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Shas MK proposes 'rehab centers' for gays
Amnon Meranda
Published: 21.06.07, 15:14
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31. Men dancing with men
Moshe ,   Israel   (06.21.07)
Men dancing with men. Women dancing with women. When was the last time he was at a haredi wedding?
32. rehab for religious mks
kooljew ,   tel aviv   (06.21.07)
i think all the shas mks and their ilk nead rehab to stop them from stealing from the public. how many are in jail already??? and for perverting a beautiful religion that even im disgusted at right now. lehiyot am chofshi beatzenu- to be a free people in a free country. please as a country lets please learn some tolerence and love and light - the gays having nothing to be ashamed of but the religious closeted cases all over jerusalem who prey on yeshiva boys and troll the central bus station and parks do-
33. To #24 Nothing's been proven
Josh ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (06.21.07)
... unless you ignore exceptions and complicating factors, and make assumptions about cause and affect, like these "scientific" studies do. Gimme a break. Even among identical twins, with the same genes, and same conditions while growing in the womb, only a minority both turn out both homosexual! What should that tell us?
34. #8,,rashid
Nemesis   (06.21.07)
You're hilarious,Rashid..believe me!
35. Shas Betrayed the Nation of Israel & Eat Pork
malcolm   (06.21.07)
They stayed in the government in order to eat Olmert's pork. But when it comes to gays they can't protest enough. Which is worse...gays or Olmert? They obviously are more afraid of 2,000 gays than Ahmadinejad. Or is it that once they tasted Olmert's pork they can't get nough?
36. What a shame!
Eric ,   Toronto   (06.21.07)
If it were up to people like Nissim Zeev, Israel would be no different than Iran and other backwards countries. It is amazing that when forward looking countries like Canada have made gays equal to others in every social aspect including marriage, politicians in a "supposedly" modern and democratic country like Israel should even consider such backwards "solutions" agains the gay community. What a shame!
37. #20 A Further Clarification On Talkback #2
Bill Foonman ,   Jacksonville, USA   (06.21.07)
My talkback was quite explicit but let me elaborate. If the Haredim spent less time practising bigotry, ignorance, criticizing others and hiding behind their religious ideals, they could spend more time doing what real Israelis do - protecting bookworms like themselves from being slaughtered.
38. This man is very sympathetic
Ruhi el Khatib ,   Saudia   (06.21.07)
and understanding. In my country these "Gays" would not be tolerated. If we discover one he is asked to leave quietly and take his crime somwhere else. The family is ashamed and sometimes even kill them. If they do not leave or are killed by the family, they will"disappear". No questions asked.
39. Marx
Guy ,   Israel   (06.21.07)
Religion is the opiate of the masses. Shas and the Haredim are the pushers. The pushers are bigger fish than the users and by far more dangerous. They should be in detention and under constant supervision. Very dangerous members of society. Certainly in dire need of rehab. although I have my doubts as to the possibilty of them being able to return to mainstream.
40. To #36 - Progress is a circle
Josh ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (06.21.07)
When you progess too far, you end up back where you started. Ever notice that as the West gets more and more liberal, its social and psychological problems worsen? That when the polls come in, depression is increasing at the expense of happiness? And then what happens? In desperation people build new religions and cults and subcultures all over again to try to cope. And when you look at societies throughout history, you see that when they get too liberal and decadent and elevate hedonism above all, they weaken and fall under the tide of the stronger nations and groups around them. And mind you, the agenda of Judaism is not simply to be different from other religions. There's no reason why they couldn't get a few things right, especially when they base their religions on ours! Complaining that rabbis are like mullahs or that Israel is like Iran is just a childish way of avoiding the actual issues.
41. I think the rehab idea is FABULOUS!
Ernie ,   Kiryat Bialik   (06.21.07)
42. Please tell me none of my money is going to this nut-job
Taxpayer ,   Israel   (06.21.07)
43. #10
Tif ,   New Jersey, USA   (06.21.07)
Silly little man.....Hashem will greet you and others like you with a smile that a parent gives a child when they don't know better. It was written that there should be no forcible men laying with men, and actually nothing written of the ladies. When any two adults enter into a healthy, satisfying, true relationship Hashem has made his blessings known. I am grateful that my gorgeous, smart, funny Jewish girlfriend of 2 years doesn't have to bow to silly Jewish men like you who can't be bothered to think for themselves and instead use interpretations as a crutch for their inferiority.
44. #8 - Rashid - Do you have a wife?
Richard   (06.21.07)
More than one? Are they all in "their places"? So, what have you been doing lately? You don't sound very habby.
45. Fear of Gays
Jewish Grandma ,   Jerusalem   (06.22.07)
I think Mr Ze'ev has mixed fear and hate with something that may be a good idea, Jewish gays are our brothers and we need to help them, I think a place for people that wanted to stop being gay has nothing to do with being homophobic, on the contrary. I know for a fact of several religious young men that have been helped by psychologists to change their sexual preferences or at least to live a normal life and to have a family. What;s wrong with that? As lomg as it is done out of love for our people and not out of fear and hate
46. #45 - Hey Grandma, what's wrong with it....
Andy ,   ramat hasharon   (06.22.07)
is that your "ex-gay" friends, if they are like the ones I see secreting aroung Jerusalem and Tel Aviv, having anonymous sex instead of a meaningful relatinship with a person of the same sex, have a very abnormal life. There are lots of well adjusted, nonpermiscuous, happy gay men in solid relationships. Too bad your friends have forfeighted the possibility of being truly happy.
47. Build rehab centres at once!
Cindy ,   US   (06.22.07)
I think rehab centres are long overdue. They need to address these issues: the harm caused to others the anger they will bring down from Hashem the brainwashing of our children the violence caused by this group the obsession with certain kinds of sexual behaviour Yep, I firmly believe that there need to be rehab centres for chareidim if they insist upon acting with sinat chinam and trying to do physical and spiritual harm to others. Let the rebabilitation begin at once!
48. #8 Rachid Thanks for a good laugh.
Terry ,   Eilat, Israel   (06.22.07)
You deserve the talk-back award of the year, believe me.
49. MK NISSIM. What a sorry looking schlemiel !
RCA ,   USA   (06.22.07)
When God was giving out 'brains', Nissim thought HE / SHE said 'trains', so he said, "no thanks I already have some" How did he get to be MK with comments like "gay rehab" ?
50.  GAY REHAB ???
RCA ,   USA   (06.22.07)
You would be more successful investing your money in something like 'pencil repair' or 'powdered water.' Gay is what and who they are. Sooooo, everybody DANCE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
51. RE: #16 Build rehab centers for English anti semites.
Bartley Kulp ,   Safed, Israel   (06.22.07)
52. What about a rehab for politicians?
Bartley Kulp ,   Safed, Israel   (06.22.07)
53. 'rehab centers' for gays
Shoked ,   Israel   (06.22.07)
No wonder he in ignorant of what is really going on, apart from f sitting in a Yeshiva and chanting text that he does or does not understand, he has no education.
54. This needs God
marilyn   (06.22.07)
The promise of the new covenant is by God to conclude with the house of Israel and the house of Judah. Unless men will allow God to 'govern' them within, they will be exploited by other men who will dominate them with arbitrary laws.And then watch as your freedoms whittle away.
55. Build rehab centers for hara-dim!
jason white ,   afula,israel   (06.22.07)
After they are cured,put them in labor camps till they pay off all the money they took from the state. shas is dangerous to the state.They supported the oslo death accords,they sit in the kadima regime's knesset and they voted for peres for president!
56. rehab centers
sas ,   israel   (06.22.07)
why for the gay???? - better yet for the haridim. they do nothng. they are parasites. they do little for the country except disagree.
57. #8 rashid - I begin to love you - believe me!
moussa ,   zimbabwean   (06.22.07)
so long not hear you and miss you too much! maybe next year you and me make hot parade for hormonsectuals by dead sea - lowest point on planet, but near profet Lot (pbuh). if egypt not accept you, please come to my place here in harare, our grand capital. i will be very merry and gay if you so decide, believe me.
58. From the Dark Ages
Raoul Schur ,   Netanya Israel   (06.22.07)
MK Ze'ev is from the Dark Ages and it is people of his ilk that are very dangerous, not those that are inherently attracted sexually to members of their own sex. Ze'ev, open up your mind and let the sun shine in.
59. to 45
Jewish Grandma ,   Jerusalem   (06.22.07)
It was their idea, I did not ask them to do it, and who told you they are not living happy lives? Every individual is different, not everyone leeds secret lives.
60. Lets put the nut-case back in his shell!
lisa ,   Israel   (06.22.07)
At the same time maybe there should be a rehab center so people like him can become less religious! Like religion is who he is, the gay community are who they are. This guy has to be kidding! I'm as straight as they come, have a husband the kids, and even I know that being gay is not a choice. It's like putting a dog in rehab to become a cat, or vice-versa! Even my family understand the reality of the situation and they're religious whilst I am not. Why doesn't he build rehabs for anyone's lifestyle he doesn't understand?! Personally I think he needs rehab for his pattern of thinking....which in itself is freightening.
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