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American researcher claims 'Jews smarter, it's genetic'
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Published: 11.04.07, 17:03
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61. Tiffany USA
charles ,   Petach tikva   (04.11.07)
If your saying is true , explain why so many of the USA Nobel laureates are Jewish ? They all live in the same environnement , have the same possibilities , but Jewish are more succesful than the non Jewish . Can you explain ?
62. Jewish culture encourages questions
Chaim ,   Canada   (04.11.07)
You know the term "two Jews three opinions". Jewish history is that of analysing the Torah and Talmud. Questions and innovation was encouraged. The most sought after groom was the ‘Talmid Chacham’ - a wise student. Therefore, it's not the IQ but the diligence and valuing wisdom. Also, the Christians did themselves a disservice by sentencing their best and brightest to celibacy in the priesthood.
63. Raymond, Keren, Patrick, Mike
Adam ,   USA   (04.11.07)
This is Social Darwinism -- junk science. We've seen many forms of it before and it's usually used against us. I am very proud of my Judaism, but not because I think I am part of a "master race". As Jews we belong to a covenant, and how good, or smart, or how virtuous we are really depends solely upon our own abilities and actions in this life. That's really all I'm saying. See : http://ehyeh-asher-ehyeh.blogspot.com/
64. Gentile from Lebanon
Barry ,   Tokyo   (04.11.07)
You forget to mention no more rocket attacks from the north, UN intervention into your sorry nation of fools, and finally 400 hizbollah dead with its leader continuing to hide in a spiderhole. not bad for "idiots" as you say. Even Olmert was able to cause you this damage. In the end, Arab stupidity contributed to another war. By the way, the only muslim Arab who got a nobel prize was Arafat - Nobel prize for murdering civilians. You must be real proud... haha
65. Not surprising
Brod ,   USA   (04.11.07)
This is not surprising because GOD blessed the Jewish people through their forefathers--Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Read Genesis. GOD intended them to be a blessing to the world.
66. 63 - who said being chosen = superiorior?
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (04.11.07)
if i recall, god chose israel not for her merits or because she deserved anything, but for her pitiful state. take away his blessing and you are average. being blessed/chosen is a reflection of god's goodness, certainly not because of anything jews ever did. jews succeed like the article describes not because they are better than anyone else. success comes from god's unmerited promises.
67. If IQ is valid, then men are much smarter than women!
NSW ,   NY, USA   (04.11.07)
This seems like a far more interesting fact. See the BBC article, excerpted below, reporting this "fact." Phrenology, anyone? Men cleverer than women' claim Students. Who will get a first? Academics in the UK claim their research shows that men are more intelligent than women. A study to be published later this year in the British Journal of Psychology says that men are on average five points ahead on IQ tests. Paul Irwing and Professor Richard Lynn claim the difference grows when the highest IQ levels are considered. Their research was based on IQ tests given to 80,000 people and a further study of 20,000 students.
68. Black Athletes
Harold F ,   Irvine CA   (04.11.07)
And the flip side is why are blacks such great athletes. And the same reason is given. They're genetically suited for it. See Taboo: Why Blacks Dominate Athletics by John Entine.
69. Sadat
Harold F ,   Irvine CA   (04.11.07)
#64 is incorrect. Sadat received the Nobel Peace prize with Begin.
70. Yeah they're so smart the built their country on muslim land
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71. The Jewish I.Q. would probably be 10 points higher
jason white ,   afula,israel   (04.11.07)
if he did not figure in the voters for kadima/labor. olmert,peretz,livni and peres alone pulled it down by four points.
72. Women have low IQs, Paqid's is high!
NSW ,   NY, USA   (04.11.07)
There's substantial IQ and Nobel Prize evidence to indicate that men are far smarter than women. And Paqid 16 is a genius according to his site! IQ says it all! (Sorry for this, but: NOT!:))
73. 66 - Mike
Adam ,   USA   (04.11.07)
So what you believe is the Jewish version of the Christian doctrine of pre-destination ; all of humanity is either "saved" or "unsaved". This is not Judaism. Being "chosen" is not all "take" and no "give". Judaism is a covenantial religion. And our actions are of equal importance to God's favor. Remember, we can either serve Sitra Achra, or we can bring about "Tikkun Olam". God wants us to do the latter, but ultimately, it is our choice. God said "you shall be holy", not "you are holy". But maybe we digress.
74. jewish art and music#40
solemnman ,   nahariya   (04.11.07)
I'd like to congratulate #40 on his courage in displaying his naked ignorance of the subject upon which he has offered his opinion.The following is a very incomplete list of formidable Jewish achievers in music and art: Mahler,Copland ,Gershwin,Bernstein ,Reich,Rogers,Kern,Glass,Dukas, Lerner,Berlin,Dillon,Weil,Offenbach, Shoenberg, Simon,Bloch, Mendellsohn , Lichtenstein,Nevelson,Guston, Rothko,Pissaro,Kitaj,Segal, Soutine,Chagal,Epstein,Lipschitz,, Modigliani ,Manray, to name just a few.
75. Why doesn't genius Paqid have a job?
Lisa ,   Hillsdale, US   (04.11.07)
He doesn't seem to, since he appears to spend his days writing Talkbacks.
76. Ramblings by the number
John Cunningham ,   Haverford, PA, USA   (04.11.07)
#10, One Other Point, excellent point, I tend to believe it's nurture not nature #14, On the other hand....sport, except for mismanagement with the Hezbully war, the IDF kicks ass #30, Ignorant & Subjective, hate to admit it, 'hey, I resemble that remark' #35, It's in the Quran, ever occur to you that that's the problem (Sorry, I couldn't resist) #40, ...ART either, Frank Zappa was Jewish and Bob Dylan, also
77. Jews Smarter
sharon shore ,   usa   (04.11.07)
It may well be that Jews are smarter, but what we gain in intelligence, we more then make up for in lack of sechel
78. Jew Hate is partialy based on the differential
malcolm   (04.12.07)
The difference is easily observed on college campuses in the uS where anti-Israel/Jewish sentiments are running high. It's hard for Gentile Professors to lash out at their Jewish competitors so they use Israel as the venue to express their hatred.
79. and the punch line is . . .
Steve G ,   Kew Gardens, NY, USA   (04.12.07)
the logical conclusion of the article is, of course: It's not that Jews are any smarter , it's just that everyone else is even dumber than the Jews.
80. DIFFICULT TO ACCEPT FOR WEAK MINDS
ANA MARIA ,   LATIN AMERICA   (04.12.07)
EVERYBODY SHOULD KNOW THAT JEWS ARE SMART AND TALENTED. ALL THE NOBEL PRICES ARE GOOD EXAMPLES
81. If you say you're the smartest kid in your school,
Lord Smartingford ,   Chicago, USA   (04.12.07)
you'd better be the strongest, too.
82. to 13
immad   (04.12.07)
not for being political, he was smart enough to realize how bad of an idea is creating israel....sure he's proud of his judaism as he should be, a jew does not=israel, or mean sympathy to it.... as much as u may yearn for otherwise. As for muhammad's as u said "by today's standards".... he married her young to recite his teaching as a young bright mind but who am i or u to criticize god's ultimate plans....i could easily say David was a weasle or traitor for sending his general to die in a war so he can have his wife, oh and by the way a weasle by his own days standards too...but who knows god works in mysterious ways as they say......
83. #s 27, 36, 43 on einstein
rami   (04.12.07)
yes einstein was on the board & established hebrew university & bequethed his royalties to it & he was a proud jew as should he, BUT he still did not think the jewish identity should be confined within the partition of palestine cause that would be detrimental to judaism so just cause he supported jews, does not make him a supporter of the ideal of israel, on the contrary, furthermore, he criticized Begin in a letter to UN for the Der Yassin massacre in 48. Wish israel's politicians had an atom of his decency.
84. Jewish brains
EA ,   USA   (04.12.07)
I notice there aren't many Nobel Prize winners coming out of Israel ...has the gene pool been exhausted?
85. the quran comments
Ali ,   Lobnan   (04.12.07)
the two sons of Ibrahim PBUH were described as the following .. ismail ...the oldest ..was described as HALIM ....in arabic means patient and wide chested and forgivable ...and that is how the sons of ismail are .. Isaac ..was described as ALEEM means Knowlegable ..and that is how his sons and descendents .. they eager to seek knowledge .... now here is the trick ...knowledge is onething and arrogance and cheating is another thing ..actually they are mutually exclusive .
86. white and asians = highest IQ, what is "gentile"
chad ,   USA   (04.12.07)
Asians as a group tend to have the highest IQ, followed by white Europeans. Assuming most of the "Jews" he's talking about are euro-asiatic it would make sense from a biological perpective. Number of Nobel Prizes is not a proof of IQ, just a proof of accomplishment. This article is not scientific and looks like something you'd see on a white pride website.
87. Nothing new about this
Harold F ,   Irvine CA   (04.12.07)
There is nothing about this except that it is in Commentary magazine. Kevin MacDonald is a professor of evolutionary psychology at California State University at Long Beach and is the author of a trilogy on Jews called A People That Shall Dwell Alone, Separation and It's Discontents, and The Critique of Culture. He is not as flattering about Jewish intelligence as Murray. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_B._MacDonald His writings about the subject are on any white supremacist site.
88. I m not surprise at all
e.m ,   s.f   (04.12.07)
Because the entire world believe in that, And it is the real reason of that much anti Semitisms all around the world, in other word Jealousy
89. You need a Statistical Approach
Abraham ,   Houston, TX   (04.12.07)
An almost imposibility, since there are too many variables. My own theory is that, similar to the Japanese, we are very demanding. A jewish child needs to learn the laws of the sabbath...., all of these complex ideas stimulate the brain at an early age. Remember, we are special because G-d chose use to be a beacon amoung the nations, not because we are smarter.
90. Jews Smarter
Jean ,   Martinsburg, USA   (04.12.07)
I have been reading your talkbacks for some time now. It appears many like to judge others without looking into who they are. I definately like the points Paqid 16 makes: they make logical sense. I have always told Yehudi persons I believe they are the smartest people on earth... looks like the genetic pool has favored them by taking the cream of the world crop.
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