In the US, the two political parties are massive organized machines demanding a position on a scale of issues. Informed choice can sometimes be difficult for even the best informed voters especially when the 2 parties are trying theie hardest to influence everybody. In Israel, where there are many parties, each with their own niche of issues, I think, would take extra effort on the part of American Jews to be knowledgeable and effective in making the right choices against the broad scale of Israeli parties and issues. It might be tough, but, not impossibe. Here in the US , it is either Democrat or Republican to choose. Many Jews stick with one party regardless. We still have the problem of people making the wrong choices due to blind party loyalties and party propaganda. Israel has enough gridlock, without having Jews in the US slow it down more. I think Israel would be more effective as a 2 party system.

I welcome every peacefull and non missionary in my country , be they Christians , reforms , and of course the TRUE jews

Again you let us see that your education = zero . Mexican is a citizenship , there can also be Jews amongst them . Being Jewish is NOT a citizenship .

that's probably cause there is no bathurst street in the US as there is in toronto

...obsessive negative thinking. That is the religion blatantly displayed by the author and most newspapers in Israel. Even if we assume that the diaspora Jews don't want to move to Israel and they will assimilate into the host nations of Europe and America, it is still a demographical fact that today more Jews live in Israel than in the USA and today Israel has the biggest Jewish population(due to higher percentage of young people and higher percentage of births) in the world - as it should be - if the purpose to the recreation of Israel is to make Israel the spiritual, political, military, demographical, scientific, technological, economic and cultural center of the Jews. Jews don't exist for Israel - Israel exists for Jews - Israel should be a tool for Jews not only to achieve national pride and feeling of home but also a source of enabling the Jewish individual of self fulfillment. There are more Jews in Israel than Danes in Denmark, Norwegians in Norway, Finns in Finland and Irishmen in Ireland. Even if the diaspora dies out, Israel will survive. Being Jewish and Israeli is the same - the ancient Hebrews became Israelites in Israel, later on they became Judeans or Jews and later on, they became Israelis. There is no contradiction between Israeli and Jewish as both names denote the same people. Israel is a sovereign and independent state and must consider its national interests and not let diaspora Jews limit Israeli interests. Native Italians would never accept a ludicrous situation where exile Italians in the USA and Latin America are poking their noses into national Italian affairs.

No , you are wrong . Being Jewish and Israeli is not the same thing . Untill i made Alyah , i was only Jewish , NOT Israeli . Now i'm a Jewish Israeli . And then , there are many non Jewish Israelis , more than one million have an Israeli identity card , but are'nt Jewish .

...engaging into semantics I see? The people, the tribe, the culture, the history, the language, the alphabet, the religion is the same, no matter if they live inside or outside Israel. Identity comes from inside and not from outside. Citizenship does not change ones ethnicity and Israeli is not only a citizenship but ethnicity, meaning that Israeli Arabs are only citizens, but not Israelis, in the same way as Turks in Germany are German citizens but not real Germans. Israel itself is empty and a void if the purpose to Israel is only a citizenship given to anyone seeking it. Israel is after all an ethnic nation state. I feel sorry for people that believe that the depth and width of identity is measured by a piece of legal document with a signature on it.

They share the same culture , the same language , and so you wrote . Wrong . The only thing that , lets say , a West European and a Yemenite Jew , are sharing , is for some of them religion . That's all . No same culture , language , history and so on . The same is now going on between the Israeli Jews and the Jews abroad . For most of us , we don't share much , exept for some , religion . We have't the same problems , the same life , and even not the same language . I feel very sorry for people who don't see this . Regarding identity , this is citizenship in our problem , nothing else .

Many Jews in the Diaspora have deluded themselves into thinking that their security is ensured in the "modern, Western world", as it is a world ruled by law, and current relations with Christianity (which has a lot of its own problems, these days) are very good. In fact, many Jews go even further to see that their security in the modern world is actually threatened by the existence of Israel, as it brings up the notion of dual loyalties, in addition to whatever actions Israel might take that would "embarass" them, as accurately mentioned by Prof. Dror. This is nothing that unusual, as Western leftists all feel this way about their own cultures and countries, and Jews have always had a very large percentage of naive, guilt-ridden leftists. This is not a bad thing, just one of the ill side-effects of an, otherwise, exceedingly effective use of guilt in a culture that has contributed so much to the development of the modern world. So, we all know that guilt is a Jewish mainstay, and the existence of Israel generates a lot of guilt for many Jews, in Israel as well as in the Diaspora. Not for any real reason, but just because that's how they are, like kids who can't control their fears and can't sleep after seeing horror movies. To these folks, they would feel "free" without Israel around to have to defend, etc. They are, of course, as incorrect as possible, mistaking the security provided to all Jews just from the existence of the State of Israel as "naturally occuring", but that is just the situation for a percentage of Jews in the Diaspora (and in Israel!) and cannot be changed in any significant way. It's a personality thing. Many Jews (the sane ones) are very proud of the fact that Israel has been such an impressive state through its rough existence. The ingenuity, productivity, creativity, ... that have come out of Israel have far exceeded anything anyone would have dreamt up. Israel has been a truly impressive state, on its own, which is why it has been so disconcerting to see it steadily moving towards a possible collapse. Very, very sad.

International Law defines an ethnic group of people as a group of people with: Common language Common religion Common history Common culture Common territory/state Common flag. Jews/Israelis share all these features. Most Scotsmen, Welsh and Irishmen have forgotten their native tongues and most of them speak only English, and yet, they make a difference between each other and Englishmen. The language of the Jewish people is Hebrew and it was kept alive for 4000 years, but due to the Exile, Jews in exile forgot their tongue - it does not mean that the tongue disappeared or ceased to be the language of the Jewish people. Yemenite Jews are Jews like you and me. Israeli is not a citizenship - it is an ethnicity, as the Israeliness is about Jewishness and nothing else. Israel is after all a Jewish state in ethnic and religious terms. Remember: the ancient Hebrews became Israelites in Israel, and later on they became Judeans or Jews, and then, Israelis. Israel is an ethnic nation state just like the European states. Israel is not an equivalence to the USA. It seems that you do not intend to resurrect the Jewish nation - instead you seem to be engaged in childish like semantics about "differences" between Israelis and Jews - it is a perfect recipe for division. Problems don't change ethnicity or identity. Are you telling me that when the problems disappear, the identity changes? You are saying basically, even though you don't understand it yourself, is that identity is not inherent but is rather based on the surroundings. But how can territory and geography and legal papers change who you are? The Arabs of Israel don't define themselves as Israelis - remember that. And Turks are as "German" as Arabs are "Israeli", but if that is true, than there is no difference between Germans and Turks. But the differences do exist and they have two separate nations bearing their names. Jews inside and outside Israel share the same ethnicity, religion, history, culture, language, traditions and customs. Come on Charles, your argument doesn't hold water.

..the American Jews think of themselves basically as a religion and nothing else, and I have to tell you that I am very glad indeed that the Americans Jews are getting assimilated, as the ethnic Israeli identity will get resurrected and come back to its true roots and origins. Most American Jews are ethnic Jews, but they are basically messengers that forgot the message - they forgot that the underlying purpose of the Jewish faith is the land of Israel and the Jewish people. Yemenite Jews and Western Jews are Jews, with the same religion and the same culture. You might say that there are differences. For sure, but there are regional differences in most European states - why not accusing them of having "false national identities"? Yemenite Jews and Western Jews share a Jewish history, although they lived scattered across the globe. Charles, you are contradicting yourself: "Israeli is only a citizenship". Later on you said that Jews in Israel and the USA don't share the same problems and that makes them "different". You are saying that when you have "problems" you become Jewish, and your problems end, you become Israeli - right? You also said that there are "cultural" differences between Jews in Israel and Jews in the USA. I thought you said that "Israeliness" was only a citizenship? Tell me something: why is Israel a Hebrew name connected to Jews and not Arabs? What is the purpose of calling Israel "Israel" if "Israeliness" is only about citizenship? Than there is no reason for using a specific name for a specific tribe, ethnicity, culture or religion, if "Israeliness" is only about granting citizenship to anyone?

"Developing a coherent policy concerning Israelis living abroad, which serve as an important link between Israel and the Diaspora"... Yes, I agree especially because Israelis living abroad (for example in Budapest) don't really socialize with local Jews. They live in their closed "Israeli" comunity, rarely invite Hungarian-Jews to their homes etc. Israelis make it clear to non-Israelis that Diaspora-Jews are "somehow related" to Israel but they are "different", not the same people. At Yom HaAtzmaut Israelis celebrate amoung themselves. The only exception is the Israel Solidarity Day organized by the Jewish Agency (but spontaneous contacts between Israelis and local Jews at such occasions are rare).

Yes , Israeli is a citizenship . You have all kinds of Israelis , Jews , Arabs , Druze and maybe others . Regarding the same culture , a Western European Jew's culture is closer to his non Jewish neighbours than to , again let's say , a Yemenite Jew . Having lived in Europe , i know exactly about what i'm talking . Do the Yemenite Jews read Proust , Romain Rolland , St Exupery ? Do west European Jews read the writings of Shabazi ? Maybe they don't even know those names . We do NOT share the same history [ only this of 2000 years ago ] We do not speak the same language at all . So for me , Israeli and Jewish is very different , and your arguments can't change it because they are wrong .

There are less than 2 million Jews left in Europe and there are less than 500 Jews left in Yemen. Most Jews live either in Israel or the US. There are approximately 5,4-5,6 million Jews in Israel and maybe 5,2-5,4 million Jews in the USA. Maybe today's Jews of the diaspora share "only" the religion. This is not the case in Israel. In Israel, there is an Israeli people speaking Hebrew, celebrating Jewish/Israeli traditions, sharing Jewish/Israeli culture and sharing a Jewish/Israeli history. The surrounding were obviously different in Yemen and Germany, but nonetheless, they are Jews. Irishmen in the USA are still Irishmen, despite the difference between Ireland and the USA. Proust was a French Jew and an author, and Jews in the Arab world had their authors and read different authors due to the surroundings. And? All native Israelis don't read the same authors, nor do all British people read the exact same authors. What's your point? Does it change the fact that they have a Jewish culture, religion and history? Most Europeans don't read anymore - does it mean that they have a different identity from the past? Wrong, in Israel you have Israelis(Jews), Arabs and Druze. Arabs and Druze are not Israelis - they are Israeli citizens, whereas we Jews are ethnic Israelis/ethnic Jews. Israeli is derived from "Israelite" which is clearly a Hebrew or a Jew. Repeating your arguments without facts and proof will not make you right. Arabs in Israel don't consider themselves to be Arabs.

The last sentence should be: "Arabs in Israel don't consider themselves to be Israelis." I will have to repeat myself: I couldn't care less about your "opinion" as your "opinion" has nothing to do with reality. Jews in diaspora of today don't speak Hebrew - true, therefore, they do not speak the same language today, also true. But you seem to forget one thing: Hebrew WAS spoken by Jews in the Arab world and Europe for centuries and the Hebrew alphabet was used by Jiddish speakers in Europe. The Scotsmen, the Irishmen and the Welsh have all forgotten their native tongues, but they are still Scotsmen, Irishmen and Welsh. And why is Israel a Hebrew name connected to the Jewish people and not to Arabs? Obviously there is a connection between Israel and Jews. Israel after all, is a Jewish state. In that way we have defined Israel's ethnic and religious character - right? And what is the purpose of calling Israel "Israel" when the name clearly relates to a specific ethnicity, tribe and culture, if "Israeliness" is only about citizenship? You cannot be an "Israeli patriot" if you claim to represent Israelis, Arabs and Druze, because patriotism in the ethnic sense is meaningless if the nation is not a nation state. I hope you realize Charles that you have not proven one single argument once and your statements are axioms. Where are you from anyway?

As a good Jew , i will answer you with a question , where are you from ?. Hebrew spoken abroad ? in Europe ? It was considered "Lashon Kodesh" , even here , in the beginning of last century it was a scandal that girls began to learn Hebrew in Jerusalem [ From a 100 % sure source ] In every country Jews mostly spoke and speak the local language , and yiddish for the Ashkenazim , not Hebrew . So you are wrong , intentionally or not What do i have in common with a US Jew ? Those i know , religious and seculars , don't speak Hebrew , only American , and Yddish for the older . Do we have the same food ? do we listen to the same music [ not the classic , the others ] do we read the same litterature ? Nothing common exept that we are Jews , I Israeli , they US citizens . When we talk about Israelis , we think at the citizens , all of them , not only the Jewish ones . Why can an Arab Israeli no show patriotism in certain occasions ? i was patriot in my birth country too on some occasions . So for me all Jews can't be Israelis , only those who have the citizenship . When Jewish students from abroad come here to study for one year , they are'nt Israelis either , they have their citizenship . Israel was created to be a country for Jews . But there are other people living here , they too are Israelis . When they travel abroad , don't they have an Israeli pasport ? Before making Alyah , i was here maybe 20 times , always with my European pasport , not an Israeli one . Proust was not alone to be Jewish , there are many more , to begin with Bergson , Kafka , Ferber , Tuwim , Emma Lazarus , Heine , Montaigne and many , many more . My mother tongue is not English that comes only in third place , place shared with Hebrew

It's very easy to say "YOUdiaspora-Jews don't have the same experiences and life what we have in Israel" so you are "stangers"... In reality diaspora-Jews are seen by goyim as "Israelis in heart". Jews are thoguht to be loyal to Israel and not to the home country. As I see, we are considered to be strangers in our home countries but alos in the eyes of Israelis. This is very sad! We are attacked by anti-Semites beacuse of Israel... and the answer coming from secualar Israelis: "You are outsiders!". Thank you!

People are people, and should get along these days, especially if they have some form of Judaism in common. In the long run, these Israelis that you are talking about are not cultivating good relations with the surrounding society. This is not good for Jewry as a whole.

Are you the same as Gabriel , also in Budapest ? Listen , i have lived for most of my life abroad , in western Europe . In my town most Jews spoke Hebrew because they went to Jewish schools , so they could have good relations with Israelis . Here in Israel i also prefer relations with people who originate of my birth country or at least speak my mother tongue . Regarding how non Jews see us . I had many non Jews as friends , was not seen as someone with a Israeli heart . And they were very surprised when i told them that i'm going to make Alyah , they knew that i made many visits to Israel . It all depends on how you present yourself to your environnement

A good Jew as you are, you didn't answer where you are from. Second, you didn't answer my statement regarding analogies about gentiles reading different authors. What author you read does not determine your ethnicity. A Japanese guy reading Proust doesn't exactly become a full fledged Jew does he? We don't eat the same food? Charles, you really amaze me. So, if a Jew eats sushi in the morning and then decides to eat Italian in the evening, he was Japanese in the morning and Italian in the morning? So food decides who you are? Maybe it is food that has an identity and not people?Israel was created for Jews - correct, and therefore Israel is connected to Jews. Israel without its Jewishness is meaningless, empty and pointless because Israel is about Jewishness and nothing else. If you want to be "politically correct" , both Germans and Turks with German citizenship are Germans, but when you want to be more specific and refer to real Germans you apply the term "ethnic Germans". According to "political correctness", which I am no big fan of by the way, all citizens of Israel are "Israelis", but if you want to be more specific, you refer to ethnic Israelis, meaning ethnic Jews like you and me. Jews in the diaspora are as Israeli as Israelis/Jews in Israel, because it is the same tribe and ethnicity. Most of the native Israelis have parents or grandparents from the diaspora, and their ethnicity did not change when they finally got Israeli passports. Chinese people are Chinese no matter if they live in China or in Taiwan, or refer to themselves as Taiwanese, or Chinese living in France, Germany, UK or the USA. It is very strange indeed Charles that most ethnic groups have names that resemble their states and those names are carried with them, inside and outside their native soil, but when Jews/Israelis live inside or outside Israel, they are suddenly given two different names. The biblical kingdom of Israel was divided after King Salomon's death, and the 12 tribes of Israel were divided into two kingdoms, 10 tribes of the northern kingdom of Israel and 2 tribes of the southern kingdom of Judah. They were all Israelites, but the Israelites in the southern kingdom now called themselves "Judeans". It is the exact same thing today - no difference. A bottle of Budweiser is still Budweiser even if you tear of the label and stick a "Coca Cola" label to it. Contents, not names, determine the identity. The Jewish people is a people or ethnicity/tribe, but the struggle over the Jewish identity today is whether a Jew is an ethnicity or nationality, or if Jews will only be reduced to a religious sect. American Jews are ethnic Jews, most of them, but most of them think of themselves as a religion or religious sect, despite the fact that they celebrate the same traditions as we do- Rosh Hashana, Yom Kippur, Chanucka, Tubishvat, Purim, Pesach, Sukkot and so on. And all of those holidays are connected to the three pillars of Jewish identity that set us apart from the rest of the world: 1.) The people 2.) The country 3.) The Law - the Torah. Religions don't need countries, nationalities, languages, alphabets, cultures or common history. The Maccabees were both religious and ardent nationalists. It seems Charles that you are confused, and you are not the first and last Jew. The day I was born, I was Israeli by blood, as I am a descendant to the Jewish/Hebrew/Israelite generations of the past.

So Charles, for me, all Jews are Israelis and all Israelis are Jews, because it is the same tribe or ethnicity. Most Scotsmen, Irishmen and Welshmen have forgotten their native tongues but they are Scotsmen, Irishmen and Welshmen nonetheless and they do not share the same mother tongue as their past generations. Excuse me? Jews of the diaspora didn't speak Hebrew? Not all of them, but a lot of them, according to "A History of the Jews written by Solomon Grayzel. And many local Jewish congregations in Europe and the Arab world of the Middle Ages wrote letters to each other in Hebrew. Jiddish speakers used the Hebrew alphabet for centuries. No Jiddish is not Hebrew - it is a mixture of Hebrew and German. And yes, Arabs of Israel can be patriots, but they are not, and I repeat myself: Arabs of Israel don't consider themselves to be Israelis. During the Balkan Wars in the 1990s, Serbs throughout many western European states got new passports and citizenships, but in their heart, they were still Serbians.

When i said that , for example Yemenite Jews , don't read the same authors as West european Jews , it's to say that they have'nt the same culture , they have different one . They eat different , they are looking different , they speak hebrew in a different way . West European Jews share more with their non Jewish neighbours than with them . A lot of Jews speak Hebrew ? Yiddish a mixture of Hebrew and German ? wrong , it''s old German ,with some Hebrew words , in Poland they used some Polish words , in Russia Russian , and in the USA , English words . If for you all Jews are Israelis , it's the same as if you pretend that 1+1= 5 , it's wrong . The same tribe I lived in the diaspora , i met American Jews , i told it already , they rarely speak Hebrew . Only Jews who had a full time Jewish education , not religious but a general , speak Hebrew . But how much have such an education ? Look at the American Jews . Do they all have a complete Jewish education , from kindergarten untill age 18 ? Not at all . Do the West European Jews speak Hebrew ? Some yes , but they are a minority . Arabs of Israel don't consider themselve Israelis , what are they then ? wich pasport do they use when travelling ? They are Israelis , in the same way as you and i are . Now if you think that all Jews are Israelis , go and ask them . You will see that you are wrong . And that's it .

Yemenite Jews do not constitute a majority among the Jews. Second, only 500 of them are left in Yemen and the "Yemenite" Jews in Israel today, speak Hebrew, celebrate Jewish traditions just like the rest of us, they have a Jewish religion. Most European nation states are heterogenous to the extreme. The English consist of both Angles, Saxons, Normands, Vikings, East Europeans, Jews and Mediterranean peoples, that very much remind about Jews. France consists both of Scandinavian/Viking/Normand tribes in the north, Franks and Mediterranean people and all look very different they have different local customs and traditions, but all within the context of the French culture. In Italy, you can find both fair haired people in the north due to the migration of Germanic tribes in the north, and very dark Italians in the south, due to the migration of Arabs and Mores centuries ago whereas most Italian belong to the Latin tribes. Yet, everything within the context of an Italian culture and most "Italians" did not speak the same language or the same dialect for centuries. Germans are extremely heterogenous. It is a myth that all Germans are blond. Swedes consist both of the original Vikings but also Germans, Poles, Russians and people from Benelux - Vallons. Russians consist of both white Slav tribes and Asian tribes. They look very different and the Russians did not think of themselves as such until well into the 1500 - or 1600s and the "Russian" identity was based on the centralization efforts of the Russian Tzar in Moscow. Today, Russians consider themselves to be Russians and noone questions it. Chinese people consist of about 50 or 60 different ethnic groups, the Han-People being the most prominent and dominant among them and the Chinese speak so many and various dialects that they can hardly understand eachother. Yet the world thinks of the Chinese as a nation or a people. The Belgians consist of both Flemish speakers in the north and French speakers in the south, and there is no "Belgian" identity, it was created in the 1800s. The Swiss speak French, German and Italian and they are a mixture of all of them. Yet people think of them as a nation. Most Arabs of today or not Arabs because the blood of the original Arabians that conquered the Middle East was deluted through intermarriage with the non-Arab majority and very few Arabs among nobles and commoners could boast about pure Arabian blood. Saladin the great was Kurdish, the Mores that invaded Spain were Berbers - not Arabs. Most of the traders, physicians and mathematicians of the Arab world were Jews, most of the foot soldiers were either Turks, Kurds or Iranians, most of the "Arab" kings and princes were either Kurdish, Turkish or Iranian and they were very seldom Arabs, and Arab architecture is based on Greek and Roman architecture, "Arab" numerals or actually Indian, chess is not Arab but Persian and derived from "Shah" which is the Farsi word for "king". The Indians speak hundreds of languages and they have hundreds of religions and the Indo-European Indians of the north have much paler skin and the original dwellers of India, the Dravidians in the south, have black skin. Noone tells the Indians that they are not a nation and it is very unlikely that today's Indians can trace their heritage to the civilization of the Indus Valley approximately 2250 B.C.E. The list is endless. Despite the fact that most nations/tribes and ethnicites are mixed and heterogenous to lesser or greater extent, they are still nations. Charles, you fail to see the forest becaue of all the trees. Minor differences can exist even in the same nation, but it is still a nation.

Most Arabs don't consider themselvs to be Israelis - go and ask them. The difference is that diaspora Jews don't understand that Jews of Israel and Jews outside Israel are one nation, a nation that has been exiled for 2000 years, and they originate from Eretz Yisrael. Lack of knowledge or lack of understanding does not change your ethnicity or history. Jews of Europe look mostly like the Mediterranean peoples and but have difficulties to blend in among Scandinavians, north Europeans, Germans, central Europeans and East Europeans. Jiddish does not have "some" Hebrew words but a lot of Hebrew words and Jews even used the Hebrew alphabet to write in Jiddish - for centuries. American Jews rarely speak Hebrew. True. Most Scotsmen, Irishmen and Welshmen rarely speak their native Gaelic tongues. Your argument doesn't hold water. A language can be lost and refound - remember that. Arabs don't consider themselves as Israelis - go and ask them. No, they are not Israelis. I am Israeli, they are Arabs - two fundamentally different nations, tribes, cultures and ethnicities. What Arabs are? They are Arabs. What are Israelis? They are Israelis. What are Italians? They are Italians. If a Polish guy learns how to speak Chinese, does he become a Chinese? If a German guy learns how to speak Russian, does he become a Russian?

on Diaspora Jews". That is one that should definitely ring a bell in Israel. How common and familiar has this become to non-Orthodox Jews, emmanating from Israel ?

What I see... Those Israelis who made aliyah recently, come back to live in Europe and they think to be "very important". I think they have some frustrations because they are not "sabreh" in Israeli and so they want to live out their "superiority" amoung Diaspora-Jews. It's not a question of Hebrew! Even in Budapest the majority of Jews are willing to learn the language (like myself in Sochnut). We have many Israeli students here and they live in their own 'ghettos', very rarely socializing with local Jews (and not because of the lack of Hebrew). They say "You are Jews, we are Israelis who happened to be born as Jews but you are not the same people as we are because you didn't have the same life experiences, threats etc... ". This is very tragic because there are many Jews in Hungary who are Zionists for whom the destiny of Israel is a number one issue. Israel needs new olim but also Diaspora Jews in order to survive the anti-Israeli propaganda generated by Muslims and old-fashioned Nazis. Diaspora Jews at the other hand need a strong Israel and not a "Meretz or Kadima-style" week middle-eastern state which wouldn't be Jewish anymore. Giving up Jerusalem is an attack against all the Jews (in and outside of Israel)!

I completely agree with you... but please don't foget: NOT ALL Diaspora Jews are unaware of the fact that we "Jews in Israel" and "Jews outside of Israel" - WE ARE ONE PEOPLE! The majority of Hungarian Jews have a double identity: according to some studies they feel themselves as members of both nations but in a different way. While Hungary is their homeland and they do their best for this country, they like their Jewish roots and support Israel. They know that they are members of the Jewish people and continue to look at Israel as a mother country. Jews will never be completely assimilated into European socities because their loyalty to the home country is always a big question for gentiles. Despite of anti-Semitic danger, many local Jews do what they can in order to help Israel to create a better image of the Jewish state abroad. This is sometimes dangerous but who cares... I must say there are many people who feel offended and sad by reading about this kind of alienation of secular Israelis from Diaspora Jewry. It's a tragic development and a danger for both Diaspora and Israel.

Who are those Jews attacked by Israeli non Orthodox Jews ? Are they true Jews , or are it those who don't know that writing is not allowed Shabbat ?

Before making Alyah in 2001 , i had already made around 20 visits here . I can say that i was a Zionist , not only in words but also in the only true Zionist deed , Alyah . What kind of people are those who made alyah recently and came back to live in Europe ? A short stay in Israel , and they think "there very important" ? While living in Europe i was also very connected to Israel , listened as much as possible to "Reshet beth" or other Israeli short wave stations . Well also while living in Europe i felt that i was different from the Israelis , with reason , I had'nt the same life as them , the same experiences . The Israelis are right by saying it also . I don't know where you were in June 67 , the six days war . I was still abroad and at work we were listening to the local news , different stations in different rooms . We were also living this war , from faraway , not on stage . We were fearing the first days , here they were fearing much more . We had our eyes full of tears when we heard Rav Goren blowing the Shofar at the Kotel , But still , we were not Here , we were'nt Israelis , only Jews . Yes , you need Israel , we need your support , but we are different . Regarding politics . While abroad i always supported the Israeli government , from Ben Gurion , to Begin , Shamir and Rabin . The Israeli people elected them , and i had'nt the right to interfere . They , here , know better as everyone , what is possible to obtain , and i assure you , they all wanted and want to have the best possible for Israel . This even you or i dislike it .

If you say that European Jews look as the mediterranean , or that Yddish as much Hebrew words , i'm sorry to tell you that you don't know about what you are talking . I'm speaking Yiddish , i know how European Jews look like . So i'll better not waste my time with you , i prefer people who know what they say . PS while living abroad , i , as all the other Jews there , was NOT Israeli , only a Jew , citizen of an European country , not Israel .