committed these atrocities whilst they themselves would never have seen themselves part of the jewish fold. Maybe you think by writing this piece youd show the world how enlightened and beautiful we jews are? I think not, we all know the value of this article is only to serve those who have to justify their hatred for our people, and you gave them sustinence. Well done? If I take anything from this article is how we Jews have to fear and be most weary of those leftists communists or bolsheviks within our own ranks TODAY. Translated today that includes Peres, Beilin, Peretz, Sarid, Bar on etc. etc. Those that have nothing but disdain for our culture and heritage. We saw firsthand what these so called jews are capable of instigating expulsion of jews in Gush Katif (not since the nazis has this ever been done), brutal violence in Armona and on horseback like cossacs, administrative detention (prison) of underage girls, orders seperating families, false imprisonment etc. etc. Are they Jews? Perhaps accidents by birth but in values most certainly not. Yes of course we have plenty trash amongst our own, our own current government is a case in point, our own media Ynet included. Does that mean the world is justified seeking the destruction and elimination of the entire Jewish people? Of course not ......but this article helps them to further their cause, does it not?
136. Stalin & the Jews
Boris ,   Toronto   (12.23.06)
The truth hurts sometimes, do your research, communist jews invented the Gulag and administered it. Hitler learned from them how to annihilate a people. Do not forget the Gulag was invented during Lenin's time, by the Berman brothers. History tells the truth not revisionist history.
137. good to see that not all Jews are fanatics...
Piotr ,   Gdansk, POLAND   (12.23.06)
... seeng a straw in every-other's eye but no log in their own. Perhaps there's still some hope for mutual understanding. Thanks a lot for this text! (Still, those comments below are so seek that it's scary.)
138. #114, Do you genetic test, pronto
AK   (12.23.06)
you may find out that your grandmother’s grandfather was also a Jew and then the Israeli Jews will have to apologize for you as well. Far fetched? Not really. Where do you think all those converted Jews disappeared if not into general gentile population? If you were to find out that one of your ancestors was genetically a Jew, would you classify yourself as a Jew? Don’t you find it amazing that despite proclamations of not being anti-Semitic, the world is digging into the ancestry of every monster to find a Jew. Why don’t you dig into Ahmedinejad and Hussain and see if you can find a Jew somewhere – after all giving the ancient presence of Jews in Babylonia and Persia it is not as far fetched as you think. Even Saudi Arabia has genetic ‘Jews,’ the descendants of the women and children taken slaves or ‘married’ by force by Mohammad and his Arabs in Medina. You see, there are Jews everywhere, in almost everybody, if you want to dig deep enough. The question is: is it relevant to anything unless you want to analyze pathologies within opressed minorities after a prolonged exposure to hostility?
139. The charge of Nepotism
(12.23.06)
More horrible than Hypocrisy or Partisanship.
140. fess up judah
bill ,   cali   (12.23.06)
if you can't accept the truth,everbody can be a killer, just takes hate and jews have alot of that towards others,get a clue your not pefect. treats of pulling advertisments just proves your deniel.
141. Irving is right after all
John ,   London,UK   (12.23.06)
Does this means that David Irving is right after all. Yesterday he said Jews did cause all the wars. He was admiring Mel Gibson who claims that Jews are behind everything bad that happens in this world. Arabs already suspepct the Jews did 9/11 and 7/7, and even killed Russian spy London. Lot of people tend to believe that Jews plot terror. This kind of article only confirms their suspicions.
142. Right on Sever Plocker!
Richard ,   New York, USA   (12.23.06)
I couldn't believe I was reading YNET news. It's always nice to hear the truth for a change. There are many YNET readers who don't want to hear the truth, because they are use to hearing lies and coverup when Jews do something wrong; and besides, they don't think it's a big deal to kill "Goyim" (non-Jews) since they are just two-legged animals in human form, according to Talmudic Rabbis. Consider yourself lucky that no one called you an anti-semite for speaking the truth. And this is just the tip of the iceberg. There are many more truthful stories to come that are going to bring great pain to the Jewish people.
143. suffered enough?
reynald bell ,   Chicago.U S   (12.23.06)
Suffering,indeed:you appear to be rampantly reigning in Israel. Are the palestinians victims of the victims of the Nazis?Hmmmmm
144. Mr. Plocker
Bill Myers ,   USA   (12.23.06)
Thanks for making people squirm with the uncomfortable truth.
145. #37 Piotr, does Poland take full credit for Dzierzynski?
AK   (12.23.06)
he was the first head of Cheka and your compatriot, and with plenty of blood on his hands (in thousands? millions?). Should a list of all Poles doing nasty deeds be published for the enlightment of all? Funny coming from the land of Jedwabne. Are we to blame ALL Poles for Jedwabne and places like that (and there were many? As I said, all this flawed article has done is put 'paid in full' for the Holocaust and 1000 years of expulsions, pogroms and discrimination, without getting deeper into the true evil of totalitarian monstrosity Communism turned out to be everywhere on this planet. There are real lessons to learn from it for ALL those on the Left and far Right. BTW, did you really think that ALL Jews are fanatics? Why?
146. You thought Holocaust memorials were about human rights
Eric Vaughan ,   Toronto,Canada   (12.23.06)
Don't worry about it, I used to believe in santa.
147. Ever heard of Israeli Communist party
Ilan ,   Ariel   (12.23.06)
That and it's allied groups like Peace Now are the direct continuation of Stalin's Jews.
148. Neo-Nazis and Bolsheviks
Stefan ,   Tel Aviv   (12.23.06)
It is truly astonishing to see how many outright neo-Nazis appear to read Ynet. What has to be wrong in a persons head to preach outright lies with such a fervor. Writings in Knesset about non-Jews?? I’ll provide a monetary prize to anybody showing me that text. Stalin was a Jew like Nelson Mandela was a member in the Ku Klux Klan. Hitler was a Jew!! Even more hilarious. About the Bolshevik Jews, these are the facts: Bolshevik party central committee had nine members in 1917 of which 3 were Jews. Among the 23 peoples commissars between 1923–1930, there were twelve Russians, five Jews, two Georgians (Stalin and Ordzhonikidze), one Pole, one Moldavian, one Latvian, and one Ukrainian. In 1922, of the 44,148 members of the Bolshevik party that had joined before 1917 (the Old Guard, as Lenin referred to them) 7.1% were Jewish. The situation of the Jews started to decline immediately after the revolution. By 1927 Jews were practically eliminated and by 1940 Jewish influence in the leadership was non-existent. The only Jew to survive was Kaganovitz.
149. Tikum Olam
Clinias ,   Battle Creek, Michig   (12.23.06)
Race is a basis for much of what goes on. Jews have a "Messiah complex". They have what is called "Tikhum Olam" (I may have spelled it wrong.) It is about "fixing the World". Communism was this "Fixing the World". Socialism, Communism and Fascism has all this allure to the Jew for it seeks the "Fixing of the World". Eric von Kuenhelt-Leddihn wrote an article back in the 40's of why Jews are attracted to Communism. This is a basic racial element. Nazism was a reaction to Communism. Hitler was enthralled with Social Democracy which was promoted and defined by Jewish intellectuals. Nazism can only be seen as a reaction to Communism and a brother to Social Democracy. This is why true orthodox Christianity is so opposed to Communism and Socialism. Another factor which another reader pointed out was "Kharma"---What goes around comes around. Jewish Communists of the Weimar Republic were about to introduce Leninist protocols in a once Christian Germany---It backfired on them. And Jewish Americans declared war on Germany in 1932. Zionism wanted "troubles" in Europe in order to force a Jewish state. There is justice in the World after all.
150. Jews as atheists
tigerman ,   Denver, CO   (12.23.06)
When Jews become atheists they stop becoming Jews. They stop upholding all the precepts and examples of higher moral ground. Yes Jews carried out exterminations for Stalin And .Zionism-a Godless, secular, terrorist network-continues to lead Jews astray just as Communism did. If you separate God from being Jewish you have nothing but hate and vile for others it seems-anyone not part of the collective psychosis that is Zionism.
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