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Racists among us
Tali Farkash
Published: 20.04.07, 07:49
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91. What did you expect dear Tali?
Marlene ,   New York City   (04.20.07)
You already live in a racist state where Jews have exclusive rights over all others, and now you complain about racism between a Pole and a Yemenite.?? Excuse me..but why don't you get to the essence of the racism. You are merely touching the surface.
92. #74 Uri Avnery
Kyle ,   Southpark, CO, USA   (04.20.07)
What makes you think that anybody cares what the Jew-hating communist Uri Avnery says about Israel's heritage? Uri Avnery hates everything about Israel especially the Jews who live there.
93. Mike
charles ,   petach tikva   (04.20.07)
For me you are not a Goy , i'll prefer to call you a Non Jew , it's more appropriate . You haven't to add Christian after your name , in your case it has no importance . This paqid adds Israeli orthodox Jew after his name because he tries to convince himself , and all the others , that he is . You probably know my opinion : he is a disguised Jew for jesus , a fake Jew , who tells everyone he is a converted goy , by an orthodox rabbi . In French i would say "mon oeil" what means that i do not believe this . So be openly what you are , be proud of it . I'm proud to belong to the Jewish people . Being proud to belong to a faith or people do not makes any of us a racist , we can and have to appreciate each other as Humans .
94. Mixed marriages....
M. Hartley ,   Atlanta, US   (04.20.07)
If, as a Canadian talkbacker pointed out not too long ago, there are successful and happy marriages between Schmohicans and Sosuemes, anything is possible :-)
95. C ; - 0
ben ,   singapore   (04.20.07)
Atilla, you boody fool, you can cheat yourself anymore, now come out of the assimilation self . You idiot Karaitis of Ankara. You will never be happy in Turkey. YOUR home is Israel. RETURN HOME ! MY last call to you, Idiot !
96. I agree with Kyle. Uri Avnery despises Jews and Israel
Jake   (04.20.07)
It is only a pity that he did not keep his original name, Helmut Ostermann. And by the way it was Jew-hating German 'anthropologists' who invented the synthetic term 'Semitic', not the Bible or the Jews, as a disparaging way to justify discrimination against Jews based on race instead of religion. And now that this false, misleading term exists, it is the Arabs who claim the right to call themselves the 'authentic Semites'? Please, give me a break.!
97. Sephardi Tahor
Steve ,   USA   (04.20.07)
For those of you in the US, rent the movie School Daze. Look up the slang terms High Yellow, Redbone, and Cocanut. For those of you in Israel who don't believe such discrimination is real, speak to my Sephardic father in law. He suffered terrible discrimination despite losing an eye defending all Jews in 1948.
98. 93 - amen to that!
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (04.20.07)
be who you are, love who you aren't, deal with the nuts as best as you can. this is what i like about israel - there's plenty of us nuts and we'll all get along, one way or another! shabbat shalom.
99. It makes no difference what color tali is
jason white ,   afula,israel   (04.20.07)
She is a dumb draft dodger!
100. Marlene, the mother of Fascistic bigotry,
Jake   (04.20.07)
Bolshevik-style fanaticism, and visceral, uncontrollable, spasmodic hatred of Israel is giving us a lecture about discovering the 'essence of racism'. That is fresh indeed.
101. Democrat from Tel Aviv, how about Tel Aviv's ranking
Jake   (04.20.07)
in the contributions to Israel's recent war effort against Hizbullah. I'll give you a clue. It's not in the top 6. That's what counts, not the bogus cliche worn-out Ashkenazi-Sephardic blah blah thing.
102. the israeli society is a racist one
dovdevan ,   ashdod , israel   (04.20.07)
what have changed since the 70's ? the ethiopians live in ghettos , the sephardim are almost the slave of the ashkenaze establishement !! the prices to study in prestigious schools or university are very high is it the fact of the hasard ? no the elite want to discriminate and impose a selection in order to keep the power in their hand and to push aside those who don't correspond to the color of their skin !! i call this kind of politic racism !!
103. to Paqid
Pumpkin Pie   (04.21.07)
Hello there. Please lighten up a little. Reuven Brauner made a funny joke using a play on words. Also, just a suggestion: maybe you want to make your talkbacks a little briefer. You might get more people reading them that way. I gave up after about 20 lines.
104. to the poster who mentioned Tali's hair standing on end....
(04.21.07)
remember, that's a wig she's wearing (This according to a previous article of hers on Ynet)
105. Bigoted State yields bigoted attitudes.
pAUL ,   Austin, USA   (04.21.07)
Since Medinat Yisrael has adopted the very same tactics used against Jews to isolate and criminalize simply being "Arab", it's only natural for bigotry to persist in the mainstream. I'll say it again: secular zionism has failed and will destroy the Jewish nation. This type of bigotry is the tip of the iceberg.
106. Abdullah
Aussie Jew ,   Australia   (04.21.07)
There is nothing wrong with being attracted to someone your own shade or culture at all. Some are attracted to the same, some to opposite. But it is wrong if one finds fault because of it. Prejudice based on skin colour/ethnicity has no place in Judaism full stop. And to those who keep bashing Haredim, it is just as much a secular issue; maybe more. It was Ben Gurion who said that they needed their blacks too, when encouraging ME Jews to make aliyah. Israel should be more vigilant and speak out against this type of persecution.
107. #70 I agree with you also!
kiwijew ,   New Zealand   (04.21.07)
Absolutely Mike, I see in our shul dozens of Ashkenazim who are much darker than my Sephardi husband and I know perfectly well that Indians etc are Caucasian/Aryan. I was simply making the point that most Ashkenazim believe this rubbish that they are all pale etc etc & therefore better. Jews are Jews & we need to live to a higher standard- that means being colour blind. This type of colour/ethnicity comparison is not acceptable in any civilised society & should be doubly unacceptable in the Jewish world.
108. Racists among us
Malka Maxwell ,   New York   (04.21.07)
I read through the talkbacks where everyone is either condeming or mocking the writer's point of view.I am shocked by the negative remarks made. Racism in Judaism is a serious issue. My own personal experiences of having people question my Jewishness due to the fact that from a demographical point of view I am in actuality a jew of color who is American born, and I was raised with Sephardic minhagim in an ashkenazi community that 20 years ago accused our family of not bein truly jewish for eating rice, etc during pesach...My parents spoke with the community's leaders...and they told my parents that yes they were aware of these minhagim...but they had never seen then...and therefore to be able to get their children married one day, they should change their minhagim to adjust to the community. My parents did just that. As an adult I have been able to "reclaim" my sefardic minhagim and teach my own children (who look white...with an ashkenazi last name) to be proud of their Jewishness no matter what! And I have introduced them to mizrachi/sefardic customs. I understand what this writer is complaining about. However, I think that many Jews regardless if they are in Israel or in any other Jewish community around the world, it does seem that the worst offenders are indeed the religious individuals. My personal belief is because those jews of European descendant do not fully comprehend that Jews are Jews by culture first and for most. NO matter where they have lived. Most Jews except the Europeans have made a very strict policy within their communities to not mix with non-Jews. The biggest offenders to that rule is the European Jews. The day that the European Jews can accept Judaism as it is: the Torah tha Moshe Rabainu gave us on Har Sinai, and they remember that the Torah is about dinim of ben adam l'chavaro as Hillel said, and that the rest is commentary .....klal yisrael will THEN be zoche to recieve Hashem's love for us and we will have geulah and a world peace. In the meantime, we neeed to continue to bring these issues to the Jewish public and have us look at ourselves as Jews and as the world will look at us and mirror our attempts at being better people. The various excuses are there...the world has changed. So must the people who continously preach this type of prejudice. Rabbis especially on both sects MUST use the respect that they have earned to teach their Jewish communitites the correct way without color lines. These great Rabbis are great because they possess a tremendous amount of knowledge. The knowledge and kavod Hashem blessed them with should and must be used to help us as a nation get better at those issues of ben adam lechavaero and continue to teach us the things that pertain to ben adam and hashem. COLOR MAKES NOT A JEW...I will happily defy any person who tells me differently...... oh and one more thing to those of you who will think to tell me that I am not a haredi....DON"T BOTHER!!!! I AM!!!
109. Divide and Conquer
Michael U ,   SF.CA   (04.21.07)
Dont you all see what Ynetnews.com is trying to do. I have been reading this rag for almost 2 years now and I have seen a pattern very clearly. This site must be run by anti-religious anti-Jewish and anti-Israel agents. Just look at the editorial bias in virtually every article. What Ynetnews.com attempts to do is create divisive headlines which will cause the Jews to commit Lashon Hara, a sin which is very very serious. One Jew speaks against a fellow Jew, who then speaks against another Jew and so on and so on. I propose that anyone reading my post boycott this site. Do not read it for a month, dont read the stories and dont write any talkbacks. I suspect that this will benefit the reader. Every time I read this site it depresses me greatly, to see the machlokes caused by such an evil bunch as Ynetnews.com . This site is most certainly evil, causing brothers and sisters to quarell and call names. I am SICK of this and want this to stop, I realize that the CENSORS at ynet may not publish this post, but in the interest of DEMOCRATIC FREEDOM OF SPEECH, please publish this.
110. Miss good ole days when Litvaks wouldn't marry Glitzianers
diamond ,   USA   (04.21.07)
"Humorless scholars'" or "horse thieves"..ahhhh, the good ole days. Got news for ya there are differences. Doesn't mean you should discriminate against Sephardim, not at all! But don't pretend we're all the same, we're not. Israel, on my last trip, reminded me of a Jewish Puerto Rico, macho, dago-T's, and too-tight halter tops on top of bulging skirts. Could've been Washington Heights :) I think we all recognize the power struggles are basically economic, not over black hair vs blond. The degraded single Sephardic 18 year old mother in Be'ersheva is also poor, uneducated, and culturally has more in common with Arabs.... food, music, mannerisms... then any son-of-a-yekke living in Rishon. Just one man's opinion.
111. Tali Farkash, can you be mine?
Franck ,   france   (04.21.07)
112. I suggest everyone read Dr. Seuss' "The Sneetches"
Little Miss Muffett ,   Sitting on a Tuffett   (04.21.07)
113. Racists among us
Sandeep Katiyar ,   New Delhi, India   (04.21.07)
Shalom Tali, Its really sad/shocking for me to hear that such things happen in developed countries also. I agree with your views, as in India, its the same problem where people are differentiated/discriminated on the basis of their Religion/Caste/Colour etc., but the problem is that if you try to push this topic furhter or you try to go against such customs (obviously man made not created by God) you will lasheh back by the fundamentalists. There's no solution to this problem, One has to live with such customs. Regards Sandeep
114. You are not King David's children
Yonatan Schwatrz ,   Vienna   (04.21.07)
You ultraorthodox society would make Moshe rabbeinu feel guilty, ashamed, and want to bury himself. You have nothing of our brave forefathers and defenders, you are not children of King David, but of an irrelevant lower middle class of weak thinkers for centuries. There is only one jewish people, remember that and go hide somewhere, filthy racists.
115. TALI,
MIXED BLOOD   (04.21.07)
YOUR "SUNTAN" CERTAINLY LOOKS HOT TO ME!!
116. Tali's really cute
Papagino ,   USA   (04.21.07)
117. Inter Jewish Racism Exists
semsem ,   New York, USA   (04.21.07)
Let us be honest. Inter Jewish racism does exist, though it is less now than 50 years ago. And before the holocaust the Ashkenazis looked down on the Sepharads and the Sepharads looked down on the Ashkenazis.
118. #37 from Germany: We don't gas each other
Laila ,   Montreal, Canada   (04.21.07)
#37 from Germany: you are surprised that Jews who suffered are racist among each other? Racism exists throughout the world unfortunately. At least we do not gas each other. And you West Germans are even racist towards the East Germans who look like you.
119. #118 we don't gas each other
Marty ,   OZ   (04.21.07)
But you cause someone to run away to the other side of the world, because he wouldn't take crap from ashkenaz elitists. Here, I am a clever Jew, scientist and inventor. In your doomed country I was treated as a frank (sephardi) not to be taken seriously
120. From Ashkenazi
Ray Ashkenazi ,   Netanya, Israel   (04.21.07)
Tali, don't talk nonsense! You know I love you.
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